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high heels for toddlers? - 9/1/2010 11:08:16 PM   
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I didn't even realize that anyone made high heels for toddlers, let alone that a parent would allow their child to wear them for playing outside.  As with the mom who wrote the article, I feel that heels are for dress up play, not for real play.  I am still astonished that there are manufacturers who make them for 3 year olds.  I can not think of any appropriate place a child that age should wear such shoes, even for a wedding. 
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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/1/2010 11:12:03 PM   
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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 6:11:28 AM   
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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 9:43:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		A million years ago when the soon to be graduate was that age, she ran around in those one size fits none dress up box heels. Honestly, if I could have gotten her a pair that fit at payless for $20, I would have. The ones in the dress up box, and mine, were very unsafe on her. And at that age, there are times a kid will not agree to dress appropriately. So I see no problem in one showing up at preschool in little heels that fit. I'm betting that there were sneakers there for when they went outside and that the kid changed. Just as mine insisted on wearing those jellies to preschool in winter. I carried her the ten steps from parking lot to the door and brought her boots with her.

I do find it odd that the mother in the article made these wild assumptions without asking the daycare provider.
Of course, back in first or second grade, I looked at her outfit and sent a note to the teacher saying she dressed herself and I was not responsible for the lack of fashion sense.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 9:58:17 AM   
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A million years ago when the soon to be graduate was that age, she ran around in those one size fits none dress up box heels. Honestly, if I could have gotten her a pair that fit at payless for $20, I would have. The ones in the dress up box, and mine, were very unsafe on her. And at that age, there are times a kid will not agree to dress appropriately. So I see no problem in one showing up at preschool in little heels that fit. I'm betting that there were sneakers there for when they went outside and that the kid changed. Just as mine insisted on wearing those jellies to preschool in winter. I carried her the ten steps from parking lot to the door and brought her boots with her.

I do find it odd that the mother in the article made these wild assumptions without asking the daycare provider.
Of course, back in first or second grade, I looked at her outfit and sent a note to the teacher saying she dressed herself and I was not responsible for the lack of fashion sense.

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I think the concern is a valid one, Des with a medical basis as stated in the article:
"...in a recent Associated Press article, Matthew Dairman, a Virginia foot and ankle surgeon, said parents should limit tots to high heels once or twice a week, for no longer than four hours – if at all. Heels pose physical risks such as a tightening of the heel cord and changes in the growth plate."

I don't think parents who let their kids wear heels should be demonized anymore than parents who let their kids wear flip-flops 3 seasons a year, but neither are good for growing feet/legs.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 10:07:44 AM   
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I cannot agree with you more. I think it should be illegal to even make them let alone sell them; and parents who put them on their children should be charged with child abuse. There is absolutely no reason that a child should wear a heel of any height for any reason. There are adorable shoes that have no heels at all. I agree that all little girls want to play dress up and for that little bit of time they can play. I encourage that and participate with my girls I also agree that the play shoes are dangerous so they wear mommy's. But it is play. My girls - 11yrs and 9 yrs old are still not permitted to wear heels for anything other than Church or a special occasion. That is after I have exhausted every attempt to find a cute dress shoe without a heel. Those time periods are typically only for a few hours and for the most part they are sitting down. For me enforcing that rule is not a problem. It is finding shoes that do not have heels that are not the velcro old lady shoes. Your options are very limited but I am very stubborn, lol. To all of the mothers out there that permit their children to wear heels, I am not trying to pick a battle with you. This is my opinion only. But if you would think about safety and if shoe manufacturers would make age appropriate, SAFE, stylish shoes with a flat comfy sole I am sure there would be a lot of happy parents.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 10:34:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I still think that the article made wild assumptions. She saw a kid wearing heels and assumed the kid wears them everyday, all day. I doubt it, from my own experience. My kid never wore them for very long and neither did any of her playmates. There were days when they insisted on wearing princess dresses to daycare or the grocery store, despite the inappropriateness of the attire. But that was rare compared to putting on slip on sneakers and leggings and a pullover.

It says she saw this kid wearing heels once. Presumably the kid's been in daycare with her kid for months and she never wore them before. It's making a mountain out of a molehill. She doesn't say if the kid was still wearing them at the end of the day or has ever worn them before.

My daughter ran around in little pink cowboy boots mainly and as we all know there are heels on cowboy boots. I can assure you she came to no harm. She still wears cowboy boots but she rides horses. At least the boots were her size. And she changed into sneakers when the boots became an annoyance. Kids' fads don't last too long. Distract them with milk and cookies and they'll be fine without it later on.

There is no reason to have a big song and dance about it, making laws forbidding it when most kids won't wear heels more than two hours a week left to their own devices.


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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 12:48:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		High heels were called the first physical aphrodisiac, that was way back when, when a glimpse of a ankle was tadamount to being naughty... I dont have kids but would not let my toddler wear heels let you children be children they will have plenty of time to explore fashion in their future, there are all kinds of freaks out there just itching to get their hands on small children, why give them more bait ??

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 1:29:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		children play dress up, and make believe that they cook, shop, work ride horses, put out fires, and play space man....... a toddler playing dress up in heels is no more sexual then a toddler playing cops and robbers who happens to be the robber is training for a life of crime.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 2:14:24 PM   
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Serious point - the sexualisation of young children is something we should defend against.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 8:03:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. they sell dress up make up to emulate mommy. There are plastic cases that twist up but it's only plastic so no color. Or there are edible lip glosses.

This isn't a case of adults sexualizing children. But of children imitating their parents. They see their mothers get dressed up in heels and make up, they want to imitate it.


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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 9:41:38 PM   
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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 10:25:57 PM   
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seriously, does anyone think it's ok to allow little girls to dress "sexy"? it makes me sick to see any girl over the age of one in a cutsie-pie short dress or dressed to emphasize their anatomy. dressing "sexy" like mommy is fine for playtime, wearing mommy's clothes and shoes, but the person who created those kiddie pagents should have been shot! pedophiles are already sick in the head, let's just blur those perceptions even more by creating miniature sexually attractive females. dressed to the nines and made up looking like they're mini 20 yr olds, and then let's teach them how to "flaunt it". yeah, brilliant! special place in hell for that guy, right next to whoever killed jonbenet.

what's wrong with just letting kids be little? do we really need heels for 3 yr olds? it's up to the parents to control certain things. grow a set and be the adult!

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/2/2010 10:38:20 PM   
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Just what we need.  Something to make kids sexier to our nation's pedophiles.


You know, I can't stand baby pageants and the like, but I loved to play with my Barbies, and house, and wear my mommy's shoes. I even got into her makeup and made myself up... didn't you? Or did you miraculously know how to do all of these things at 14 when you went into high school?

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/3/2010 10:39:08 AM   
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Just what we need.  Something to make kids sexier to our nation's pedophiles.


You know, I can't stand baby pageants and the like, but I loved to play with my Barbies, and house, and wear my mommy's shoes. I even got into her makeup and made myself up... didn't you? Or did you miraculously know how to do all of these things at 14 when you went into high school?



some of us never bothered with makeup even then and still don't use it very often. we weren't allowed to wear makeup in my house until high school. my mom's makeup collection was very sparse, my dad hated "painted ladies" after a tour in japan. my mom insisted that before we used makeup we learn to use it first, reading about the use of makeup and skin care and using it very sparingly. if dad didn't like the way you looked, you had to wash it off.

these days my sons are in high school now and they find they like the natural fresh faced girls better than the ones who look like they trowel their faces on every morning. i look at it this way, if you don't like what you see, no amount of paint is going to change that. a horse's ass with an airbrushed finish is still a horse's ass. if you look at my profile picture, i'd just come from a party so yes, i am wearing makeup, a little eye makeup and such, but not much else. lipstick? tried it once, hated it. so why torture myself? who says women HAVE TO wear makeup at all? and why are we allowing our daughters to be brainwashed to believe it?

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/3/2010 10:46:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was asking VioletGrey if she had ever played dress up because of her response about girls dressing up being sexualized. Of course I realize that many girls do not play dress up, but many do, and it is not so as to appeal to pedophiles.

Would I buy my little girl a pair of these shoes? Oh, hell no, but Celeste made a good argument for doing so. If the kid doesn't have heels, how can they pitch a fit to wear them? That is my view on it at the end of the day.

I would buy my little girl makeup when they were old enough to play with it. It is NORMAL for little kids to play house, doctor, waitress, and dress up so they can pretend to be like adults. They are learning how to be adults. What could be more appealing to a little girl than to want to look like mommy does when mommy goes out somewhere special?

I think we can go to extremes on this subject in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with girls wanting to be pretty, and there is nothing wrong with them wearing "grown up" stuff to play. I think the problem arises when these behaviors are instigated by adults in the quest of some trophy or prize... that disturbs me, the other doesn't

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/3/2010 1:09:59 PM   
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Heels everyday for little girls? No. Playing dress up? Of course.
And yes, I can see buying a fitting pair of dress up shoes for my kid, if it was going through a phase in which they would be used comparatively often, to avoid injuries from wearing my shoes, or the ones that come in dress up kits.
I am all about choosing my battles in parenting.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/3/2010 1:58:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't really have a problem with kids playing 'dress up' games - imitating adults is all part of growing up.

But I question the value of selling products to kids that might damage them whilst they are growing. And personally, I think the link between heels and sexuality is pretty clear - no-one wears heels for comfort (do they?). If it's fine to sell heels to kids because it's 'just dressing up', then it must be fine to sell them crotchless knickers and sexy little stockings - that would be 'just dressing up' too.

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RE: high heels for toddlers? - 9/3/2010 2:48:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I was a little kid, I don't know I think 3 or 4 I used to like wearing my moms bra on my neck, and pretending to do the ironing. I had a toy ironing board and a toy iron, and a little toy broom. I also adored cleaning house, and making the beds in the house, and was so proud to show my mom, my work in her room.

She'd let me go in and make her bed and arrange her shoes in the closet, cause it made me feel so grown up and proud.

Ironically now, I think maybe the bed is a waste of time and effort, and am somewhat of a slob and live in a pigstye  lol.

I think at that young an age placing the label sexy shoes, on kids dress up heels, is just placing adult values on kids dress up items, values such things don't need.



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