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SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:37:32 AM)

I think it could be a fun way to support the site. Items could be priced reasonably and, after the Cafe Press fees are taken out, the rest could go to the site owner(s) to help offset costs. Also, when meeting someone for the first time, people can say "I'll be the one wearing the CM shirt." Or take a picture in your CM shirt for "verification." The possibilities are many and varied.




DarkSteven -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:37:46 AM)

Aileen bought a Dom off this site, and Shore bought a sub.  holly bought a husband, and Jim bought a self-destructing sub.  Does that count?




sirsholly -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:38:51 AM)

[image]http://www.moppo.net/anisigns/signer/temp/783172001282491477-final.gif[/image]




sexyred1 -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:39:59 AM)

Jeez, DS, if it was that easy, I would pick one from column A and one from column B...then I would have myself the perfect Dom!!

Although, I never pay retail, if possible, goes against my religion. [;)]




sirsholly -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:45:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

holly bought a husband
buyer beware!!!!

i tried to return his ass and he was a final sale.




FelineFae -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:46:50 AM)

Got Mods ?[:D]




sirsholly -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 8:49:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FelineFae

Got Mods ?
[image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/missingsmiley.gif[/image]




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 12:24:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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I'd be reluctant to buy anything from them. Their customer service on the website has historically been unreliable, sometimes downright terrible. I wouldn't feel comfortable making a purchase from them
Yet you seem to feel very comfortable taking what is offered for free while making nasty, backhanded remarks about those providing it. Nice going, Panda.
As for 'customer service', check out the definition of the word 'customer' some time. [8|]


My comprehension of the word "customer" is apparently at least as good as your understanding of the words "nasty" and "backhanded," and arguably much better. Actually, you don't seem to have a very good grasp of what any of those terms mean, because there was nothing "nasty" or "backhanded" about pointing out that historically, Collarme has a pattern of user support issues. Over the years, I've had occasion to contact support for several issues, mostly relating to password problems, and in most cases the response has been very poor. In some cases, there's been no response at all. And I'm not the only one who's made mention of this over the years, so it's fair to say that poor customer service has been a pattern.

I don't know what your point is. Yes, I am quite comfortable "taking what is offered for free" because free is approximately what it is worth. I get enough value out of it to use it occasionally as long as i don't have to pay for it, and apparently they're just as comfortable with that arrangement as I am, because  they allow me to continue in order to help boost their user statistics for advertisers. If they charged money, I wouldn't pay, because their history of non-responsiveness on customer support issues would make it difficulty for me to feel confident that I would get my money's worth should something go wrong. And I would be just as reluctant to purchase a product from them as i would a service, for the same reason.

What exactly is "nasty" or "backhanded" about that?  Don't we get enough dick-sucking around here in the weekly "I luvs the modz!!!!" threads without having to filter every single thing we say in the other threads, too?






VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:17:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Put me down as another person who would love a CM t-shirt or hoodie. It's easy to set up a Cafe Press store. And I think RS should design the graphics.

Just sayin.

E2A: For that matter, I'd love a CM coffee mug. Or a mousepad. Or any number of things Cafe Press carries.

Oh, Alpha! Ms. Alpha, Ma'am...



I'll see if I can figure out what department to send these suggestions to!!!!!![;)]




VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:32:28 PM)

Panda:

Noone has asked for those threads, (and that is the reason that, sorry, I know I appreciate them because it is a far cry from the threads that used to be posted in the past, here and other places, concerning the moderation of these forums) You have a right to your opinion, good or bad, and you are also allowed to post it freely. What concerns Me personally is how long ago you had these bad experiences with (what I am assuming the department must be) support. The changes that were made were not limited to the changes in the forums. If you have particular concerns, I would love for you to email me directly. I'm not about to say that I can resolve whatever concerns you have possibly the way you would like to see them resolved, but I will be happy to answer them in full. Please cmail me directly. Without knowing them, there is no way possible for Me to even try.




Lockit -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:34:48 PM)

Good lord Panda, what happened to you? You let a bit of online dissatisfaction make you that bitter and angry?

I wouldn't be able to wear a shirt just anywhere and think it might hang in the closet. A coffee mug or something else, smaller... oh yeah! When I had a web site I found a great coffee mug, designed what I wanted on it and everyone loved them. I also doubled my investment and was able to use it to support those the site was created for. I made nothing for myself as that wasn't the purpose. But something smaller and affordable was the ticket because not everyone had the money to afford a quality tee shirt with what it cost unless I bought so many it took the price down. I could never find a cold cup I thought worth it, but the way we all laugh around here and lose keyboards, I would think a cold cup with a lid a wise way to go!




Tantriqu -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:38:34 PM)

Two words for new CO merch: Purple Wristbands!!




DarkSteven -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:49:04 PM)

I wanna buy a mod.  [8D]




ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 1:49:54 PM)

Too late - they're all bought & paid for.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 2:44:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

Panda:

Noone has asked for those threads, (and that is the reason that, sorry, I know I appreciate them because it is a far cry from the threads that used to be posted in the past, here and other places, concerning the moderation of these forums) You have a right to your opinion, good or bad, and you are also allowed to post it freely. What concerns Me personally is how long ago you had these bad experiences with (what I am assuming the department must be) support. The changes that were made were not limited to the changes in the forums. If you have particular concerns, I would love for you to email me directly. I'm not about to say that I can resolve whatever concerns you have possibly the way you would like to see them resolved, but I will be happy to answer them in full. Please cmail me directly. Without knowing them, there is no way possible for Me to even try.


VA,

Thanks. I want to first say that I'm drawing a distinction between user support on site issues, and moderation. I was referring only to support issues on the "other side." I'll post a public response, because I think the people who run the site deserve a fair answer to at least one of the questions you asked. All of these issues to which I refer go back quite some time, most of them to before I created this profile a year and a half ago. They were the reason I had to create this profile, because the site screwed up my password and nobody could figure out how to fix that. I don't think I've had any user support issues since that time, because one of the lessons i learned from that experience was that there was no point in contacting support with a problem.

If you've got new support staff and/or policies since then, well fine - that's good news for everyone, and I would commend whoever made that decision. But you can hardly blame us for not being aware of that, because management never communicates anything about those changes to the users. It's your site to run, and you guys have every right to run it that way, but that kind of approach means that the users seldom know what's happening or why.

And no - thank you for your offer to try to fix the issues, which I have no doubt was entirely sincere and well-meant. But  there's nothing to fix. I don't need my old profile back, and as for any other technical issues I may have, I don't use the site often enough anymore that I really need any other help.

As for the "mod love" threads - I know you mods don't ask for those threads, and I'm not criticizing the mods because the threads exist. People post what they want to post. I'm not even complaining about the threads themselves, because they don't concern me. If people love the moderation so much they want to start threads about it, and it makes 'em happy to do that, more power to them. I'm all for people being happy. My only point was that if "we love it here and nobody'd better ever criticize this place" is the only sentiment that can safely be expressed, it's a pretty sad endpoint for what was once a very interesting message board.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 2:46:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Good lord Panda, what happened to you? You let a bit of online dissatisfaction make you that bitter and angry?



Who's bitter or angry? Jeez! I'm just careful about how I spend my money when I'm shopping online. That's all I'm saying, and I didn't particularly appreciate being accused of being  "backhanded and nasty" because I dared to say a less-than-effusive word about Collarme. I just get irritated sometimes with the group-think that's become so predominant around here over the last several months as more and more people have bailed out. The guy asked a question about what kind of experiences people have had purchasing goods online from the site, and I said I'd be cautious about buying anything because I've had customer service issues in the past. Why would anyone construe that as angry or bitter?




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 3:11:49 PM)

I've only written to support once. Remember that right-wingnut Adkisson who shot and killed 2 and wounded 7 at the Unitarian church in Knoxville? Well, the Knoxville paper published his "manifesto". I quoted a part of it that had the "n" word in it. XI banned me. I wrote support and told them how arbitrary, capricious, and malicious XI was for banning me because I quoted a newspaper.

Silence from support.




LadyPact -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 3:36:54 PM)

I've never bought any products directly through the site.  I have, however, bought products from people on the site.  When it comes to gear, I do prefer to shop in person.

I would absolutely wear a t-shirt with a CM logo and absolutely one that says "sadistic in leather".  I already have a shirt that says "ow is not a safe word" on the front and Lady Pact on the back.  I also have shirts from multiple years with the SELF logo and ones from attending Dom Con and various other places.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 3:47:29 PM)

Never purchased anything off this site, but I'd probably buy a Collar Me T-shirt. It could keep my Whipstock t-shirt company in my closet.





VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Collarme Merchandise (8/22/2010 7:31:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

Panda:

Noone has asked for those threads, (and that is the reason that, sorry, I know I appreciate them because it is a far cry from the threads that used to be posted in the past, here and other places, concerning the moderation of these forums) You have a right to your opinion, good or bad, and you are also allowed to post it freely. What concerns Me personally is how long ago you had these bad experiences with (what I am assuming the department must be) support. The changes that were made were not limited to the changes in the forums. If you have particular concerns, I would love for you to email me directly. I'm not about to say that I can resolve whatever concerns you have possibly the way you would like to see them resolved, but I will be happy to answer them in full. Please cmail me directly. Without knowing them, there is no way possible for Me to even try.


VA,

Thanks. I want to first say that I'm drawing a distinction between user support on site issues, and moderation. I was referring only to support issues on the "other side." I'll post a public response, because I think the people who run the site deserve a fair answer to at least one of the questions you asked. All of these issues to which I refer go back quite some time, most of them to before I created this profile a year and a half ago. They were the reason I had to create this profile, because the site screwed up my password and nobody could figure out how to fix that. I don't think I've had any user support issues since that time, because one of the lessons i learned from that experience was that there was no point in contacting support with a problem.

If you've got new support staff and/or policies since then, well fine - that's good news for everyone, and I would commend whoever made that decision. But you can hardly blame us for not being aware of that, because management never communicates anything about those changes to the users. It's your site to run, and you guys have every right to run it that way, but that kind of approach means that the users seldom know what's happening or why.

And no - thank you for your offer to try to fix the issues, which I have no doubt was entirely sincere and well-meant. But  there's nothing to fix. I don't need my old profile back, and as for any other technical issues I may have, I don't use the site often enough anymore that I really need any other help.

As for the "mod love" threads - I know you mods don't ask for those threads, and I'm not criticizing the mods because the threads exist. People post what they want to post. I'm not even complaining about the threads themselves, because they don't concern me. If people love the moderation so much they want to start threads about it, and it makes 'em happy to do that, more power to them. I'm all for people being happy. My only point was that if "we love it here and nobody'd better ever criticize this place" is the only sentiment that can safely be expressed, it's a pretty sad endpoint for what was once a very interesting message board.




I am also drawing the same distinction Panda. First off, you do know that I am a "regular user" in that I joined Collarme as such and offered volunteer time on various items and gradually my gig just kind of morphed. Saying that, I can tell you that support changed a few months before the moderation changes were visible. Were the users informed? No. What instead happened are the letters from users that wrote before and after the change saying what pleasant suprises they had. Are we always able to do what the user wants? Well HELL no. (You should see what they want at times<grin>)We do what we can, and all I can say for a fact is there is a BIG difference. I for one am glad you have had no reason to write support, because that means in actuality on the "other" side things must be working well for you.

As far as
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"we love it here and nobody'd better ever criticize this place" is the only sentiment that can safely be expressed,
that's not the site saying that, that is the other users. I AM glad that a large part of the users feel that way, I would be lying if I said otherwise, because, in the past, that may or may not have been the sentiment had it been expressed. *places tongue firmly in cheek* It is not required to treat us all like the Goddesses We are, but We love when users do![;)]

As to the sentiment "OF WHAT WAS ONCE a very interesting message board". Obviously you have the right to have your own opinion. I have seen, however, a much wider range of subjects than ever before allowed here in my time as a regular user. Granted, we have been doing some fine tuning recently, but that is also based on the majority of what the people seem to want. We have never said you had to be nice, or not express dissatisfaction, whether about a view point of a user or the workings of the site.

If you have the occasion to use customer support again,(which I hope you do not, because that means a problem) I hope that you in fact find it a better experience. It is not possible to change the past, only to do what can be done in the present.




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