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RE: since when - 12/6/2010 7:16:48 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Since women developed taste the demand for men went south with the housing market although the demand at the high end is still excellent.

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RE: since when - 12/6/2010 7:34:01 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Pretend submissives have to prove they are submissive?

Are you saying a submissive should show their submission before you will show your Dominance? How would that work?

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RE: since when - 12/6/2010 8:25:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: maturemacho22

since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Pretend submissives have to prove they are submissive?

Are you saying a submissive should show their submission before you will show your Dominance? How would that work?

Yea that's the ticket the ole chicken n egg problem... lemme know how it all works out

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RE: since when - 12/6/2010 8:26:03 PM

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Now Anniezz, he wants us all to call him Sir before he will show us he is not a wanker or worse.

OP We or most of us want to see the Dom and the vanilla side of a man.
As some have said we are not looking to be raped, beaten ( not in a good way) or dead.

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RE: since when - 12/6/2010 8:50:00 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ?
as a dominant why are you trying to demonstrate to women who are clearly pretending.. this may be the issue

has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness?

as in pick do you mean recognize? wouldnt a girl recognizing you as dominant be what your after..

who is the supply and who is the demand ?

go to any bar.. are women in demand/pursued by men trying to get laid?
or is it men who are in demand/pursued by women trying to get laid?

it may take up to a few years of research for you but i am sure you will find the answer.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 5:15:37 AM

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As to since when, the answer is clear. Women do this after meeting men who are acting like jackasses, such as the op has no doubt taught all his exes to do.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 6:12:50 AM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ?
as a dominant why are you trying to demonstrate to women who are clearly pretending.. this may be the issue

has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness?

as in pick do you mean recognize? wouldnt a girl recognizing you as dominant be what your after..

who is the supply and who is the demand ?

go to any bar.. are women in demand/pursued by men trying to get laid?
or is it men who are in demand/pursued by women trying to get laid?

it may take up to a few years of research for you but i am sure you will find the answer.

Can we keep him!!??

I am so coming to adore this one..

*smooches Van*

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 9:31:07 AM

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Anyone who hasn't figured out the relative balance - or lack thereof - in modern dating by the age of 25 should be disqualified. There are typically more available men than women in any social arena of sexual competition*, and it's been stated that we are generally the more selective sex. It's a basic principle of supply and demand that should not be difficult to grasp.
My ex says the difference between men and women on a date is women pretty much know if they're going to get laid at the end of the night, and men have to wait to find out...

*With one notable exception. Attractive, available and decently employed men in their early to mid-forties seem to benefit from a similarly disproportionate amount of interest. I like to people-watch a lot. However, the comment about getting laid on a date still seems to hold true.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 9:46:58 AM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Each is supplying something and each demanding something. Submissives choose Dominants based on their understanding of what being "Dominant" is. Dominants choose submissives based on their understanding of what being "submissive" is. They are evaluating each other, choosing each other; just as a person might choose their partner according to their understanding of the following terms:
being "feminine"
being "masculine"
being "kind"
being a "good person"
being "successful"
being "attractive"
being "sexy"
being "intelligent"
etc.

Men have not been the only choosers since cavemen clubbed women over the head and dragged them home by the hair.

P.S.- There are more kinky men than women. Those numbers don't work in Your favor.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 12:15:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: maturemacho22

since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

It's pretty simple, if you want to dominate her more than she wants to submit to you, you got to prove yourself to her or not getting any. Nobody forces you to prove anything, but then don't complain if you're left high and dry.

On the other hand, if the women are trying to beat down your door for you to dominate them, no reason to prove anything to anybody, you can just enjoy...

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 12:33:48 PM

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Oh god, the mind pictures! lol I am a nasty, naughty lady.

Like none of us who know you did not know that...grins. AND...the problem with that is...............................what exactly, you sexy femdominant, you?

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 12:46:10 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

~goes allllllllll mystical~ tis as it ever was...women are the supply and are the ones in demand for the supply is short.

Seriously...I am dominant, he is dominant, they are dominant...would you not like to be dominant too? One way to do that is to cast aside some, understandable but mistaken, notions. As long as she has not agreed to anything yet, you can be dominant and show your dominance all you want...she does not have to respond to it in any "scripted" manner. Now then, how she responds to you as a man and your displays of dominance...no matter in what manner you put them out there...should give you an INITIAL indication as to her interest in you as a dominant. Take it from there but remember....until she agrees, all she is doing is displaying, just as you are, interest AND what may be...hopefully...a natural part of herself that responds to a ...hopefully...natural and not artificial part of yourself.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 12:50:32 PM

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Ouch

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if u look for muscles only , keep searching; but if u look for a clever master to submit to, contact me ( isn't the brain a big muscle ?)

Never mind punctuation eh....

Let's sum it up, you're from Blackpool, you're 50, you don't have a picture, you joined roughly a month ago and you are already complaining, by your own description you are 5'6" and 189 lbs, you love whips and you live for obedience training and leashes, no reference, nothing to show you have experience and you complain why women want to know what they are getting into? You think putting dominant male and that you are clever on your profile is enough? You can't have very high expectations then....

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 1:24:19 PM

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Men have not been the only choosers since cavemen clubbed women over the head and dragged them home by the hair.
pam

Note: i should have said: Dominants have not been the only choosers since the time of the Stone Age, so as not to imply that only men can be Dominant. Sorry, stupid mistake.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 1:37:09 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

I hope this line from a comedian helps: (if someone knows who it was, I'd love to know to give credit)

"Women have 50 percent of the money, and 100 percent of the pussy."

I think if you chew on that for a bit, your questions may be answered without any further assistance.

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 1:39:34 PM

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This speaks to alot of the OPs ramblings:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_100186/mpage_1/key_stupid%252Cchicken%252Cdance/tm.htm#100186

(the answer would be since time immemorial)

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 5:31:26 PM

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Can we keep him!!??

I am so coming to adore this one..

*smooches Van*

awe shucks...

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RE: since when - 12/7/2010 6:59:21 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Well, this has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with how dominanting works, so take it with a grain of salt. ;)

Imagine a talking Venus Flytrap, if you would, that, unlike most Venus Flytraps, had no sticky sweetness in the center of its jaws. Imagine it then bitched and moaned because the flies weren't interested in drawing near or the ones that did looked at it suspiciously and then buzzed off. Wouldn't you find that plant a bit...silly? Maybe even pathetic in its inability to grasp the core problem? If you want to attract anything moving in life, you need to offer it something that it finds impossibly irresistable, beyond tempting, something they see as uber delicious. To a submissive of any gender, I'd wager a genuine dominant person gives off that intoxicating aroma, and they will fly happily between the waiting jaws, get stuck in the sticky-sweet and then... Clang! the jaws shut, the gates close and the hapless human fly struggles futilely and weakly against the sticky trap that holds them. And then the fun begins. :)

If you can be that, then you'll see there's no need to ask questions like the one above. If you think you are being that and there are still no flies, no cute submissives buzzing around, or they regard you with suspicion and demand proofs, it's not anybody's fault but your own. You are just not doing it right. You still haven't figured something out. You haven't got your sticky-sweet mojo a workin'.

Ok, to be fair there are some very clueless submissive men and women out there who wouldn't be able to tell shit from shinola if their noses were buried in either. They will reject rare treasure in favor of sleazy drink at a bar (or mess of pottage if you prefer. Either way, is fine with me, as they're leaving the the rare treasures for those who know how to hunt :) ) But there are also those submissive people who do have a clue or two or three, and if those experienced souls are also not drawn to your gaping jaws, you need to conclude that something else is badly awry. And be honest enough to assess what it might be. :(

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RE: since when - 12/8/2010 6:46:43 AM

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So they reject you and that means they are only pretending to be submissive? And accepting any and all Dom, Dick or Hairy makes them twue submissives?

Yup and we have to prove we're TWUE submissives, while they don't have to prove that they're TWUE Dom/mes.

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RE: since when - 12/8/2010 5:03:44 PM

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since when is Dominating an art that males must demonstrate to females who pretend to be submissive ? has male dominance become some attribute for males to be picked by females before these even prove their submisiveness? who is the supply and who is the demand ?

Uh... when I make some claim.. .whether it's being dominant or being good at poker, I fully expect other people to validate that claim before they accept it as truth. I don't have an issue with that. Why do you?

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