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Real0ne -> RE: Sovereignty Disease Strikes The UK!! (8/28/2010 6:31:21 PM)
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Ha this is waaaaaaaaaay to easy!
all the evil things people out here say!
Why wouldnt the UKers want what we have in America?
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ORIGINAL: Arpig
Oh fucking great, our local Nazi apologist is back with his idiotic sovereignty shit....I for one didn't miss him in the slightest....Hey unrealone...go away again.
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Probably not, just another one of realone's bs sovereigntyidiotic bs threads, no screwed up conspiracy stuff... well not as many, we still had hunky
Unfortunately, as usual, correct idiotic sovereignty shit.
The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Volume 4]
The Petition of Matthew Lyon.
Senate, March, 1821.
Mr. SMITH, (of South Carolina.) The Constitution of the United States is not the production of Congress; it is not the property of Congress. It is the production of the people, and the property of the people. It is their shield against the abuse of powers, as well as against the usurpation of powers, both by Congress and the judges. Your powers are limited. All legislative powers are granted to Congress, and all judicial powers are granted to the judges. You have, therefore, the power to enact laws, but no power to sit in judgment upon those laws. It is expressly and exclusively given to the judges to construe the laws, and to decide upon their constitutionality. The judges are an independent and coördinate branch of the government, deriving their authority from the Constitution, and not from Congress. They are accountable to the sovereign people; and if guilty of malpractice in administering the laws, they can and ought to be impeached; and you are the tribunal before which they are to answer, but there your powers cease. You have powers to punish judges for corruption, but none to revise or correct their decisions.
Revolutionary Diplomatic Correspondence of the United States, Volume 4 Congress.
That in case a truce shall be agreed on by the belligerent parties, Congress rely on his attention and prudence to hold up the United States to the world in a style and title not derogatory to the character of an independent and sovereign people.
Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 9 February 1, 1778 - May 31, 1778
Thomas Burke's Proposed Statement to Congress
Journals of the Continental Congress --SATURDAY, APRIL 11, 1778
The Delegates from Georgia, who always answered the last in order, accompanied me under the same persuasion. With respect to the minutes of the eleventh, protesting that as a delegate representing a free and sovereign people, I am entitled to entire freedom of debate, I say that the expressions minuted were accompanied with and explained by other expressions not minuted, which declared my sense to be, that Congress have a power so far as to enforce the attendance of the members, that if the hours of attendance were ascertained by Congress I would punctually attend but if not I must use my own judgment at the risk of any consequent punishments as to the time being reasonable when my presence is required; that I am at all times ready and willing to submit my conduct and opinions to my constituents, in whose justice I have the firmest confidence, and to whom I owe as a duty, to prevent, if I can, the decision of important matters, when members cannot duly attend them, that conviction of error always did, and always shall precede concession with me.
Journals of the Continental Congress --TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1778
We do therefore Commissionate and appoint you, the said Whitmill Hill and Thomas Burke, Delegates in Continental Congress, to represent this State for and during the Term of one Year, unless sooner removed by the General Assembly of this State; of which five Members, to wit, John Penn, Cornelius Harnett, John Williams, Whitmill Hill, and Thomas Burke, We do empower and require three and no more, unless prevented by unavoidable Accident, to attend the Councils of Congress, Hereby giving and granting unto any two of the said Delegates present in Congress, full Power and Authority, by their Vote or Assent, to bind the Inhabitants of this State in all Cases, not inconsistent with the Constitution thereof and its Rights and Privileges as an Independent Sovereign People, and the Instructions which they shall receive from this State.
Witness, Richard Caswell, Esquire, Governor, Captain General, and Commander in Chief of the said State, under his Hand and Seal now used for said State, at Hillsborough, the 13th day of August, in the Third Year of our Independence, Anno Domini, 1778.
Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 6 January 1, 1777 - April 30, 1777 --John Adams to Nathanael Greene
The Words of the Count La Tour,(3) upon a similar occasion, ought to be adopted by Us. "Remember that now there is room neither for Repentence, nor for Pardon. We must no longer reason nor deliberate. We only want Concord and Steadiness. The Lot is cast. If we prove victorious, We shall be a just, free and Sovereign People: if We are conquered, we shall be Traitors, perjured Persons and Rebels."
House Journal --THURSDAY, February 6, 1840.
Also requesting them to renew their exertions to obtain the passage of a law giving the claimants to all grants made by France and Spain, while they exercised the rights of sovereigns over the Territory of Louisiana; and also all purchases of land from Indian tribes, the right to test the validity of said grants before the judiciary of the United States upon principles of the laws of nations, the colonial laws and customs of France and Spain, in force in Louisiana at the time said grants were made, and in accordance with the treaties by which Louisiana and that part of the former Territory of West Florida were acquired by the United States from France and Spain; which resolution was referred to the Committee on Private Land Claims;
Senate Journal --THURSDAY, December 28, 1837.
Resolved, That the Government of the United States is a national Government only for the general purposes specified in the federal constitution;
That the States of this Union, in all their reserved rights and powers, are separate, independent, and sovereign political communities;
That any interference by one or more States, or by the people of one or more States, with the domestic institutions of any other State of this Union, or with any of its reserved rights and powers over those institutions, is a palpable and dangerous infraction of the spirit of the constitution of the United States, tending directly to disturb the peace and tranquillity of the Union, and to sever the links which connect us together as one people;
House Journal --MONDAY, June 25, 1860.
Under such circumstances, he must be a very bold man should he not surrender at discretion and consent to exercise his authority according to the will of those invested with this terrific power. The sovereign people of the several States have elected him to the highest and most honorable office in the world. lie is their only direct representative in the government. By their Constitution they have made him commander-in-chief of their army and navy. He represents them in their intercourse with foreign nations. Clothed with their dignity and authority, he occupies proud position before all nations, civilized and savage. With the consent of the Senate, he appoints all the important officers of....
This is the highest commendation which could be bestowed on the heads of these departments. The sovereign people of the States will, however, I trust, save my successors, whoever they may be, from any such ordeal. They are frank, bold, and honest. They detest, delators and informers. I therefore, in the name and as the representative of this great people, and standing upon the ramparts of the Constitution which they "have ordained and established," do solemnly protest against these unprecedented and unconstitutional proceedings.
And whereas, neither the State of New Jersey in its organic capacity as a sovereign State, nor the Governor and privy council of the said State, have any right, under the Constitution of the United States, to elect Representatives in Congress from the said State, but that right belongs wholly and exclusively to the people of that State in their highest sovereign capacity; nor have any right to judge of the elections, returns, or qualifications of such Representatives, because that right belongs exclusively to the House of Representatives; and any attempt to wrest from the people of New Jersey the sole right of electing their Representatives in Congress, or from Congress the exclusive right of judging of the elections, returns, and qualifications; of its own members, is a dangerous usurpation, under whatever plausible pretext it may be covered;
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fundamental principles of republican institutions, unwarranted by any State law, and wrests the right of suffrage from the people and rests it in their functionary, and is of a most alarming and dangerous tendency; and the legislature, as the guardians of the rights of the people in their highest sovereign capacity, feel bound in the most respectful manner, solemnly to protest against the same as unconstitutional, arbitrary, unfounded, and destructive of the rights of the people and the principles of their institutions.
And be it resolved by the authority aforesaid, That the thanks of this legislature and of those we represent are due to Peter D. Vroom, William R. Cooper, Daniel B. Ryall, Philemon Dickerson, and Joseph Kille, our members of Congress elect, for their firm, yet discreet, dignified, and honorable course in asserting the rights of themselves and of the sovereign people of New Jersey; and we hereby request them not to leave their posts, or cease their efforts until ample justice is done to the State in their admission to their seats in the House of Representatives.
House Journal --FRIDAY, June 22, 1866.
This importance is at the present time enhanced by the fact that the joint resolution was not submitted by the two houses for the approval of the President, and that of the thirty-six States which constitute the Union, eleven are excluded from representation in either house of Congress, although, with the single exception of Texas, they have been entirely restored to all their functions as States in conformity with the organic law of the land, and have appeared at the national capital by senators and representatives, who have applied for, and have been refused admission to, the vacant seats. Nor have the sovereign people of the nation been afforded an opportunity of expressing their views upon the important questions which the amendment involves. Grave doubts, therefore, may naturally and justly arise as to whether the action of Congress is in harmony with the sentiments of the people, and whether State legislatures, elected without reference to such an issue, should be called upon by Congress to decide respecting the ratification of the proposed amendment.
Senate Journal --TUESDAY, January 19, 1869.
I accordingly transmit herewith a copy of a proclamation dated the 25th day of December last. The authority of law by which it was made is set forth in the proclamation itself, which expressly affirms that it was issued "by virtue of the power and authority in me vested by the Constitution, and in the name of the sovereign people of the United States," and proclaims and declares "unconditionally, and without reservations, to all and to every person who directly or indirectly participated in the late insurrection or rebellien, a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late civil war, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution, and the laws which have been made in pursuance thereof."
OOPS.......EL'Federale' just became THE sovereign!
Dont ya just luv the way that works?
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