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RE: Foreclosure Evictions Stopped in 23 States - 9/23/2010 8:03:48 PM   
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Actually that is not the sure thing - that the property does not belong to the person who occupies it. This assumes, of course, that the occupant is also the mortgagor.

See, of the parties involved, the mortgagor and the mortgagee (or subsequent mortgagee if the security interest is conveyed to another, also known as the assignee), it is the mortgagor (homeowner if you prefer) that is the most easily identifiable, and the most certain. A mortgagee, in order to have the superior security interest in the subject property, must have a perfected security interest. In the case of securitized instruments this is only possible if the paperwork has all been done in accordance with the laws of the jurisdiction in which the subject property is located.

The chain of title is among the means of perfecting a security interest for a mortgagee. But in many instances the paperwork was not done properly, or sometimes at all. About now you're probably having thoughts along the lines of "Yeah, well, they borrowed money and owe SOMEBODY, so they can't just keep the house for free." True, but not quite so simply. The only entity that is actually owed any money is the entity with a perfected security interest. while money may be owed by the mortgagor to some entity if that entity cannot be identified then it is folly to make payments  to the wrong entity. Also, the only party with a right to foreclose, or repossess, is the party with the perfected security interest. It is also folly to give a homeowners property to someone that isn't entitled to it.

In securitized mortgages they typically are supposed  to be conveyed several times to several different entities (I say "supposed" because the paperwork is so defective, or completely absent, that we don't know what really DID happen - and in title to property it doesn't matter what was supposed to happen, it only matters what actually DID happen). If no single entity, as motgagee, has a perfected security interest then each of those entities can make a claim on the subject property. If the courts allow one entity with a defective security interest to lay claim to the property then why not each of them? In that case a mortgagor would end up owing the debt to several entities. So which one is entitled?

Well, when title defects like this occur properties usually revert back to the mortgagor. A smart mortgagor will file a quiet title action (google it) and if no one can step forward with a superior claim to that of the mortgagor then the mortgagor is given clear title to the property. This is as it should be. We have statutes of fraud, recording statutes, etc., precisely so that we can, and do, know WHO OWNS PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES.

Ponder on these questions for a bit. Is it ethical, proper, legal or right to take property form a homeowner and to give it to an entity who cannot demonstrate or prove a perfected security interest? Wouldn't that be "giving a free house" to someone not entitled? In the case of several parties with no interests, or defective interests, should we chop up the property and divide it equally amongst those with no clear or perfected interests? In the case of several parties with no interests, or defective interests, should we require the mortgagor to pay each of them the full amount of the alleged debt?

Some of this may become clearer for you if you give Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 17 relating to "real party in interest." It may also help to read the statute of frauds and the recording statutes in your jurisdiction. I'd also suggest a thorough read of the Uniform Commercial Code, or your states adoption of such, to understand more fully how negotiable instruments are properly negotiated.



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RE: Foreclosure Evictions Stopped in 23 States - 9/28/2010 10:15:02 PM   
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Another Washington Post article appearing in tomorrows print version, I believe on the front page and above the fold. Cha and Dennis seem to be staying on top of this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/28/AR2010092806523.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2010092807073

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RE: Foreclosure Evictions Stopped in 23 States - 9/29/2010 8:52:36 PM   
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JP Morgan now suspending foreclosures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/business/30mortgage.html?_r=1&hp

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RE: Foreclosure Evictions Stopped in 23 States - 9/29/2010 9:00:32 PM   
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Washington Post carrying the same story. Note the language in the first paragraph:

"J.P. Morgan Chase, one of the nation's leading banks, announced Wednesday that it will freeze foreclosures in about half the country because of flawed paperwork, a move that Wall Street analysts said will pressure the rest of the industry to follow suit."

Among the reasons it will pressure the rest of the industry is that the rest of the industry is doing business the same way - essentially tossing the rule of law aside. I can't stress enough that the move by GMAC last week, and JP Morgan this week, are voluntary. It is the strongest indication these folks are feeling very exposed and very threatened.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/29/AR2010092907268.html

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RE: Foreclosure Evictions Stopped in 23 States - 9/30/2010 6:11:26 PM   
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A youtube video, 8 minutes long, of Florida Congressman Alan Greyson. It speaks for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnHLDeedVg

And remember you heard it first here on Roller Derby.

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