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sally46 -> Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 1:41:02 PM)
I am new to this site and in reading some of the post, I am curious about some comments that toys are not used on more than one person. I can somewhat understand with insertables (although they can be washed and sterilized as is done between uses even with one sub/slave). There was a discussion where folks protested that they wouldn't use a 'training collar' or a 'ball stretcher' on another boy. This leads me to ask...do you all buy new floggers, paddles and whips for each boy/girl? I often flog my girl between the legs and I am sure she gets body juices on the flogger, but naturally my floggers are cleaned often. So, if you use your flogger on the gentiles of either the boy or girl... you reserve that flogger for that boy/girl? You folks must have a lot of money. I was at a party and the birthday boy's ass was used to the point of breaking skin. Two other Dominants used their own floggers and paddle on the boy after applying a band-aid. Still, both commented they would have their boys clean the equipment when they got home. So... is it just you feel it is 'yucky' to use washed sterilized equipment such as a ball stretcher on more than one boy? or a flogger on more than one set of gentiles?

Twoshoes -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 1:42:19 PM)
Seems yucky to me.

lizi -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 1:47:57 PM)
Yucky like sharing a toothbrush. If you'd share a toothbrush with someone then I guess it'd be ok to share toys. Some subs/bottoms bring their own toys as well which keeps the expense down for playing with that person and they know where the toys have been and if they've been cleaned. Even if someone says the toys have been cleaned...how have they been cleaned? Rinsed in water briefly or had soap used on them? Would you risk getting an incurable disease? I wouldn't.

myotherself -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 1:51:13 PM)
I'm a masochist, and often canes, floggers, paddles et al get used to the point where my skin may well be broken. While "insertables" can be sterilised, it is surely all but impossible to clean leather/suede/whatever floggers and paddles to this point? And if those materials are coated with or have absorbed someone else's body fluids, then it's likely that those fluids will be transferred to the next person who uses the toys. I've actually invested in many of my own toys, so if I'm just doing 'play' with someone, they will use my stuff and not their own. That way I can relax and have fun, rather than wondering just what is on that flogger that has just cut my ass [>:]

angelikaJ -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 2:08:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sally46 I am new to this site and in reading some of the post, I am curious about some comments that toys are not used on more than one person. I can somewhat understand with insertables (although they can be washed and sterilized as is done between uses even with one sub/slave). There was a discussion where folks protested that they wouldn't use a 'training collar' or a 'ball stretcher' on another boy. This leads me to ask...do you all buy new floggers, paddles and whips for each boy/girl? I often flog my girl between the legs and I am sure she gets body juices on the flogger, but naturally my floggers are cleaned often. So, if you use your flogger on the gentiles of either the boy or girl... you reserve that flogger for that boy/girl? You folks must have a lot of money. I was at a party and the birthday boy's ass was used to the point of breaking skin. Two other Dominants used their own floggers and paddle on the boy after applying a band-aid. Still, both commented they would have their boys clean the equipment when they got home. So... is it just you feel it is 'yucky' to use washed sterilized equipment such as a ball stretcher on more than one boy? or a flogger on more than one set of gentiles? The problem is that some viruses and other microbes have a long 'shelf life'. Hepatitis B for example. According to the CDC website it can live outside the body for 7 days. As mentioned some impact toys are hard to sterilize. You hit person A and draw blood, and 5 days later hit person B who might have a very small open area on their body that you don't notice. It isn't just a gross-out factor, but one of public health, responsibility and common decency. Edit because it posted before I finished.

faithfulfemme -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 2:15:48 PM)
When i got into this lifestyle some 10 years ago, it immediately come to me that toys could be a source of infection of many kinds. That's when i started buying my own toys. i now have a whole cabinet of them, and if i play with others, like "myotherself" stated, when i play i only use my own toys. The only time that wouldn't apply is if i'm playing with a whip thrower. i absolutely don't want a thrower to use anything their not familiar with when whipping me. Besides, the end of the whip is called a "cracker' and can be removed for replacement.

Focus50 -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 2:29:37 PM)
Well I don't indulge in the lifestyle equivalent of orgies. My toys are only used within my personal, monogamous relationships. Now if a relationship ends, I don't recycle personal toys like insertibles. She can take them with her or I'll discard them altogether. A new girl deserves new stuff just for her. Leather cuffs and play collar are in between. Such things are personal in a symbolic way but people come in all shapes and sizes. So yeah, I have "utility" sets that are always mine to use in any relationship but I'll still acquire a new set specifically tailored for the new girl. And ick, communal floggings to the point of bleeding - how gutteral.... Focus.

DomMeinCT -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 2:56:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sally46 I was at a party and the birthday boy's ass was used to the point of breaking skin. Two other Dominants used their own floggers and paddle on the boy after applying a band-aid. Still, both commented they would have their boys clean the equipment when they got home. So... is it just you feel it is 'yucky' to use washed sterilized equipment such as a ball stretcher on more than one boy? or a flogger on more than one set of gentiles? It would be difficult/impossible to sterilize a leather toy that had someone else's blood/sweat on it, so that rates a big "yucky" in my book. And damn, but that's a funny typo I bolded.

littlewonder -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 3:32:58 PM)
I really don't like having toys used on me that have been used on others whether they're insertables or not. Since I don't play casually and I'm monogamous this is not that big a deal for me. We collect toys as we go along to be used on me. For me it's about the energy and vibes from past relationships/casual partners that just irks me. My thoughts automatically go to " I wonder who else he's used on this and I wonder what their reaction was and how he viewed her/the toy". I start thinking that he'll think that because she responded in a certain way from it then he thinks I'll react in the same way or he has certain emotions towards that toy because of who he used it on in the past. In my past relationships I left him keep all the toys and I threw away all my toys even my insertables because I didn't want them used on me by someone else knowing that I would always remember how they were used on me with someone else. I want to start out with a clean slate. Call me a puritan <shrug>.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 3:46:38 PM)
~FR~ Well, as far as insertables and vibrators go, I absolutely have my own. As far as floggers and such are concerned, I'm not such a maso that they will be used on me to the point of breaking my skin so it's not a big deal to me. As for cuffs and such, again, no big deal. If I am wearing Someone's collar, though, I want it to be made/purchased for ME. Wearing a collar someone else had worn would be like, say, wearing the ex's wedding ring. Just sayin'. But, as for pussy floggers and so on, well, yeah, i'd be against having one used on me if I wasn't fluid-bonded w/ whoever else it'd been used on.... ~sweetsub~

WyldHrt -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 5:00:03 PM)
Like many of the above posters, I have my own toys, cuffs and absolutely my own insertables (sharing insertables = ick! for me). When I play casually, it is either with my floggers, crops and such, or with someone I absolutely trust as regards cleaning/ sterilizing their equipment. quote: You folks must have a lot of money. This is yet another reason that I bring my own toys. I feel that it is very unfair to expect my partner to lay out all of the money for the 'fun' stuff. In fact, since I make toys, most of my kinky friends and/or play partners wind up having their toybags added to sooner or later. [:D] ETA- Good topic, OP!

Missokyst -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 5:36:02 PM)
I own my toys. Insertables, floggers, rubber, leather, paddles, electrical, what-nots and what-have-yous are for my use. I do have others that I have used on others if they can be cleaned. But no way would I be playing to draw blood. And no weenies are getting spanked with my stuff.

WolfyMontgomery -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 6:16:55 PM)
There was a private home dungeon party that Master and I used to attend monthly a year ago - before little children (not ours -shudders-, theirs) came into the picture and they couldn't hold them any more. They had TONS of toys there for people to play with, anyone could use them. But they also had very big important rules for anyone to play with those toys. - Clean before AND AFTER playing with them, with the special disinfectant wipes that they supply and/or with soap and water, depending on the toy and your preferences. - No blood on the toys - there were no beatings to the point of breaking skin, whether they wanted it or not, because that can and did ruin the toys and they would throw them out. - Wipe the areas you're flogging/beating. If you were gonna beat the pussy make sure it's wiped... that sorta thing. Basically as a sort of damage control so it wasn't so messy. (he actually tended not to want people beating areas that made a mess anyway, but he didn't stop them, just told them to be clean about it lol) All the toys they had available for the guests were hard plastic, rubber, leather, or wood or something solid and easily cleanable. There weren't any floggers (or very few, and you had to ask to use those) - a good majority of the toys were paddles, canes, crops, that sorta thing. Master and I REALLY appreciated the guy who ran the parties and the things he supplied, because at that time (and now har har) we didn't/don't have the money to buy our own fancy canes and paddles and crops (well... we could get the crop if we were able to actually get to the flipping leather store before it closed...). At the same time though we wouldn't have used any toys that didn't seem easily cleanable, and obviously the host didn't want to use those either which is why he didn't have any available. It gave us a chance to experiment with the scene and learn things that we liked or disliked (like how I learned that i REALLY liked crops and REALLY didn't like this one paddle with ugly holes in it that was an inch thick), and it was a real learning experience without having to spend the $50 on a paddle and then discover that one or both of us hated the damn thing. But I don't share ANYTHING that's insertable. That's just icky. And I don't like the idea of sharing anything that isn't easily cleaned AND sanitized --- it needs to be sanitized, it just ain't sanitary otherwise. Narf. Those sorts of things are only shared - in my opinion - by people who are already fluid bound in some way, shape or form. And if you do beat people to the point of bleeding, hell no don't share your toys. There isn't much that one can really do to fully sanitize that unless they wanted to get those hospital quality steam sanitizers or something. Otherwise that's just not safe, no matter WHAT kind of toy you're using.

OsideGirl -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 6:49:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sally46 So, if you use your flogger on the gentiles of either the boy or girl... Are we whipping Christians again?

hausboy -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 7:28:27 PM)
In addition to what others have posted.... you seem to make an assumption here that only the Dommes/Doms/Tops have toys. In addition to their toys, I always bring my own--I have a set of paddles that are exclusively mine--if we play to point of breaking skin (which does happen on occasion), I take the time to clean them, obviously, but I know that they are used only on me Reminds of the IMsL after party years ago--one girl either forgot...or decided not to bring her own toy bag--to punish her, her Domme stood her in the corner all night with a sign on her that read "bad bottom. forgot to bring her toy bag. no scene tonight!".

WyldHrt -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 7:52:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: sally46 So, if you use your flogger on the gentiles of either the boy or girl... Are we whipping Christians again? Just.... LOL!!! [sm=mademyday.gif]

Aileen1968 -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/2/2010 8:22:58 PM)
It goes beyond the cleanliness of the item for us. It is more of the mindset that both of us didn't want anything used by another. It's the mental factor.

kiwisub12 -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/3/2010 4:07:03 AM)
I think a mental factor enters into it with most people, acknowledged or not - after all, who worries about the knives and forks at a restaurant? But they enter a body fluid cavity just as a butt plug does. They aren't sanitized - but they are run through a washer. You would have to think that soap and water would clean everything but leather to the point that viruses and bacteria are washed away, or destroyed. Similarly, most people don't like using sheets that another has slept in, but think nothing of sitting in a chair in a restaurant or airplane. And if you think about it, you could be as likely to catch something in a theater as in a bed. How often are theater and airplane seats cleaned? I don't know, but chances are sheets are changed at least monthly. Obviously i don't have too many worries about insertables being used in me that were used in another. As long as they are clean its all good. But then again, i'm an nurse, and nurses have a somewhat different perspective.

DesFIP -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/3/2010 6:26:56 AM)
As others have said, some diseases can live outside the body for several days. Tell me, how do you clean porous material such as leather so that it positively cannot carry disease? You can't. If you autoclave it, the leather is ruined. I'm not interested in getting Hep C or anything else. So toys here are new, bought for this relationship only. If this relationship ended and I started a new one, either I would bring my toys with me, or I would get new ones. Is a toy worth someone's health?

kiwisub12 -> RE: Soooooooooooooo.. new toy for each girl or boy? (11/3/2010 1:52:13 PM)
I think if you read my post you would see that i excluded leather from the cleanable items. If its not porous then i think everything else is pretty much top dishwasher safe. Porous would include canes , wood paddles, leather, cloth and anything else you can imagine. Of course, when i came to the US in the early '80's i thought Americans were germ-phobic because the straws were wrapped in paper. You can get carried away with anything - and even with cleanliness.

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