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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/5/2010 11:23:55 AM

Frankseas

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Mostly as others have said it is more a status symbol depending upon that Master. And only his current slave will know if his status as a Master is earned or one that he has given to himself! Nuff said!

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/5/2010 1:56:36 PM

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I'm a tad old fashion in this and many other ways. I earned the title of Master when I collared my first slave. I am still a master but a slaveless one. Our Gorean friends hold that a man who own a slave is a Master and when he has no slave he is Free man and thus the term Master reflects on hos ownership of slaves. However it is custom for a Gorean slave (kajira/kajirus) to refer to all Free men as Masters.

On the other hand, I am the Master of Bruin Cottage (my home) and from a Victorian perspective, this is the correct usage. In others non BDSM or Lifestyle areas I have earned the use of Master in such things as martial arts, calligraphy/illumination (9thC Irish - a-la Book of Kells). I also hold a Masters Degree so in other situations I may be refereed to as Master as I am in lodge too. Thus when the term Master is added on, there may be a good reason for it especially when it has been earned or recognised by one's peer group and other associates/friends in a specific area of which you frequent. Some of coure just slap the title on their ass cheek because it sounds cool and with the false hope it will automatically give them credibility and attract uncollared sub/slaves to kneel at their tootsies

It looks, to me, as if you are truly a master, in many respects. The fact that you do not need to add it to your name only adds to your credibility.

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/5/2010 2:15:20 PM

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Sorry if this question has been asked before. It seems to me that if the term "Master" refers to an orientation or temperment, then everyone with that temperment is automatically entitled to refer to themselves as a Master, regardless of age or level of experience. On the other hand, if the term denotes a status, then a person has to "earn" it, by attaining a certain degree of, well, mastery. i guess the same argument might apply to the term "slave". So, what do you think? Are you born a Master or slave, or do you have to earn the title?

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A Master to me means I don't have to get validated for my decisions to make choices. It's quite the contrary, I look inward for the right answers as they pertain to me.

The only person I need to reconcile anything with is the person in the mirror.

I felt no need to earn it by anyone else's standards. I decided I was worthy and that's all that matters.

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/6/2010 5:57:46 AM

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Sorry if this question has been asked before. It seems to me that if the term "Master" refers to an orientation or temperment, then everyone with that temperment is automatically entitled to refer to themselves as a Master, regardless of age or level of experience. On the other hand, if the term denotes a status, then a person has to "earn" it, by attaining a certain degree of, well, mastery. i guess the same argument might apply to the term "slave". So, what do you think? Are you born a Master or slave, or do you have to earn the title?

pam

pam, It is a term that most who use in in their nick or demand it use in interaction would drop it like a hot potato if they were to be held to the standards that used to be applied to the title..

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/6/2010 6:32:51 AM

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I think very few have earned the title and those who demand you address them that way definately have not.

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/6/2010 7:31:34 AM

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"Dominant" is an orientation. "Master" is a title.

You don't have to earn the title any more than a "Mistress", "Owner", "slave" etc. have to earn theirs. But you do need to earn your partner's devotion and trust every day, just like anyone else.

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RE: Is "Master" an orientation, or a status? - 7/6/2010 1:07:24 PM

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For one who has not mastered themself, it is a title.

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