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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 9:58:13 AM

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I love flogging... givng and receiving, with one exception.... november, nekid outside cold and windy, makes a regular thin tailed suede floggger feeel horrendous. Im not sorry I tried it but I wont be doing it again, and I wouldnt put anyone but a pain slut thru it unlesss begged

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 10:05:20 AM

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Interesting.

Well as some of you are understanding, I'm definitely not referring to trying on a submissive skin in anyway here. Or trying to duplicate a sensation you may have on anyone else. That would require some heavy cloning and DNA engineering feats.

Purely discussing the odd (to me anyway) overtones that I'm finding with D's that seem to reserve training and/or pain experiences strictly to their submissives.

When you bring someone at such a raw and exposed level as BDSM into your world, it seems strange that you wouldn't have explored your own territories before placing natives in your jungle? However, I am looking for a spectrum of viewpoints on this so.

My two cents, not necessarily yours.

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Regarding the parts above that I bolded.

Training? I think you need to be more specific. When I think of training I think of teaching someone to serve me as I wish to be served. Obviously I already know how to do it, I've been doing it for myself for quite some time. If I don't already know, how the hell am I going to 'train' someone else???

Bringing someone to a raw and exposed level. I am going to go out on a limb and assume you mean this in a mental and emotional way. I can categorically say that there is NO WAY I will ever get to the same place emotionally and mentally that a masochist/slave/submissive person can be. Zero, zip, nada, no chance. I am not a bottom, slave or submissive person.

So......to wrap it up.......there is no training I can experience that would put me in the same mental/emotional place that it would a masochist/slave/submissive person.

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 10:23:15 AM

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So totally NOT what he is asking.

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 11:20:16 AM

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So totally NOT what he is asking.

Okay there Miss SmartyPants!!!

Help me out here!

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 11:22:29 AM

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Well look at what I said!!

~Do you test your toys?
~Would you expect someone to take what you, yourself, could not?
~Are your expectations for your submissive higher than yours for yourself?

See?

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 11:32:54 AM

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Well look at what I said!!

~Do you test your toys? Yes.
~Would you expect someone to take what you, yourself, could not? Oh hell yes.
~Are your expectations for your submissive higher than yours for yourself? No.

See?

All better now?

Can ya feel how smug I am for answering all questions?

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 11:34:24 AM

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I do, I DO!!

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 12:01:40 PM

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I do the same: I test out the 'ouchie' toys on my own skin before applying, with the understanding that every person has a unique pain tolerance to different stimuli [temperature, pressure, flogging], and here's the nifty part, it can change dramatically depending on how sexually aroused a person is.
But anyone trying it out on me would be swiftly and physically rebuffed, and permanently dismissed. Even the thought makes my gorge and hand rise, and certainly why twitchy switches make ME twitch. I need a man who desires such stimuli, and doesn't whine or sulk about not being the one holding the dripping candle, handle or leash.

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 12:02:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: LastThoughts

Interesting.

Well as some of you are understanding, I'm definitely not referring to trying on a submissive skin in anyway here. Or trying to duplicate a sensation you may have on anyone else. That would require some heavy cloning and DNA engineering feats.

Purely discussing the odd (to me anyway) overtones that I'm finding with D's that seem to reserve training and/or pain experiences strictly to their submissives.

When you bring someone at such a raw and exposed level as BDSM into your world, it seems strange that you wouldn't have explored your own territories before placing natives in your jungle? However, I am looking for a spectrum of viewpoints on this so.

My two cents, not necessarily yours.

_LT

The difference of it is, the jungle is going to look much different through My eyes than it is through his.

I happen to own a masochist who also thrives on service. No matter what I do, I'm not going to process anything the same way he does. While he would zoom to space by being beaten, it would just piss Me off. I could polish My boots in the very same fashion, but it's not going to bring Me the joy that it does to him from pleasing Me. I'm not going to feel freedom in bondage. I'm not going to feel peace and contentment sitting at someone's feet.

The territories that I explore come from the top side. How far can the depths of My sadism go? How exciting do I find it to put him in a different situation or arrange a new type of role play? Does using a toy this way or that give Me a better thrill? What scenario can I come up with that make Me want to use him in the way that I have within My authority?

THAT is My playground. It's what lights Me up. It is the very thing that is My passion in topping in the first place.

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RE: Knowing the taste of our own medicine. - 9/10/2010 12:06:35 PM

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I do the same: I test out the 'ouchie' toys on my own skin before applying, with the understanding that every person has a unique pain tolerance to different stimuli [temperature, pressure, flogging], and here's the nifty part, it can change dramatically depending on how sexually aroused a person is.
But anyone trying it out on me would be swiftly and physically rebuffed, and permanently dismissed. Even the thought makes my gorge and hand rise, and certainly why twitchy switches make ME twitch. I need a man who desires such stimuli, and doesn't whine or sulk about not being the one holding the dripping candle, handle or leash.

Well that's true, and I did not want to give the idea that I was letting my SUBMISSIVE test stuff on me! While there are some things I love that I do not process as painful, that's a whole other story!

Over the years I've run across a whole cadre of chest thumpers who loooooove to dish it out and have absolutely no idea why they can't keep a submissive, or why they get bad reputations. It's because they lack FINESSE. Why do they lack finesse? Partly because they can't be bothered to gain it, partly because they genuinely have NO idea how anything feels, so figure the sub should just TAKE it. Some subs can, bless their hearts.

I would dearly love to get those guys---choose any one---to take ONE of their normal cane strokes. I think it would be very educational.

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