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fine hair - 9/14/2010 2:41:19 PM

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My hair has always been very fine and straight in its natural state. So fine that an updo soon separates in the back and looks like I parted it. I used to keep it permed. Since perms are out and straight is in, I'm now looking for another way to change the texture of my hair. Does anyone have any ideas on how to change hair texture without perming?

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 2:58:45 PM

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I love being a nerd.

If something looks good, or if I like it, I don't understand the need to do what others tell me is "in".

How do YOU like your hair?

I have baby fine hair and do not like perms...as they fall flat and I get a mere slight wave (no, I do not use conditioner either, nor have I washed it before 2 days have passed). It makes my hair all brittle and dull, so I don't do it. Even though in the town I lived in...almost every blessed woman had her hair permed.

I hope someone gives you a better solution than I did, lol. I keep mine straight and in a long braid.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 3:21:01 PM

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Sir prefers straight hair. I rarely see women who aren't in their 60's with perms. I made the mistake of getting a perm about a year and a half ago and a male co-worker started teasing me about my "1980's perm." I grew my hair long thinking I'd be able to wear it in cool updo only to find out it won't stay tight enough even with hairspray to keep from parting. Does anyone know if dyeing hair makes it more coarse and less slippery?

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 3:41:42 PM

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Dyeing your hair can damage it if not done properly.

If you find the right combination of hair products you can style your hair anyway you desire.

You can add extensions in to thicken the look.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 3:43:04 PM

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When you say 'updo', do you mean pouf-y things on the crown of your head? Are you forming it in one layer, or are you making the pouf out of several smaller layers on top of each other? If you're doing it in one layer you might have better luck with several-I have thick, fairly obedient hair and I still sometimes had trouble with single-layer poufs when it was long.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 3:56:54 PM

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the right cut could help a tad. maybe use a conditioner.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:12:08 PM

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Conditioner makes it worse. I want to make the texture more coarse so hair clips will actually stay in place.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:12:55 PM

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Right now, in California, very straight hair seems to be a fairly popular style. Up-dos are not very fashionable here anymore. One thing that seems to still be done is taking a small clip or bobby pins and clipping back the top of the hair and putting it in a pony tail, or just plain pony tails.

I have very thick wavy hair that I have been told would be curly if I cut it... I have worn it long my entire life. I never pay attention to fashion, there are ways to have curly hair without looking like you stepped out of the 80s and 90s. There are fashionable ways to have long hair when short is trending... you just have to look around for the right look.

As far as hair products, When really big 1980s hair was in style, I used to use hair mouse to make mine even bigger and thicker looking. It has alcohol in it. So if you are looking for healthy hair, that is not the way to go. I would ask your stylist for styles that would become you.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:14:10 PM

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I want to make the texture more coarse so hair clips will actually stay in place.

Have you tried backcombing?

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:19:02 PM

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Using too much conditioner is not good.

I havent used any all summer. In the winter I will - and rotate it.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:22:35 PM

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Depending on the color of your hair, and what you want it to be, henna might be an option. I have fine hair, and when I use henna, it transforms it into thick, shiny, lustrous, beautiful hair. Research it before you do it, though, as there are many possible pitfalls with henna. You need to make sure its body art quality henna, or you can get serious damage. Also, bear in mind that the color is permanent, and gets progressively darker each time. If you have dark hair already, I don't suppose it matters. If you're blonde, you could end up with bright, clown-orange hair. You are somewhat limited to the colors that naturally occur with the plants used in herbal dyes, but there are also some colorless options. This is a good resource: http://www.hennaforhair.com/

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 4:29:48 PM

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get a layered cut. Layers will make your hair look fuller and thicker.

I have straight baby fine hair and I usually get layers put in mine which seems to do the trick at least enough so that it doesn't look like I don't have any hair.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 5:10:34 PM

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I'm actually thinking of dyeing it light honey brown. My dark hair looked good on me when I was young, but now it seems to make my pale skin look pasty. This is me at 17.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 5:16:56 PM

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This is more recent.

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 5:24:28 PM

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2nd attempt to post more recent pic

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RE: fine hair - 9/14/2010 8:14:12 PM

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Let the bangs grow out, this is part of what is making you look dated with the perm. If you let it grow out more, and then go and get a good cut from a good stylist.

I would also not recommend going lighter on top of a perm. My sister has really fine straight hair, and she bleached it on top of a perm and it burned it off. If you go lighter they have to strip the color out of your hair to do so.

The biggest recommendation.. let those bangs GROW.... seriously, once they grow out you will have a lot more options for an updated style

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RE: fine hair - 9/15/2010 9:42:23 AM

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I have baby fine hair that, in its natural state, is straight as a stick. It will not curl with rollers or a curling iron. I used to perm it when I was a teen but it will no longer take a perm. Instead, it turns dry and brittle and just breaks. I used to have horrible 80s hair, complete with layers and horrid bangs.

When I was in my early 20s, I stopped trying to fight with it, quit destroying it with over-processing, and grew out the layers. Now I just wear it long and straight. I don't process it in any way - no blow drying, no hairspray, and only dye it on rare occasions. I wash it, condition it, and let it air dry. The only styling I do to it is to put it up in a ponytail if I want to get it out of my face. Otherwise, I comb it over to one side so it doesn't look quite as flat (I have a natural center part) and let it go.

It's waist-length and I get frequent compliments on how healthy and shiny it is. I trim it twice a year when I get tired of sitting on it.

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RE: fine hair - 9/15/2010 11:11:35 AM

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You've got a round face so anything terribly blunt cut will only accentuate that. Unless that is the look you want....think Beth Ditto.

My hair is VERY thin and fine. Extremely so. I've always razor cut mine to give it texture and volume. I also have a roundish face unless I am very thin which (barring some horribly wasting disease) I don't see myself being again anytime soon. That is where the layers around the face help a lot.

Another thing to consider, which I do, is dye my hair one shade lighter than it's normal colour. For some reason it makes a HUGE difference.

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RE: fine hair - 9/15/2010 12:18:47 PM

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I just had to perv you again after that description. The cut you are sporting in your pics looks great on you.

I second the suggestion of henna, OP. It really works wonders for your hair. There are two brands that offer premixes of herbal colours based on henna, both have quite a nice range of options. Logona and Sante. Maybe you can get those in the US.

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RE: fine hair - 9/16/2010 4:25:36 AM

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You have a curly perm but your not conditioning? You need to get some hot oil on the ends at least. If the ends lose condition, they will split and give you that awful frizzy look.
I would suggest highlights and a good layered cut. Highlights always give your hair a thicker look, as do layers. Block colors can look good on women with thicker hair but I wouldn't recommend a block color for someone with thin or fine hair. I also would not suggest henna for thin hair. As someone else here said, henna has a tendency to darken, the color is inconsistent and dark fine thin hair looks much thinner than blond fine thin hair.
Hair builds up residue from shampoo, hairspray and silicone sprays. All of these products (as long as the shampoo isn't a stripping one) will generally help to make your hair look thicker. You can get thickening shampoos. They don't genuinly thicken your hair but they leave a residue on each hair that gives the appearance of it being thicker than what it is.
A little back comb teasing, close to the routes will also give you a 'more hair look' but be careful not to go ott on this.

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