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If people were telepathic, would they ever stop talking? - 12/15/2010 5:14:57 AM   
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If you think about it, in practice telepathy would be bad news. 

I mean you could never hang up on people - they would always be getting through to you.  The mobile phone you can switch off.  You reply to e-mails when you want, if you want. 

Telepathy is something else.  You may not want to talk, but what about the other fellow?  Somebody wants to talk to you and they transmit a thought right to your head.  If you didn't want to be pestered by them, then how would you get them to stop?  Short of shooting them. 

You'd never be alone. 
You'd never have your own space.
You'd never be able to think uninterrupted.

You'd go mad!


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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 5:23:59 AM   
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Too true. I've often dreamed of having a superpower of telepathy, but then, after thinking about it for longer, decided it would not be a good thing. I tend to like to hear my own voice a bit, which would be interrupted too much if I was telepathic, and I'm too lazy to want to learn to control it. A lot of people's voices annoy me after a few seconds of them talking, so if I had them in my head all the time, I would indeed go mad. My favoured superpower would have to be teleportation. 

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 6:16:15 AM   
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I very much believe in telepathy but its not as you describe. To me telepathy could be thinking about someone you haven't seen for a while only to find your phone rings and its the very person you were thinking about on the other end. Telepathy may be buying that special chocolate treat for your partner only to find he has bought you the exact same treat at the same time in a different shop.
My partner is a physicist and like most scientific minds, he doesn't believe in ghosts and the like and when he met me, he didn't believe in telepathy either but there have been far too many coincidences since being with me and he now admits to believing in telepathy.
We know that certain animal species have it, so why not us?


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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 6:55:45 AM   
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If you could control it enough to make sure the person you wanted to get the message did, rather than the guy down the block, then you could control it enough not to let thoughts in.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 7:03:37 AM   
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quote:

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I very much believe in telepathy but its not as you describe. To me telepathy could be thinking about someone you haven't seen for a while only to find your phone rings and its the very person you were thinking about on the other end. Telepathy may be buying that special chocolate treat for your partner only to find he has bought you the exact same treat at the same time in a different shop.
My partner is a physicist and like most scientific minds, he doesn't believe in ghosts and the like and when he met me, he didn't believe in telepathy either but there have been far too many coincidences since being with me and he now admits to believing in telepathy.
We know that certain animal species have it, so why not us?




I'm skeptic, because we do think fleetingly about a lot of people every day, even every hour, so if the phone rings, we don't remember that we thought about 20 others as well but just that person...

Sometimes it is just knowing each other well, but I don't really rule it out but the ghost thing I have trouble with, telepathy could have a perfectly logic explanation: thoughts are electric impulses, if you are atuned to somebody it might be easier to receive them, or some people might be more sensitive like some people are more sensitive to magnetic fields...

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 10:44:11 AM   
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I'm skeptic, because we do think fleetingly about a lot of people every day, even every hour, so if the phone rings, we don't remember that we thought about 20 others as well but just that person...

Sometimes it is just knowing each other well, but I don't really rule it out but the ghost thing I have trouble with, telepathy could have a perfectly logic explanation: thoughts are electric impulses, if you are atuned to somebody it might be easier to receive them, or some people might be more sensitive like some people are more sensitive to magnetic fields...


Oh I think your absolutely right. Like you, I am not into things that go bump in the night. I believe that telepathy is perhaps a lost or dwindling primal sense and all to do with electrical impulses.

The problem with telepathy is, its like instincts and mainly gets ignored. They know that certain animal and bird species are telepathic but just like quantum physics, there are lots of unanswered questions. Can animals rely on telepathy more because their brains (as far as we know) don't ponder or question?

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/15/2010 11:30:00 AM   
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The same bird species that are telepathic are also extremely atuned to magnetism...

Maybe it was some primal instinct we had, homo sapient hunted together before they had speech and sign language might have alerted the animals more, they had to communicate in some way, maybe it got lost due to speech?

The thing is, if you lose one of your senses, usually the others make up for it, I was extremely short sighted but had super sensitive hearing, after I had laser surgery on my eyes, my eye sight was superb, then about 2 years after having it, I did a hearing test, my hearing was just slightly above normal....

It's a bit far fetched to compare it with telepathy but I could imagine that it might work along those lines? A trait that got lost because we don't need it anymore? Like some people can still move their ears...

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 4:51:36 AM   
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I'm not sure I believe in telepathy in animals. Everyone swears that their horse is telepathic but the truth is that horses sense minor muscle movements in their riders. When showmanship is taught, all the emphasis is that the horse goes where your eyes go. Because people don't realize that they don't just swing their eyes to the left, the whole body turns a little, and the horse follows your muscle movements. Drop your right shoulder just a little and the horse will assume you want to turn. And people telegraph their intentions through their body language.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 5:37:35 AM   
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I have worked with horses most of my life and I don't see any telepathy in them. Like you say, the smallest of a riders movements will translate something through to the beast. Its a wonderful feeling when your so attuned with the horse that you become as one, but thats not telepathy.
How many people have had dogs that suddenly become wrestles five minutes before one of its owners arrives home unexpectedly? My ex worked the strangest of hours and he could arrive home between 4pm and 10pm. My dog always told me a good five minutes in advance, when he was going to be home.
Like LC, I believe that telepathy could be an instinct that is created through energy. An untapped science that we will one day understand. There is so much we have yet to discover, like why can a particular man remember the telephone number of any of the 15,000 hotels listed in a large directory? The untapped human mind is an exciting science but for things such as telepathy we can only rely on theoretical studies.
If you have never had a telepathic experience, you will probably deny such a thing exists. Its a bit like a particular religion, it either is or it isn't.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 7:17:37 AM   
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quote:

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I'm not sure I believe in telepathy in animals. Everyone swears that their horse is telepathic but the truth is that horses sense minor muscle movements in their riders. When showmanship is taught, all the emphasis is that the horse goes where your eyes go. Because people don't realize that they don't just swing their eyes to the left, the whole body turns a little, and the horse follows your muscle movements. Drop your right shoulder just a little and the horse will assume you want to turn. And people telegraph their intentions through their body language.



Horses aren't telepathic, but there are birds and I think monkey's, they found out that you can separate them (I think they started discovering it on some islands where the animals were of the same species but didn't have any contact with the other animals on the other island, forgot the details as it's ages ago that I read it) they taught them something and at the same time the animals on the other island picked up that skill - without being taught, without having any contact with the other animals.

They tried to reproduce the experiments in labs and with a lot of species it seems to work, which started a theory that there is some shared link (for a better word) or a collective conscience or intelligence a species can tap into.

No matter if you believe it or not, it's a fascinating read.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 7:40:09 AM   
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There was a documentary I watched last year about a remote African tribe. The men went out to hunt and were away for days but the women (who had no mobile phones!) knew when an animal had been captured and very often, what sort of animal it was. During the documentary, the men set off and were expected to be gone for days, but several hours later an elderly woman told the younger women to get the fire going as the men would be returning within a few hours with a feast. Sure enough the men arrived back early after a successful hunt.
I have also read about the Aborigines being telepathic.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 8:26:21 AM   
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I hold it a bit with Carl Sagan "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

There are unusual things and the easiest solution always seems to be to claim magic, when there could be a perfectly scientific explanation.

As I mentioned before, our thoughts are electric impulses, they can actually be measured, brain waves and brain activity can be measured, our bodies have their own electric and magnetic fields, some doctors are now actually looking at magnetic readings of your body to see disturbed magnetic fields and use it to treat illnesses. You have people who react more to magnetic fields, that are super sensitive when it comes to electrical fields, maybe some people are super sensitive to brain waves or the brain waves of people they are attuned to? I'm no a physicist but I vaguely remember from school that radio waves can travel almost infinitive, they only get weaker in strength, maybe a thought (which is an electric impulse) works on the same principle?

We don't understand half the technology we use on a daily basis, we haven't explored the human brain sufficiently, it's still a big unchartered area. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more answers the more science evolves.

I also think intuition is some sort of instinct but nobody knows how it works, so the best we can do is just try and find answers and guessing...

It's the same with positive thinking (in another thread if we make things happen or if they happen to us) I don't believe that some "spell" can change something or turn somebody into a frog (would be nice if it could turn some frogs into Princes though), but focusing on something, visualizing the outcome can help.

It's a bit like a woman who will always attract abusive guys, she has to change something herself to break a pattern.

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RE: If people were telepathic, would they ever stop tal... - 12/16/2010 3:43:42 PM   
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If you could control it enough to make sure the person you wanted to get the message did, rather than the guy down the block, then you could control it enough not to let thoughts in.



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