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splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:29:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lally2 
my son had a visit from something in his bedroom.  he started sleeping with me and when i went into his room there was a definite atmosphere and it felt bitterly cold in there. i slept in there to see what was happening and i had some seriously bad dreams and went and slept on the sofa for the rest of the night.  the next day i went in there with attitude.  i was so phucking angry that this thing would attempt to attack my child and i sent it packing.  i said nothing to Tom but he went back to being happy in his room again pretty much straight away.


You just pulled a 10 on my freaky-ometer.

I once had an OBE. Now that is something that alters you. I also once had future events revealed to me on a ouija board.

How do these things happen ?






lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:41:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: splorff


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ORIGINAL: lally2 
my son had a visit from something in his bedroom.  he started sleeping with me and when i went into his room there was a definite atmosphere and it felt bitterly cold in there. i slept in there to see what was happening and i had some seriously bad dreams and went and slept on the sofa for the rest of the night.  the next day i went in there with attitude.  i was so phucking angry that this thing would attempt to attack my child and i sent it packing.  i said nothing to Tom but he went back to being happy in his room again pretty much straight away.


You just pulled a 10 on my freaky-ometer.

I once had an OBE. Now that is something that alters you. I also once had future events revealed to me on a ouija board.

How do these things happen ?





out of body is wonderful, its only happened twice to me on both of those occasions id been meditating and the meditation had taken me out of body.

actually three times, the first time was a few years ago and i found myself floating feet first out through the bedroom door, i was so freaked out i jolted myself out of it.

the last two times have been relatively recent and i loved it.  i wanted to go further but i just stayed in my bedroom.  both times i ended up floating around my room though on the last occasion i got tangled up with my duvet and couldnt get floor clearance [:D] - i kinda floated a few feet above the floor realised i wasnt gonna get any higher and gave up.

ive never done ouiji - i have a bit of a phobia about such things to be honest.  you can never know what youre inviting in and ive known of cases where not so nice energies have attached themselves to people or stuck around afterwards.  but maybe its something to try in the future, never say never, i guess its all about protecting youreself first anyway.




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[:D]




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 4:04:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

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[:D]


trick or treat?? - i suspect treat - so cute [:D]




Level -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 4:11:04 AM)

[;)]

Good topic, lally; I didn't really have anything to add, but enjoyed listening to y'all's stories.




splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 6:32:26 AM)



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ORIGINAL: lally2

out of body is wonderful, its only happened twice to me on both of those occasions id been meditating and the meditation had taken me out of body.
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Actually it has happened twice to me. I had been trying to do it for years with the mental exercises given in some of the books I have on the subject. I had had a very long tiring day. Before giving up to sleep I tried the exercise and was immediately somewhere else. I was naked in a gently sloping meadow. It was autumn time there, and mist had covered much of the ground. It seemed to be about 5am . All my senses were in hyper mode. My skin Iwas shivering with the cold. I felt the long grass toying with my calves. The cold morning air was heavy with moisture. Being naked I became concerned at the cold. The whole reality then morphed into another. I was standing up against a wall. It was multicoloured. It made our rainbow seem ugly. Something told me it was a portal, and that I should enter the colour wall. I grew afraid that did I do so, I might not ever return. I began to resist, and found myself in my bed.

I thought- you fool, you have been trying to do that for years. I tried again, and once more came up against the colour wall. Again I grew afraid, and as before returned to my bed.

This was 30 years ago. I have never experienced it since, though I have tried. The solution I think is to just get extremely tired, then try again.


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ORIGINAL: lally2ive never done ouiji - i have a bit of a phobia about such things to be honest. you can never know what youre inviting in and ive known of cases where not so nice energies have attached themselves to people or stuck around afterwards. but maybe its something to try in the future, never say never, i guess its all about protecting youreself first anyway.
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Then don’t do it. Two teenage boys in my town were in the local rag about 10 years ago. One had asked :

“When will I die “? It very slowly spelt out – t h r e e d a y s .

He ended up a bit messy after that.




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 7:30:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: splorff


Actually it has happened twice to me. I had been trying to do it for years with the mental exercises given in some of the books I have on the subject. I had had a very long tiring day. Before giving up to sleep I tried the exercise and was immediately somewhere else. I was naked in a gently sloping meadow. It was autumn time there, and mist had covered much of the ground. It seemed to be about 5am . All my senses were in hyper mode. My skin Iwas shivering with the cold. I felt the long grass toying with my calves. The cold morning air was heavy with moisture. Being naked I became concerned at the cold. The whole reality then morphed into another. I was standing up against a wall. It was multicoloured. It made our rainbow seem ugly. Something told me it was a portal, and that I should enter the colour wall. I grew afraid that did I do so, I might not ever return. I began to resist, and found myself in my bed.

I thought- you fool, you have been trying to do that for years. I tried again, and once more came up against the colour wall. Again I grew afraid, and as before returned to my bed.

This was 30 years ago. I have never experienced it since, though I have tried. The solution I think is to just get extremely tired, then try again.


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ORIGINAL: lally2ive never done ouiji - i have a bit of a phobia about such things to be honest. you can never know what youre inviting in and ive known of cases where not so nice energies have attached themselves to people or stuck around afterwards. but maybe its something to try in the future, never say never, i guess its all about protecting youreself first anyway.
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Then don’t do it. Two teenage boys in my town were in the local rag about 10 years ago. One had asked :

“When will I die “? It very slowly spelt out – t h r e e d a y s .

He ended up a bit messy after that.



wow, what an awesome experience.  but i know what you mean on the 'eek' factor. because it is so 'out there' in terms of what we know and understand the natural reaction is to self protect, the moment you do you shut down and it all closes off.  with my obe's the whole thing was that i had no real control over what i was doing. a little but not much.  i could make myself go up and down and forwards and backwards whilst floating, but i believe in my head the idea of actually floating out of my bedroom window was one step too far.

the oddest part is that you are completely present as you. the thought processes and youre relationship with youre surroundings is never lost. and as you found out, you have the choice of stopping it whenever you want.

if i were you id get active, wear youreself out totally and try again - that sounds so awesome.

the thing with the ouiji is that it can fuck about - just too unstable for me.  poor kid, is he alright, i dont suppose you know.




splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 10:19:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lally2

wow, what an awesome experience.  but i know what you mean on the 'eek' factor. because it is so 'out there' in terms of what we know and understand the natural reaction is to self protect, the moment you do you shut down and it all closes off.  with my obe's the whole thing was that i had no real control over what i was doing. a little but not much.  i could make myself go up and down and forwards and backwards whilst floating, but i believe in my head the idea of actually floating out of my bedroom window was one step too far.

the oddest part is that you are completely present as you. the thought processes and youre relationship with youre surroundings is never lost. and as you found out, you have the choice of stopping it whenever you want.

if i were you id get active, wear youreself out totally and try again - that sounds so awesome.

the thing with the ouiji is that it can fuck about - just too unstable for me.  poor kid, is he alright, i dont suppose you know.


It was not as widely reported and acknowledged as today. I would have been thought psychotic had I talked of it then. Now its not a problem as you know, its in the papers every so often. This was about1981.

"The colour wall" was only like a wall in shape. it was more like a cloud in texture. It went endlessly in every direction. It had colours I have never seen before, nor am able to describe. It was inches from my nose.

OBE-ers/astral travellers seem to be presented with portals. They may be doors or bridges. There is often felt to be an invitation to enter. Its is difficult to get over the fear if you have read the literature of the astral travellers/occultists. They often speak of The Dweller on the Threshold, and astral attack by negative forces.

I have read enough now to believe that it is not a real place. There are no dwellers or evil forces. We are simply in an altered state and playing alone in our own minds. But as you know, it is so real. It is the most exciting thing I have ever done.

I have a book by someone who promises that you will have an obe in 30 days. I will find it if you wish. You may want to order it. The author claims that he leaves his body and can become an animal of his choosing, He swims with dolhins and humpbacks, and flies with vultures.

Oh , and get this, he has sex on the astral plane !

I dont know anymore about the kid.




MasterJohnSteed -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 11:51:52 AM)

The Grim Reaper   Many Years ago, when people still had cook houses (The Kitchen apart from the rest of the house to prevent possibility of fire) My Great Great Grandmother was heading to make breakfast. She started walking up the stairs to the cook house and there was a man standing in the door way.   The man was wearing a black suit with a white shirt and behind him was pitch black. GG Sue turned around to yell for help and when she turned back, the man was gone and the door to the cook house was closed and locked.   Later that morning her youngest son Ora came in with his long night shirt on, got too close to the fire and was severally burned and died.




TheHeretic -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 12:11:54 PM)

There is so much we humans just don't understand yet (if we ever will). Sometimes there are... echoes. Or, you might have been hallucinating.




DarlingSavage -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 12:15:43 PM)

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my son had a visit from something in his bedroom. he started sleeping with me and when i went into his room there was a definite atmosphere and it felt bitterly cold in there. i slept in there to see what was happening and i had some seriously bad dreams and went and slept on the sofa for the rest of the night. the next day i went in there with attitude. i was so phucking angry that this thing would attempt to attack my child and i sent it packing. i said nothing to Tom but he went back to being happy in his room again pretty much straight away.


What a cool story!  You were very brave!  I would have been freaking out!  I don't think I could have had that kind of courage!  Nor, do I think I would have thought to do that.  If I'd have thought of it, then maybe I would have done it, but I'm not so sure I would have thought to do that.

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ive never done ouiji - i have a bit of a phobia about such things to be honest. you can never know what youre inviting in and ive known of cases where not so nice energies have attached themselves to people or stuck around afterwards. but maybe its something to try in the future, never say never, i guess its all about protecting youreself first anyway.


Ouija Demon




splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 1:15:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJohnSteed

The Grim Reaper   Many Years ago, when people still had cook houses (The Kitchen apart from the rest of the house to prevent possibility of fire) My Great Great Grandmother was heading to make breakfast. She started walking up the stairs to the cook house and there was a man standing in the door way.   The man was wearing a black suit with a white shirt and behind him was pitch black. GG Sue turned around to yell for help and when she turned back, the man was All sorts of gone and the door to the cook house was closed and locked.   Later that morning her youngest son Ora came in with his long night shirt on, got too close to the fire and was severally burned and died.


Awesome story, but has the tale grown in the telling, as Tolkien would have put it ?

Many years ago, I was in a nightclub and witnessed two young men getting aggressive. They were jostling and shouting at each other. Nothing more. The following week someone who I knew was not there at the time, was telling me about the fight ! I let him carry on. They were punching, kicking and wrecking the furniture. Events I knew had not occured.

Now I am not saying that things did not unfold exactly as you are saying. They may well have. But I do know that people like to embellish the account of the event. And when the story has passed through a dozen people, it can often be way different from what really happened. And as you see, we dont even need much time for it to occur in.
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splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 1:17:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

There is so much we humans just don't understand yet (if we ever will). Sometimes there are... echoes. Or, you might have been hallucinating.


Yes it could have been a hallucination brought on by sleep deprivation. I dont really believe it is a real place.




splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 1:30:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lally2
wow, what an awesome experience. 


Yes it was. It was and still is the most profound thing that has ever happened to me. It changed me. I really believed then that it was a place. I thought it was the afterlife. I had no fear of death at all then.

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ORIGINAL: lally2
the oddest part is that you are completely present as you. the thought processes and youre relationship with youre surroundings is never lost. and as you found out, you have the choice of stopping it whenever you want.


Yes, fully present and entirely sober, as the impossible unfolds around you. When you get a little further you will find all your senses become incredibly alert


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ORIGINAL: lally2
if i were you id get active, wear youreself out totally and try again - that sounds so awesome.




Yes, you have reawaken an interest long since put to sleep




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 2:53:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: splorff



Yes, you have reawaken an interest long since put to sleep


then... maybe this thread had a reason - the man i saw was for you - in starting this thread - here we are - dont waste it. [:)]




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:07:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterJohnSteed

The Grim Reaper   Many Years ago, when people still had cook houses (The Kitchen apart from the rest of the house to prevent possibility of fire) My Great Great Grandmother was heading to make breakfast. She started walking up the stairs to the cook house and there was a man standing in the door way.   The man was wearing a black suit with a white shirt and behind him was pitch black. GG Sue turned around to yell for help and when she turned back, the man was gone and the door to the cook house was closed and locked.   Later that morning her youngest son Ora came in with his long night shirt on, got too close to the fire and was severally burned and died.


a friend of mine told me about how her mother died.   she'd not been feeling well for a while.  the day of her death she had gone upstairs to the loo.  as she got to the landing she called down to her husband (my friends dad) and said. 'theres someone up here with me'  she then collapsed and died.  from what my friend said of her fathers account, her mother hadnt sounded scared.  maybe that person had simply come down to help her pass and maybe thats who that man was in youre families story.

actually i have a cute story like that.   years ago i had a cat called Tansy who was young and fit with all her life ahead of her. i noticed one of her eyes was bulging.  my mother took her to the vet and cancer was diagnosed, in operable.  the vet said she had about a week before there would be any pain, so my mum brought her home.  it was the most agonising week of my young life, i loved tansy so much.  the day came and she was put down.   that night i felt a cat jump up on my bed, walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me. i thought it was cromwell, who was a pest at night, he used to prowl and meow to go out, so i switched on my light and there was no cat there and no cat in the room.  i realised it was tansy.  she visited for three days and then didnt come back again until a few years ago.

my darling cookie had been diagnosed with cancer but was on meds and i was told he'd be ok for a bit, but to bring him in if he started to seem distressed.  i was scared that i might miss the signs and cookie would suffer.   one night about two weeks after the diagnosis i felt a cat jump up on my bed,walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me and i knew it was tansy and i knew she was telling me to take cookie to the vet in the morning.

mostly these things arent so sinister, we're just made to believe that anything supernatural has to be, only because we dont really understand and what we dont understand we're suspicious of.




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:13:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

There is so much we humans just don't understand yet (if we ever will). Sometimes there are... echoes. Or, you might have been hallucinating.


i havent taken mushrooms in years i tell you!!! [:D] - if i was hallucinating to that degree id take myself to the doc and be sworn off driving and demand to be sent for an MRI [&:]




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:16:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

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my son had a visit from something in his bedroom. he started sleeping with me and when i went into his room there was a definite atmosphere and it felt bitterly cold in there. i slept in there to see what was happening and i had some seriously bad dreams and went and slept on the sofa for the rest of the night. the next day i went in there with attitude. i was so phucking angry that this thing would attempt to attack my child and i sent it packing. i said nothing to Tom but he went back to being happy in his room again pretty much straight away.


What a cool story!  You were very brave!  I would have been freaking out!  I don't think I could have had that kind of courage!  Nor, do I think I would have thought to do that.  If I'd have thought of it, then maybe I would have done it, but I'm not so sure I would have thought to do that.


the maternal instinct is a powerful thing - [:D]




splorff -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 3:54:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lally2

   that night i felt a cat jump up on my bed, walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me. i thought it was cromwell, who was a pest at night, he used to prowl and meow to go out, so i switched on my light and there was no cat there and no cat in the room.  i realised it was tansy.  she visited for three days and then didnt come back again until a few years ago.

my darling cookie had been diagnosed with cancer but was on meds and i was told he'd be ok for a bit, but to bring him in if he started to seem distressed.  i was scared that i might miss the signs and cookie would suffer.   one night about two weeks after the diagnosis i felt a cat jump up on my bed,walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me and i knew it was tansy and i knew she was telling me to take cookie to the vet in the morning.



I've never had an animal visit me, but I have had three people. The first was the lady who used to live in my house before it was mine. She died in the back room. I was doing some diy in the corner, and I just knew someone was watching me. I spun around but saw no one. She was probably just wondering who I was and what I was doing in her home. They seem tied to this world for a while.

I got a visit from my mother a day after her death. She quickly left.

I got another visitor shortly after my fathers death. This was the most vivid. It was my paternal grandfather. I spoke to him greeting him warmly. I could smell him too. Its not like he was smelly in life or anything. I mean I could again smell the washing powder grandma used on their clothes. It differed from the brand used at our home. He lingered for quite e while.

Are you interested in The Runes ?




lally2 -> RE: spooky but true (7/22/2010 4:06:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: splorff


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ORIGINAL: lally2

  that night i felt a cat jump up on my bed, walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me. i thought it was cromwell, who was a pest at night, he used to prowl and meow to go out, so i switched on my light and there was no cat there and no cat in the room.  i realised it was tansy.  she visited for three days and then didnt come back again until a few years ago.

my darling cookie had been diagnosed with cancer but was on meds and i was told he'd be ok for a bit, but to bring him in if he started to seem distressed.  i was scared that i might miss the signs and cookie would suffer.   one night about two weeks after the diagnosis i felt a cat jump up on my bed,walk along the top of the duvet and settle down next to me and i knew it was tansy and i knew she was telling me to take cookie to the vet in the morning.



I've never had an animal visit me, but I have had three people. The first was the lady who used to live in my house before it was mine. She died in the back room. I was doing some diy in the corner, and I just knew someone was watching me. I spun around but saw no one. She was probably just wondering who I was and what I was doing in her home. They seem tied to this world for a while.

I got a visit from my mother a day after her death. She quickly left.

I got another visitor shortly after my fathers death. This was the most vivid. It was my paternal grandfather. I spoke to him greeting him warmly. I could smell him too. Its not like he was smelly in life or anything. I mean I could again smell the washing powder grandma used on their clothes. It differed from the brand used at our home. He lingered for quite e while.

Are you interested in The Runes ?


i find it all really comforting [:)]

no i dont, ive often looked at them in the shop and thought id like to. ive been working on my tarot reading and learning to trust what i see and feel without overworking it.

do you?




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