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UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners Leagu... - 11/6/2010 5:06:44 AM   
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It's all a bit embarrassing, to be honest. We thought the US had it all sewn up with their excellent 'Abu Ghraib' and 'Guantanamo' power-plays, but turns out that we in the UK know a thing or two about prisoner abuse as well...

Never, ever, believe that Britain is a spent force. We can do torture just as well as the US, and, it has to be said, when it comes to the 'Covering it up and hiding it' league, we are number one.

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Evidence of the alleged systematic and brutal mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners at a secret British military interrogation centre that is being described as "the UK's Abu Ghraib" emerged yesterday during high court proceedings brought by more than 200 former inmates.
The court was told there was evidence that detainees were starved, deprived of sleep, subjected to sensory deprivation and threatened with execution at the shadowy facilities near Basra operated by the Joint Forces Interrogation Team, or JFIT.It also received allegations that JFIT's prisoners were beaten, forced to kneel in stressful positions for up to 30 hours at a time, and that some were subjected to electric shocks. Some of the prisoners say that they were subject to sexual humiliation by women soldiers, while others allege that they were held for days in cells as small as one metre square.
Michael Fordham QC, for the former inmates, said the question needed to be asked: "Is this Britain's Abu Ghraib?"http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/06/iraq-prisoner-abuse-court


The only question remaining is this: Did Bliar know? Someone needs to be jailed for this. Preferably in the same place these poor fuckers were held.

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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 5:13:57 AM   
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Some of the prisoners say that they were subject to sexual humiliation by women soldiers


In their fucking dreams...

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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 5:17:12 AM   
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Why is it that when a woman claims sexual harassment or abuse everyone is running to her defense, but if a man do so, everyone is like, oh in their dreams, or they are fucking lucky? Do not man have just as much a right as women not to be harassed sexually and say no to sexual activities as women do. Why do people assume that a woman who has been abused sexually have been seriously damaged, while a man that suffers the same is lucky?

I wish you well.


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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 5:20:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Apologies - no offence meant. As it happens I completely agree with you, but I thought it might add a bit of flavour to a story which will no doubt be dismissed as vapid and uninteresting by the conservatives. Again, I apologise for any offence caused.

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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 7:13:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hertz

Apologies - no offence meant. As it happens I completely agree with you, but I thought it might add a bit of flavour to a story which will no doubt be dismissed as vapid and uninteresting by the conservatives. Again, I apologise for any offence caused.


Which conservatives would that be? The ones in the states? The ones in the UK?

Personally I wouldn't call it uninteresting. Unsurprising, certainly, but not uninteresting. In fact, when all the uproar came out about the US torturing prisoners, I just assumed they had learned it from you chaps.


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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 7:21:19 AM   
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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 7:28:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Which conservatives would that be? The ones in the states? The ones in the UK?


Actually, I was thinking the ones on CM. But now I can see that is unfair - there must be some conservatives here who would not just shrug and say 'serves 'em right' or 'they gave up the right to be treated well when they killed our soldiers' or some such platitude. I need to apologise again. I might need to change the title of this thread to: 'Hertz: Apologies thread'

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Personally I wouldn't call it uninteresting. Unsurprising, certainly, but not uninteresting. In fact, when all the uproar came out about the US torturing prisoners, I just assumed they had learned it from you chaps.


Hmm - it's possible you are right. I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure.

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It was strange the other week that the head of MI# decided to do a speech outlining how torture was never used by the UK government.


It's almost like he knew this was coming....

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RE: UK makes late entry to 'Torturing Iraqi Prisoners L... - 11/6/2010 7:30:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

It was strange the other week that the head of MI# decided to do a speech outlining how torture was never used by the UK government.


I could loan him my copy of In The Name of the Father, if that will help


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