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Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 3:48:46 AM   
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Strip club cited for lack of coverage Anonymous Daily Item The Daily Item Sun Nov 28, 2010, 02:28 AM EST PORT TREVORTON -- The co-owners of a Snyder County strip club are facing more than 700 felony and misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to provide employees with workers' compensation insurance coverage./snip

felony?   Jail time?   Wow.
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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 8:05:27 AM   
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When youre a business owner, you become a target.

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 10:02:33 AM   
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Especially if you fail to provide employees with the requires protection against being injured on the job. Of course most people would say the targeting was a good thing since it serves to protect the employees from a bad boss.

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 4:59:24 PM   
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I thought strippers were 1099 "independent contractors" not employees.

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 5:35:22 PM   
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quote:

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I thought strippers were 1099 "independent contractors" not employees.

::: SIGH :::

There are ten questions to be answered to make the definition of an independent contractor.  Three that come to mind very quickly:

Is there a written contract providing scope of work?  Ex: Tax forms filled out for business XYZ by 11:59 PM, April 15th, 2011 -OR- Certain number of dances performed in a certain period of time.

Are all tools provided by independent contractor?  Ex: Hammer OR stripping pole

Can work be performed at contractor's discretion and at contractors' choice of location?  Ex: Carpenter chooses to build at building site. DUH!  -OR- Dances will be performed after Miss La Hoopala picks up the kids from school.  The dances will be performed at the playground at 5th and Fox, but only until Tommy is tired and wants his dinner.  Any remaining dances will be at the Church basement - in the back - while Tommy's Cub Scout Troop meets in the front.  Yeah, yeah, I know..... but Tommy's Dad is on a business trip this week.  At least he'd BETTER be on a business trip or I'll kick his ass to the curb.

I'm getting real tired of this "I'm on commision, Honey.  You know that.  Just as soon as I get paid for this big sale I've been working on, you can stop dancing for awhile and I'll pay the bills, just like you've been doing since we were married."

Yeah.... he's been saying that same thing since we met at the last stripping job I contracted for.  Probably should have gone with that Bill..... yeah he was real nice to me, too.

Well, nice chatting with you, but I've got to get this old tail to the costume supply shop.  Under the law, we have to provided our own "tools."  For me, that's my outfits.  Gay guy that runs that shop always has something nice for me.... doesn't charge much either. What's his name again?  Oh, yeah, Bob Mackie..... He says he's got some Hollywood clients "who are coming up."  Some broad named "Cher."  He told me she's looking for some independent contractors.  Maybe she could use a back-up dancer. I'll put in a bid.

Bye for now!

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 6:04:42 PM   
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Love the thread title pun, it was probably unintentional

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 6:07:03 PM   
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Lance,

I can only speak to what I know here in Florida and specifically in Orange and Seminole Counties.  I had several good friends who either managed or were DJ's at several clubs in the area.

The girls were required to pay the DJ to work.  The attitude was more of looking at it as a vendor renting booth space.  They didn't pay they didn't dance.  They were paying to work.

I would guess there is something missing here.  I would suspect that either a shit storm has been started by a girl who was injured or there are other issues and the authorities are looking for anyway they can to close the doors.


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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 6:13:28 PM   
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Y'know, pahunkboy, google IS your friend.

I had trouble believing that "Failure to provide Workmen's Compensation Insurance" was a felony either..... well, google helped me learn that "Failure to provide Workmen's Compensation Insurance" is a class C misdemeanor since it falls under "Consipancy to commit theft."  That makes sense - the employer is stealing the worker's <expected and deserved and required> payment of the insurance premium......  When such failure is intentional, kicks the charge up to a class "C" / 3rd degree Felony.

Only reason this story made the news is that it's strippers being robbed, not your general office workers. 

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/28/2010 6:16:15 PM   
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quote:

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Lance,

I can only speak to what I know here in Florida and specifically in Orange and Seminole Counties.  I had several good friends who either managed or were DJ's at several clubs in the area.

The girls were required to pay the DJ to work.  The attitude was more of looking at it as a vendor renting booth space.  They didn't pay they didn't dance.  They were paying to work.

I would guess there is something missing here.  I would suspect that either a shit storm has been started by a girl who was injured or there are other issues and the authorities are looking for anyway they can to close the doors.




That sounds akin to how hair stylist and massage therapist conduct business.  Not all but seems like a majority do.

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RE: Strip club cited for lack of coverage - 11/29/2010 5:57:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

Y'know, pahunkboy, google IS your friend.

I had trouble believing that "Failure to provide Workmen's Compensation Insurance" was a felony either..... well, google helped me learn that "Failure to provide Workmen's Compensation Insurance" is a class C misdemeanor since it falls under "Consipancy to commit theft."  That makes sense - the employer is stealing the worker's <expected and deserved and required> payment of the insurance premium......  When such failure is intentional, kicks the charge up to a class "C" / 3rd degree Felony.

Only reason this story made the news is that it's strippers being robbed, not your general office workers. 


This is not the only strip club in the valley here.  The other one that I know of seldom has any trouble.   Funny thing- we have more X stuff then they do in Harrisburg.

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