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MasterJohnSteed -> Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 5:34:21 PM)
Been doing a lot of thinking over the past two days, and one of the things that has popped up in the tossed salad of ideas is that I don't have a definition for a particular emotion I can build a computer from scratch, But yet I have never had a desire to build a computer from scratch. I see trying to build a computer from scratch as something that one would do to prove that they can do it. I see no reason to do something, I know I can do. I have no reason to prove anything to myself. What is this emotion, the feeling that I don't need to prove anything to myself. Self Satisfaction doesn't quiet seem to cover it. Oh Sure if you paid for the parts and you paid for my time I would build you a computer in a heart beat. However, If I built one I'd be buying all the parts, putting them together, testing, tinkering etc but I see no need to do that when I can go out and buy one cheaper than I can build it. Ideas, definitions?

Zevar -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 5:40:36 PM)
quote: Ideas, definitions? Confident. As in being self-assured and certain of having the ability, judgment, and resources needed to succeed. Take care!

MrKicia -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 7:42:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJohnSteed Been doing a lot of thinking over the past two days, and one of the things that has popped up in the tossed salad of ideas is that I don't have a definition for a particular emotion I can build a computer from scratch, But yet I have never had a desire to build a computer from scratch. I see trying to build a computer from scratch as something that one would do to prove that they can do it. I see no reason to do something, I know I can do. I have no reason to prove anything to myself. What is this emotion, the feeling that I don't need to prove anything to myself. Self Satisfaction doesn't quiet seem to cover it. Oh Sure if you paid for the parts and you paid for my time I would build you a computer in a heart beat. However, If I built one I'd be buying all the parts, putting them together, testing, tinkering etc but I see no need to do that when I can go out and buy one cheaper than I can build it. Ideas, definitions? Apathy? I work on cars for a living, I can build just about any transmission. Yet i cant seem to get my project car going. Can i do it? Yes no problem. But i just cant get motivated enough to get it done, or ill get part way into it and then just quit. Ive done this on quite a few projects, i get all gunghoe about them, dig in, and then just quit and lose interest. Then sell that investment for a substantial loss. Part of me just wants to get rid of all of my old project cars and drive something brand new, that doesnt need to be worked on, after all, i know I can fix cars why do i need to prove that to myself? When a customer comes in and wants this and that fixed, and has a check book in hand, hey no problem.

January -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 7:58:57 PM)
Depressed. For me, anyway.

gungadin09 -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 8:46:05 PM)
satiety inertia quiescence enlightenment transcendence nirvana pam

littlewonder -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/9/2010 9:13:35 PM)
I'm going to go with apathy and depression.

pahunkboy -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 6:21:07 AM)
Why not take a trip to Disneyland?

DesFIP -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 6:25:47 AM)
Pragmatism. Why bother doing something that's more involved than it needs be? If there's a faster, cheaper way to do it, then that's the smart way. Otherwise it's like going around the world to cross the street, sure you'll get there eventually but it's one hell of a long time later.

January -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 7:19:57 AM)
quote: Why bother doing something that's more involved than it needs be? So why make and birth your own babies--when you can adopt? :) I can't relate to building computers, but I live by the whole Homo Faber ideal. Take gardening, for a mundane example. Sure, I could hire a landscape architect, but where's the fun in that? I buy plants on sale end-of-season, I get cuttings and seeds from friends. I occasionally buy from fancy catalogues. Some plants die, some don't. I transplant, I propagate, I experiment. I make lots of mistakes. I love it. And now my garden, full of hollyhocks and roses and daylilies and phlox and irises--is mine. Every chaotic, wild inch of it. Why do it myself? Because I take joy in creation. January

DesFIP -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 11:38:36 AM)
That makes it a hobby or an avocation. Which is an entirely different kettle of fish. If you don't get any enjoyment out of rebuilding your own transmission, and you can afford to have someone else rebuild it for you, then why not do that? Why do things the hard way when doing that doesn't give you anything positive?

NorthernGent -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 11:43:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJohnSteed Been doing a lot of thinking over the past two days, and one of the things that has popped up in the tossed salad of ideas is that I don't have a definition for a particular emotion I can build a computer from scratch, But yet I have never had a desire to build a computer from scratch. I see trying to build a computer from scratch as something that one would do to prove that they can do it. I see no reason to do something, I know I can do. I have no reason to prove anything to myself. What is this emotion, the feeling that I don't need to prove anything to myself. Self Satisfaction doesn't quiet seem to cover it. Oh Sure if you paid for the parts and you paid for my time I would build you a computer in a heart beat. However, If I built one I'd be buying all the parts, putting them together, testing, tinkering etc but I see no need to do that when I can go out and buy one cheaper than I can build it. Ideas, definitions? Seems to me you don't have an interest in building a computer....can't imagine why this has anything to do with 'an emotion'.....I have no wish to grow an orange tree in my back garden....although I do like oranges....same thing ain't it?

MrKicia -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 3:50:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP That makes it a hobby or an avocation. Which is an entirely different kettle of fish. If you don't get any enjoyment out of rebuilding your own transmission, and you can afford to have someone else rebuild it for you, then why not do that? Why do things the hard way when doing that doesn't give you anything positive? The only positives would be saving money (if that is an issue) and the job being done to your personal satisfaction. As much as i dont like working on my own cars, i will continue to do so for the simple fact that i have my own way of doing it. Hell i just spent my whole sunday fixing two of my brothers cars. Because he is my brother, and i dont want to see him get taken advantage of by some fly by night. Plus i know the job was done to my standards.

January -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 4:53:40 PM)
quote: That makes it a hobby or an avocation. And your point is? Are you dismissing my gardening example as not relevant to creativity and satisfaction because it's a hobby? Why? Why does a hobby make it a "different kettle of fish"? Different than what? As long as it doesn't make money it's FLUFF? Taking pleasure in creating is the way some people live their lives. I don't get you, Des. Enjoy your leveling. January

ResidentSadist -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 9:23:24 PM)
Nerdquility: When you achieve tranquility with your technical skills and no longer feel the need to prove yourself through action.

LuneRune -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/10/2010 9:50:44 PM)
Can do but aint gonna because you can....why bother?....thinking it all all, I mean.

mischoolboy -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/11/2010 7:13:51 AM)
I don't see that as a feeling persay, you don't feel it's worth your time, so you don't do it. there are a lot of things I don't do, but I try not to overthink the why part.

MasterJohnSteed -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/11/2010 2:04:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist Nerdquility: When you achieve tranquility with your technical skills and no longer feel the need to prove yourself through action. And I Approve of this Message!!!!

DesFIP -> RE: Can you define this feeling? (10/11/2010 7:32:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: January quote: That makes it a hobby or an avocation. And your point is? Are you dismissing my gardening example as not relevant to creativity and satisfaction because it's a hobby? Why? Why does a hobby make it a "different kettle of fish"? Different than what? As long as it doesn't make money it's FLUFF? Taking pleasure in creating is the way some people live their lives. I don't get you, Des. Enjoy your leveling. January My point is that the OP doesn't get any pleasure out of building his own computer. It doesn't fulfill his creative urges. It's something he can do, that presumably other people are pushing him to do, but he has no interest in doing. So why should he do it when he is totally uninterested in spending the money and time and could buy one at Best Buy and still have all his time to do stuff he does enjoy. It's a different kettle of fish comparing things you enjoy and love to things you don't.

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