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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 3:51:36 AM   
KurtAllen


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This topic is mainly for the Ladies, but anyone should feel free to post their (hopefully constructive) advice. :)


1-Clearly define your mission before embarking on it and never lose sight of the fact the battle fought the hardest brings the sweetest victory.

2-Be unquestionably committed to and dedicated to enhancing the quality of life in those within your periphery.

3-Hold firmly to the scruples and standards guiding you and conduct yourself in a manner that makes you proud of and respectful of the self of you.

Now I could name many, many more but the question was three.

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 4:36:04 AM   
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Maybe some practical advice from another msub. I'm not pretending to be the "Hitch" of BDSM, I know how hard it is to find a decent Domme if you're in for a serious relationship. This is advice for people trying to find a long lasting relationship with BDSM elements. It is also for people trying to find it on this site. I know everybody's first piece of advice is "go to a munch, to your community", but for me that wasn't so helpful. I'm no geographically located in a country with a big community, and there is still some sort of "fear" of walking into an S&M bar, knowing nobody who's there, so I can understand how going into the real life community might not be the best advice for everyone. I always thought these tips were common knowledge, but apparantly they're not.

1. The soul search
Think what you want and even more important, what you don't want. If you're interested in a real relationship, you'll have to also make it clear to your future Domme what you're not into, and be totally honest with her about this. It is better to turn down (or be turned down) by a Domme who doesn't share your likes and dislikes, then lie to her, fall in love with her (vice versa) and then having to end the relationship because she really likes to pee up your nostrils and you're against it. Well, this is a silly example of course (whether you're in for 24/7 or not would have been a better example), but being able to present yourself as good (as in honest) as possible is a must. If you have no experience, try to find what you think you like and dislike, and tell your Domme up front you have no experience, need to try out things, and you think you like this and this, and dislike that and that but that it is still a journey for you.

2. The iniation of contact
Yes, this is where most subs fail. If you are looking for a relationship you cannot immediately mail the women on here all your fantasies. If your profile contains some fantasies, that's usually enough for them to know in the beginning (PS: make sure your profile is more vanilla than kink). Tell them a bit about who you are (basic info is enough, you don't need to immediately say where your work place is located and how much you make), but also ask them a question about their profile. Even if you already know the answer to that question; it is a sign for the Domme that you have read her profile; and she is not just getting a copy paste message.

Remember the Domme also needs something to reply to, so besides introducing yourself, a question or two for her to answer is also welcome (and don't ask: "Do you spank right or left handed?"). Usually she will also send you some questions too in her next e-mail. Remember, this is like courting a real life woman. And what do women like? (I will get flamed for this by the women here) They like to talk about themselves, so keep asking questions and keep showing interest. Hopefully your interest is genuine, and you're not using this tip to "get some".

3. The first contact
The best tip for getting the first contact is to have real expectations. She's not going to show up dressed in leather, ordering you around. Heck, she might even get her own coffee. A first meeting is often like your first mail, mostly about normal stuff. If she introduces the topic of kink, feel free to respond and tell her, if she doesn't it might not be the best idea to bring it up yourself. This meeting is usually to see if you're a nice guy in real life too, and not just an internet sweet talker. Use this opportunity to prove her you are, because there's usually only one chance for this and if you get their seal of approval, beautiful things might lie in your future. It is not that they wouldn't like to "beat you up" as much as you would like for them to beat you up, but they control themselves to find a decent guy to do it with. And so should you be able to control yourself and get to know the woman before you get to know the Pro Domme. Remember, they're usually not asking you to do something they couldn't do themselves.

Damn, this turned out to be a lot more than my initial three little pieces of advice, so sorry Otters if this didn't reall turn out what you were expecting.

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 12:05:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gedienstig
And so should you be able to control yourself and get to know the woman before you get to know the Pro Domme. Remember, they're usually not asking you to do something they couldn't do themselves.

Somebody just pointed out the mistake here, it should have been "Domme" instead of  "Pro Domme".

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 12:37:37 PM   
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Women aren't like men. Be sensitive to the fact that she will probably want more from you than an arse to shove stuff up and a body to hit.  Be sensitive to the fact that she will probably want more from you than an arse to shove stuff up and a body to hit.


That's made me laugh each time I I've read it.  (Where did you learn to use phrase like 'arse to shove stuff up'?  Disgraceful!)  Though, I think it's possible that there are women who only want to hit or, er, shove, while there are men who can't do without more than that. 

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Have some self respect and some daed standards! Women don't want you to fall at their feet in ecstasy just because they are there and you know they are probably the best you can do at the moment.


That comment has really struck me.  That's actually never crossed my mind before. How horrible for a woman to feel that.   Again, the mismatch in numbers of femdoms to malesubs seems to me to be so damned corrosive.

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 12:55:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Have some self respect and some daed standards! Women don't want you to fall at their feet in ecstasy just because they are there and you know they are probably the best you can do at the moment.


That comment has really struck me.  That's actually never crossed my mind before. How horrible for a woman to feel that.   Again, the mismatch in numbers of femdoms to malesubs seems to me to be so damned corrosive.


This is what always creeps me out about the guys at work. They don't care who or what they are hitting on, as long as it is female (and sometimes, even if it isn't female, but has boobs ...). It always bothers me that they can't even pick ONE thing about the women at the facility ... Old or young, short hair or long hair, fat or thin, black or white or asian or whatever, none of that matters and it always creeps me out. It's beyond desparation and it's just unattractive and always makes me feel a bit slimey when one of the guys starts hitting on me ....

Same with some of the guys here. It's obvious that there is nothing about ME or HOLLY that they are attracted to other than we are female and presumably dominant. Nothing about US that made them decide to message us rather than another Domme or D/D couple ... and then they wonder why I shoot them down and move on.

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 3:54:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Where did you learn to use phrase like 'arse to shove stuff up'?  Disgraceful!
Year 8 history lessons, as it happens; I discovered that my teacher (tiny, lovely little old lady) would burst out in the most undignified laughter if you hit her with an unexpected vulgarity. I've not really stopped using the tactic since. 


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Though, I think it's possible that there are women who only want to hit or, er, shove, while there are men who can't do without more than that. 
Which is why I said 'probably'.

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That comment has really struck me.  That's actually never crossed my mind before. How horrible for a woman to feel that.   Again, the mismatch in numbers of femdoms to malesubs seems to me to be so damned corrosive.
Well, yes and no-it's the woman's decision to allow a man to fall at her feet even though she knows that's what he thinks-it's her responsibility to have self-respect too.

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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 4:52:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
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That comment has really struck me.  That's actually never crossed my mind before. How horrible for a woman to feel that.   Again, the mismatch in numbers of femdoms to malesubs seems to me to be so damned corrosive.


Well, yes and no-it's the woman's decision to allow a man to fall at her feet even though she knows that's what he thinks-it's her responsibility to have self-respect too.


Hmm.  I'm still pursuing the ramifications of that little revelation.  It helps to explain why a Domme who's found the man she wants still needs him to prove himself to her. 

I guess it wouldn't matter how many men go for a particular femdom.  If that femdom doesn't have the internal confidence in herself, it'll still gnaw away at her that her man's 'just making do with her for the time being'. 


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RE: Three things... - 7/10/2010 10:43:30 PM   
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I don't see it as a confidence issue--I KNOW why I get emails and such. It's not wanting to be *interchangeable* that makes us take our time. I really hate being objectified.

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RE: Three things... - 7/11/2010 6:43:34 AM   
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bats her big blue eyes at you... slowly smiles...does the hair flip thing...

wonders if thats shameless enough to be considered flirting.
'draws back the shades to let the sunshine in' MsB.

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RE: Three things... - 7/11/2010 6:58:08 AM   
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That's it. I'm locking this thread until I can get all the poo swept up.

[Edit]- OK, poo swept. Please carry on, but keep it on topic.


Potty mouth.

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