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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

where did I say it was luckys quote..I didnt,
the quote thing fucked up...as far as I knew I was responding to the original comment as I have ld on ignore, who needs more ugliness from that

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Could the average leftist even "get" such a memo?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Hopefully someone will send a memo to "the dog!"
They had a major conflagration in Detroit yesterday, did he have any comments?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats the highest level of discourse that crazy old wino is capable of, jeff. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

The level of discourse remains the same here I see.

Ron if you weren't such a lefty puke you would SEE there is no difference between Obama and Castro.

And no difference between yourself and a Cuban peasant.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Lefties have admired Cuba and its Medical system for decades.

Even Castro is admitting its crap so we get lefty posters trying to derail with a bunch of insults. Activity that used to be defined as "trollish".

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

And of course this is where certain posters are going to try very hard to keep the thread about ANYTHING other than Fidel Castro saying communism doesn't work.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Here's the deal Rich...thinking people, whether liberal or conservative, are wondering what this thread has to do with anything here in the US. Since less than .5% of our population and maybe one of our elected officials identify as Communist or would support Soviet style Socialism here, then we are wondering what point Thomas and luckyduck are trying to make. This is the polite version of Ron's post.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
The word "communism" may occupy great disfavor, but the ideals, principles, and even the propaganda are welded to liberalism in America.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


At least one die-hard Leftist is willing to admit it -

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Report: Castro says Cuban model doesn't work

HAVANA – Fidel Castro told a visiting American journalist that Cuba's communist economic model doesn't work, a rare comment on domestic affairs from a man who has conspicuously steered clear of local issues since stepping down four years ago.

The fact that things are not working efficiently on this cash-strapped Caribbean island is hardly news. Fidel's brother Raul, the country's president, has said the same thing repeatedly. But the blunt assessment by the father of Cuba's 1959 revolution is sure to raise eyebrows.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, asked if Cuba's economic system was still worth exporting to other countries, and Castro replied: "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore" Goldberg wrote Wednesday in a post on his Atlantic blog.


Full article at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_fidel_castro_5

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

...Fidel Castro saying communism doesn't work.

Its an amazing development too, isnt it?

First there was Gorbachev, then Red China.

Now even old Fidel is fessing up to it!

The only ones left in denial are the hard line NK dictatorship and the Democratic party here in the United States.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Here's the deal Rich...thinking people, whether liberal or conservative, are wondering what this thread has to do with anything here in the US. Since less than .5% of our population and maybe one of our elected officials identify as Communist or would support Soviet style Socialism here, then we are wondering what point Thomas and luckyduck are trying to make. This is the polite version of Ron's post.

First off, Brainia, don't try to drag me into your tent. The word "communism" may occupy great disfavor, but the ideals, principles, and even the propaganda are welded to liberalism in America. Rather than simply let the verbal denials roll on, I like to ask them why communism hasn't worked, and what in particular they don't like about it, to get the actual opinions flowing.

This man led an army to victorious revolution, led his country for decades, and is now saying what he believed in was wrong and had failed. I think that's worthy of discussion.

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
Goldberg missed the key question which would be if Castro forsaw any other model that would be better for Cuba. Or if he felt Cuba would have faired better with equitable treatment by the US. Or at least not having been sanctioned and blockaded at every point.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
yeah.....


and bush and you cons just showed us how well capitalism works......

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why would a communist country need anything from a capitalist nation as the United States used to be? And whats the last time we blockaded them. Youre also overlooking the fact that Cuba was heavily subsidized by the Soviets for decades and I believe they still have a lot of sweetheart deals going on with the likes of Russia, Venezuela and Iran.

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
Goldberg missed the key question which would be if Castro forsaw any other model that would be better for Cuba. Or if he felt Cuba would have faired better with equitable treatment by the US. Or at least not having been sanctioned and blockaded at every point.