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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

One way to look at it is this.  He was found guilty in a court of law and then he was sentenced by a jury of his peers.  Fellow felons.

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But I don't want our nation's prisons to be a place where the men and woman that go in come out worse than they were because such violence is tolerated. He sentenced to time in jail - not rape.

Unfortunately that's exactly what happens. Just a fyi but there is a large difference between jail and prison.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

One way to look at it is this.  He was found guilty in a court of law and then he was sentenced by a jury of his peers.  Fellow felons.

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One way to look at it is this.  He was found guilty in a court of law and then he was sentenced by a jury of his peers.  Fellow felons.

So you approve of rape?

That's basically what this comes down to. Regardless of what he did, he was sentenced under our justice system. That punishment did not include repeated sexual violations.

If you feel that we should have a system that includes sexual violation as a punishment, I suggest lobbying your Senator.

The individual, in this case, really isn't the point. The point is that we have a prison system rampent with abuse and rape of fellow inmates. Allowing it in any cases is unacceptable and simply defeats the point of the time they spend there. Why should anyone in there reform when society allows them to be raped?

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

I'm sorry but I can't generate any sympathy for a convicted child pornographer, molester, rapist, etc.  I really can't come up one bit of give a damn  about either him being or having his head slammed into the concrete.  

I believe those types should just be executed.

That said I have a huge problem with the prison guards not doing their job.  Prison is not supposed to be a free for all.  We can not allow this type of behavior.  

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It's the nature of the crime.  It's hard to find anyone who cares about what happens to him, not even the inmates.  

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ESPECIALLY not the inmates.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

If you plead guilty in court, then you are found guilty.  You are just hoping for a lighter sentence. 
In cases of child particularly heinous child molestation, I'm all for the death penalty.  I'd call generating explicit child pornography particularly heinous.  You are possibly correct that he shouldnt have been put in prison where his person might have been violated.  I mean the guy that did him might catch most anything.
No, he should have been just taken out back and shot like a mad dog.

Otherwise, as you said, he would have served a few years and gotten out.  Gotten out to do more children.  As it is we, the taxpayers, will have to maintain him for the rest of his life in a nursing home where, if he regains consciousness and his faculties, he will be a risk to prey on the other residents.

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If you plead guilty in court, then you are found guilty.  You are just hoping for a lighter sentence. 
In cases of child particularly heinous child molestation, I'm all for the death penalty.  I'd call generating explicit child pornography particularly heinous.  You are possibly correct that he shouldnt have been put in prison where his person might have been violated.  I mean the guy that did him might catch most anything.
No, he should have been just taken out back and shot like a mad dog.

Otherwise, as you said, he would have served a few years and gotten out.  Gotten out to do more children.  As it is we, the taxpayers, will have to maintain him for the rest of his life in a nursing home where, if he regains consciousness and his faculties, he will be a risk to prey on the other residents.

Why would I be hoping for a lighter sentence?

I've got no stake in defending him.

I'm just pointing out the fallacy of your argument.

If you believe that the death penalty is appropriate then  petition to change the laws, but vigilante justice just makes us lawless.

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We would be a LOT better off if animals like that were taken out back after conviction and shot.

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We would be a LOT better off if animals like that were taken out back after conviction and shot.

Perhaps and I'd agree with you if not for the fact that people are occasionally convincted falsely and, hence, everyone deserves the same number of appeals.

However, the sentences should be handled by the state. Not by fellow criminals at the guards urging. Anything less and we become what they are. Honestly, do you really think tolerating violence in the prisons is a good thing? That just shows the inmates that they can get away with what they want. This time you approve because they are going for someone who turns your stomach. What about when they go for a guard?

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Had there been a trial, Id be inclined to agree about the appeals but in this case, he pled guilty. I'm assuming he did that because he knew he was nailed and wanted to get a lighter sentence.

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One way to look at it is this.  He was found guilty in a court of law and then he was sentenced by a jury of his peers.  Fellow felons.

That is indeed one way of looking at it. Looking at it that way implies that one approves of and condones violence and the promulgation of human suffering.

Now I do think that violence and death can serve a purpose. I know about a truck driver who every morning early came to pick up a mate and used his claxon to announce his presence, waking up everybody in the vicinity. Someone eventually got so mad about that that he ran out, pulled open the door of that truck and gave the driver a punch in the face, and subsequently nicely asked him not to use his claxon any more that early in the morning. He appreciated that request and henceforth abstained from waking up the neighborhood.

Similarly, I think that my neighbor with his loud music would be reborn as a civilized person if someone punched him hard in the face and subsequently asked him nicely to not harass his neighbors any more with his uncivilized behavior. Unfortunately I neither have the muscles nor the personality to civilize this anti-social ogre.

However, putting a chicken in the chicken coop and allowing him and even encouraging him to be picked to death by the other chickens in the coop is callous and inhumane behavior in my opinion. And not a proper way for those other chickens to regain some honor.

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Sexually transmitted diseases are a blessing for the human race, given to us by one of the mighty pagan gods - and thus by the his will facilitating Divine. All those who circumcise or with a circumcised penis, oppose this god's will and thus blaspheme; they ought to be dead.