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Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 12:27:58 AM   
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This video really lays it out just how fucking dumb people "REALLY" are in america.


In 1985, ex-KGB agent, Alexandrovich Bezmenov explained the tactics of "ideological subversion," the job of slowly changing the perception of a target group, in four stages.

Alexandrovich said that all four stages would happen in the US if "the schmucks" were allowed to destabilize the economy, to do away with free-market competition and to install a "Big Brother" government.

The first and most lengthy stage of Demoralization takes the longest, at 15-20 years. The result is that the people's exposure to true information no longer has any influence on them. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information and becomes ripe for the subsequent stages of Destabilization, Crisis and Normalization.

He says, "Your Leftists in the US; all these professors and beautiful civil rights defenders -- they are instrumental in the subversion -- only until the destabilization is completed." Then, "they're not needed anymore".

In 1985, he described the demoralization process in America as "basically completed, already."

So in what stage is the US, 25 years later? Hint: Politicians calling for the execution of Julian Assange.

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http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/816.html



so on a scale of 1 to 10 whats your idiot level.

You see this on the boards all the time.  People promoting precisely what this guy is talking about.  

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 12:36:49 AM   
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Proof was needed? 

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 10:19:28 AM   
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You're an American.....need I say more?

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 10:23:12 AM   
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RO - I seen that a while ago.

There is a 4 generation cycle.  An 80 year cycle.   While the vid is interesting and plausible- the nitty gritty is the cycle of the generations.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 10:59:07 AM   
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RO - I seen that a while ago.

There is a 4 generation cycle.  An 80 year cycle.   While the vid is interesting and plausible- the nitty gritty is the cycle of the generations.

I am thinking to use your words, the nitty gritty is the long term educational propaganda (brainwashing) he speaks of and quite correctly and the slow, gradual establishing one or changing the definition of specific words and ideas in school and the media that has society at large begin to believe them.

There is a continuing media barage of economic terms used to keep us misinformed. A few are "everbody is getting richer" another is
"rising productivity raises standards of living" pattenly a lie. The big one is that there is something called a free market (only for the industrious and over worked) and that capitalism or economy in general...serves society. It most certainly does not.

Otherwise ALL govts. continue to add to the inventory of secrets they all keep from their own people. This is reflected in the recent WikiLeaks in that most of what we read id diplomatic dirty laundry. These educated former KGB know of what they speak as the communists in the old SU and now in China and N. Korea depend upon their own meaning of words and otherwise must maintain complete secrecy in govt.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 11:25:53 AM   
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Realone, if that is true then maybe we need to start shootin' a bunch of people.
I think a Guillotine should be erected on the front lawn of the Capital building just to remind them who they're working "for."
And keep the blade razor sharp and shiney.


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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 12:27:01 PM   
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Realone, if that is true then maybe we need to start shootin' a bunch of people.
I think a Guillotine should be erected on the front lawn of the Capital building just to remind them who they're working "for."
And keep the blade razor sharp and shiney.



LOL.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 12:47:18 PM   
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Actually, the human race is a race of idiots. What other species is hell bent on destroying its habitat?

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 12:48:57 PM   
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Realone, if that is true then maybe we need to start shootin' a bunch of people.
I think a Guillotine should be erected on the front lawn of the Capital building just to remind them who they're working "for."
And keep the blade razor sharp and shiney.


Unfortunately, pops, they seem to think we work for them and have for about 30 years more or less.

Any ideas? I had hopes when the Tea Party forst emerged but they just got coopted by the RNC so that went to hell in a handbasket.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 2:48:49 PM   
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Actually, the human race is a race of idiots. What other species is hell bent on destroying its habitat?


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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/18/2010 4:21:06 PM   
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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/19/2010 12:54:22 AM   
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The interview was conducted 1985. Perhaps today Alexandrovich Bezmenov would say something different.  Today "Marksist" liberal professors are largely irrelevant. American population demoralization has quite different character. People are fed (and kept occupied with) basically 'pink noise" that feels good but contains almost no useful information. Also, people are isolated and most have no clear ideology or true understanding what is happening. The governments skilfully exploit the fear factor. There is no distinct class structure.  Propaganda almost totally ignores the poor, does not clearly define the rich and pretends the government focuses on the  "middle class".
Corporations and the government have fused together and the government serves the elites. There is no clear evidence the current crisis was purposefully engineered. It will certainly not go to waste. Corporate police state will strengthen gradually (normalization). The Internet poses serious threat to the system and in near future we should  expect strong moves to restrict and filter  the information.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/19/2010 4:04:06 AM   
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I am proud of where I come from.I am from Rochester,NY.Rochester played a major role in the underground railroad.Since Rochester is so close to Canada,Rochesterian's helped slaves get to Canada.Frederick Douglass lived in Rochester when he was writing the "North Star" newspaper,which advocated the end of slavery.Susan Anthony lived in Rochester.She played a major role in Womens Right's.Even today,Rochester is a very tolerant city.The Northeastern United State's in general is probaly the most progressive area in America.I am proud to call myself a Yankee.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/19/2010 7:54:10 AM   
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The interview was conducted 1985. Perhaps today Alexandrovich Bezmenov would say something different.  Today "Marksist" liberal professors are largely irrelevant. American population demoralization has quite different character. People are fed (and kept occupied with) basically 'pink noise" that feels good but contains almost no useful information. Also, people are isolated and most have no clear ideology or true understanding what is happening. The governments skilfully exploit the fear factor. There is no distinct class structure.  Propaganda almost totally ignores the poor, does not clearly define the rich and pretends the government focuses on the  "middle class".
Corporations and the government have fused together and the government serves the elites. There is no clear evidence the current crisis was purposefully engineered. It will certainly not go to waste. Corporate police state will strengthen gradually (normalization). The Internet poses serious threat to the system and in near future we should  expect strong moves to restrict and filter  the information.




the internet aspect is a monster and people are already making private recordings of legal, historical and research conferences and they get passed around in a matter of hours.   Its truly amazing what the research has uncovered. 

One of the best I have seen is that when a slave is set free and the iron shackles taken off they were required to swear an oath of allegiance to the lord.

Oh and the meaniong of "Sovereign", "King", "State", all synonymous and joined at the hip btw!

So Iron is replaced by the pen paper and oath.   I have to hand it to the brit/crown/ ptb et al....that was fucking ingenious the way they were able to reduce the whip masters to a few police eating donuts and sipping coffee in their penal colonies and how well the "free range" doctrine has paid off for them!

but now what?  Now what will they do that everyone knows?  LOL

sort of casts a whole new light on the question why dont they ever listen to us, or how can they do something so stoopid.






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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/19/2010 12:00:47 PM   
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I am proud of where I come from.I am from Rochester,NY.Rochester played a major role in the underground railroad.Since Rochester is so close to Canada,Rochesterian's helped slaves get to Canada.Frederick Douglass lived in Rochester when he was writing the "North Star" newspaper,which advocated the end of slavery.Susan Anthony lived in Rochester.She played a major role in Womens Right's.Even today,Rochester is a very tolerant city.The Northeastern United State's in general is probaly the most progressive area in America.I am proud to call myself a Yankee.

My aunt's husband's family had a guest house that had a couple hidden rooms and a hidden staircase for hiding slaves who had escaped. It was a regular stop on the underground railroad. Was on Titus Ave, I think.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/19/2010 4:39:31 PM   
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Oh, I thought it was going to be about electing Obama.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/20/2010 6:47:08 AM   
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Very interesting link RO... thanks for that.

"It is perfectly possible for a man to be out of prison, and yet not free - to be under no physical constraint and yet to be a psychological captive, compelled to think, feel and act as the representatives of the national state, or of some private interest within the nation, wants him to think, feel and act.
"The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective." Aldous Huxley, 1958

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/20/2010 6:59:08 AM   
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Yes Hippiekinkster,there were many house's like that in Rochester.Secret room,secret stair's,so that that slave's could be hidden if they had too.There's so much history in Rochester that had such an effect on American history.

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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/20/2010 7:11:38 AM   
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Proof Americans are Idiots....like that's a newsflash...lol. All countries have their village idiots.

Subjective of course



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RE: Proof Americans are Idiots! - 12/20/2010 7:36:21 AM   
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That's true,America has it's more progressive minded people and it has some of it's own backward's thinking people.It's not usually hard to find out which state's respresent both type's of people.

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