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dcnovice -> Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 9:33:16 AM)
At a time when our nation, and our little subset of it here in P&R, is so polarized, I was intrigued to come across a piece in the Washington Blade, my city's gay newspaper, about how conservatives have taken a leading role in the marriage-equality fight. Theodore Olson, who led the court battle against Prop 8, was the former solicitor general for Bush 43, and Judge Vaughn Walker was originally named to the bench by Ronald Reagan. Learn more at http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/08/19/conservatives-take-lead-in-marriage-fight/ Can this be a step toward finding common ground? If so, how?

tazzygirl -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 10:13:57 AM)
Last week, I asked Ted Olson, the co-lead attorney of the team that successfully challenged Prop 8, what motivated him to pursue the case, and he eloquently and movingly replied, “I agreed to participate because I believed that Proposition 8 perpetrated unnecessary, destructive, cruel and unlawful discrimination against gay men and lesbians. I invited David Boies to join so that our legal team would have his talent, expertise and creativity, and to demonstrate that this cause was neither conservative nor liberal, but an issue of human rights, human decency and equality.” I could not agree more. And there is an inconvenient truth in this for the gay left: conservatives have taken the leadership role in achieving marriage equality and have achieved the most important success so far as they are the most willing and most able to take the case to the Supreme Court. From your source. But the inconvenient truth of this article is that the author wants to make this into a republican vs democrat issue. Seems you do as well.

dcnovice -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 10:39:41 AM)
quote: But the inconvenient truth of this article is that the author wants to make this into a republican vs democrat issue. Seems you do as well. Tazzy, I agree that the author needles the gay left (of which I'm a member) a bit, but I didn't see her making it into a partisan conflict. Perhaps I was naive about that. I honestly don't want to make it a partisan issue either. My perspective is that of a Democrat saying, "Hey, some folks across the aisle are on the same side this time out. Can we build on that?" Eta: I should make clear that the Blade identified this as commentary/opinion, not a news story.

popeye1250 -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 12:03:49 PM)
Who are Gays "bothering" by being married? It really isn't a "partisan" or "political" issue at all. I've talked to people on the far right and the far left as well as others who said they were "against" Gay marriage and asked them that question, "why would it "bother" you if Gays were married" and they agreed with me that after thinking about that that it really (wouldn't) bother them.

DomKen -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 12:19:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice At a time when our nation, and our little subset of it here in P&R, is so polarized, I was intrigued to come across a piece in the Washington Blade, my city's gay newspaper, about how conservatives have taken a leading role in the marriage-equality fight. Theodore Olson, who led the court battle against Prop 8, was the former solicitor general for Bush 43, and Judge Vaughn Walker was originally named to the bench by Ronald Reagan. Learn more at http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/08/19/conservatives-take-lead-in-marriage-fight/ Can this be a step toward finding common ground? If so, how? This looks like the first really major push back inside the conservative movement against the RR that has come to dominate the right. Assuming the momentum can be maintained we may be seeing the end of the greatest danger to the Republic since 1945.

housesub4you -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 4:07:08 PM)
Ohhh popeye who are the Gays bothering by getting married???? You really need this answered???? Never mind all the Hollywood marriages that end in divorce ( I believe the Bible says they should be killed), never mind our political leaders who lie under oath and push against the Gay community, while they themselves pursue it in bathrooms , or have family members they believe should not have the same rights as them... I will tell you why gays should never marry and how they are destroying my marriage. I have posted this before, but seems the truth must keep being pushed. I had a gay couple move in next door to us, they bought an old broken down house and spent months rehabbing it, they have a color pattern for the house (something my wife now wants me to DO), they have landscaped the lawn to the point our weeds look like crap (something my wife bitches about), they have NO and I mean NO, NONE, ZIP, Zero old washers or dyers on their porch ( something else my wife has bitched about, like we do) So this couple has created a hell hole of work for me, which is casing stress in my marriage.

dcnovice -> RE: Conservatives for Marriage Equality (8/22/2010 4:29:11 PM)
quote: I will tell you why gays should never marry and how they are destroying my marriage. I have posted this before, but seems the truth must keep being pushed. I had a gay couple move in next door to us, they bought an old broken down house and spent months rehabbing it, they have a color pattern for the house (something my wife now wants me to DO), they have landscaped the lawn to the point our weeds look like crap (something my wife bitches about), they have NO and I mean NO, NONE, ZIP, Zero old washers or dyers on their porch ( something else my wife has bitched about, like we do) So this couple has created a hell hole of work for me, which is casing stress in my marriage. LOL!

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