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Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:00:16 PM   
DemandingOwner1


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Status: offline 		Hi.  I have often used my slave as a footstool, or for holding a tray with my drink, but I am not sure how to incorporate objectification into a general play session.  It seems interesting, as a temporary something to do while watching a movie or reading a book, but not as a primary activity.  Could someone please enlighten me?
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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:21:35 PM   
DarlingSavage


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Objectify my love! 

< Message edited by DarlingSavage -- 7/2/2010 9:22:55 PM >

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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:28:45 PM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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Status: offline 		Train her to be a Personal Assistant.

Make her Life LITERALLY being your Day Planner.

OR

Have her keep a Pen in her Bra. She will be your Pen Holder. If you are into degradation you can tell her that is all she is good for and maybe if she shapes up she can one day keep your paperclips.

Personally I don't care for Objectification even in small doses I would never want to do so as an Ongoing activity.

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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:37:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was a game that used to be played in the 1700's(?)

A woman would turn her body into a replica of a famous painting or sculpture until someone guessed who it was. Then the person would change shapes.

Absolute objectification. mmm hmmm.

(Too erudite?) - thanks for the word, sexyred.

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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:44:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is also sexual objectification... which can be oh so much fun

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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:48:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh Julia... whatever do you mean? Could you explain please? In great detail...

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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 9:50:11 PM   
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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 10:05:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Oh Julia... whatever do you mean? Could you explain please? In great detail...


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RE: Objectification - 7/2/2010 10:21:04 PM   
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I am blushing from my perverted thoughts


Chicken! 


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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 4:04:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		A few years back I came across an article in a magazine about this Russian designer who was experimenting with zentai suits. I was really fascinated by the anonymity that it provided visually. I never really did much about it, but last year I tracked down a maker of these suits in Hong Kong who made really nice ones for a pretty fair (read: comparatively inexpensive) price.

I went to a Halloween munch party in this outfit, and went through periods where I wouldn't say a word. The munch was in a private room of a bar/restaurant, and the hostess (who had been drinking FAR too much already - it was that sort of place) was really animated about how I looked, it really bothered her immensely (which was rather the effect I was going for.

In the end, I was entered into the bar's costume contest (much to my chagrine), and was deemed 2nd place. They announced that my costume was actually the best, but too creepy to be awarded the winner. That made my night!

Zentai often looks something like this..... http://www.clamlynch.com/blog/uploaded_images/zentai001.jpg

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 4:19:24 AM   
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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 4:23:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DemandingOwner1

Hi.  I have often used my slave as a footstool, or for holding a tray with my drink, but I am not sure how to incorporate objectification into a general play session.  It seems interesting, as a temporary something to do while watching a movie or reading a book, but not as a primary activity.  Could someone please enlighten me?


There was a time I thought it'd be hot to truss the girl up as decorative furniture while I watched a particular movie or the footy or whatever that she likely wouldn't wanna watch anyway....

Trouble was I'd miss it myself 'cause I spent the time entranced with her. Stupid Dom-space....

For me, seems objectifying my girl works better with something pro-active rather than passive (like furniture).

Focus.

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 1:51:15 PM   
DemandingOwner1


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Status: offline 		Thank you for all your responses.  A few comments and questions:

1)  The suit is cool, but it sort of creeps me out;
2)  I agree with Focus, I also kept losing my place in my book or movie when I was using my slave for a footstool.  Must work on self-discipline;
3)  Focus, could you please elaborate on a pro-active object?  I am possibly missing the point, but almost by definition an object is inanimate. 

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 2:03:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

There was a game that used to be played in the 1700's(?)

A woman would turn her body into a replica of a famous painting or sculpture until someone guessed who it was. Then the person would change shapes.

Absolute objectification. mmm hmmm.

(Too erudite?) - thanks for the word, sexyred.


Yeah, too erudite. I am sure he is looking for something more down to earth.

Being a footstool or end table is not hot to me. Sexual objectification, now there's a topic...

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 2:33:05 PM   
DemandingOwner1


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Status: offline 		Thank you, sexyred.  Yes, I am looking for some practical suggestions, rather than generic concepts.

Here is how I have thought about objectification:  It is something that happens between active bouts of interaction.  When my slave kneels down in a low posture, naked, so I can place my feet on her back while I read or think, I have her completely under control, I can keep her from getting distracted by other things and perfectly focused on me, requiring her not to take her eyes off of me while she is there.  It is almost like an extended period of bondage with the benefit of physical contact, but allowing me to accomplish other things as well.  When I am through with whatever I need to read, I normally allow her to worship me with her mouth.  

What I am wondering about is what objectification means in a more active context, that is when my attention is focused on her?

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 3:29:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		What you want is sexual objectification (which several people have suggested), if you want active. Objects, by definition, generally don't move (unless battery powered). If you want to objectify your slave in a hot way where both of you are active and focused, turn her into a sex toy, or a blow up doll. Make her feel (through words and what you do) that she's literally three holes that only exist as a place to...er...leave your seminal fluids.

I was trying to make that sound a tiny bit less dirty, but I don't think it worked

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 3:33:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DemandingOwner1


2)  I agree with Focus, I also kept losing my place in my book or movie when I was using my slave for a footstool.  Must work on self-discipline;

Dom-space is for enjoying so I wouldn't "work" too hard on defeating the purpose of it.... Just recognise the likelihood of what'll probably happen and plan accordingly as to what you really wanna achieve.


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3)  Focus, could you please elaborate on a pro-active object?  I am possibly missing the point, but almost by definition an object is inanimate. 

I meant myself not being passive - the girl doesn't have a lot of options once she's tied up. I still do the decorative furniture thing, I just don't kid myself I'll actually get to absorb that which I'm supposedly watching (other than her). So if it really is the big game on tv, I've learnt to tape it while "watching"....

So yeah, objectify her while keeping yourself preoccupied (with her). Stay in your zone for the scene and treat her like meat. Meat doesn't have feelings or a life outside the moment, meat doesn't need to see what's happening, maybe doesn't need to hear anything, either. Or gag her if your meat doesn't have to talk (then maybe make her talk anyway, ie answer questions etc).

And you can still do the furniture thing, just make it practical furniture rather than decorative. IE, I've sometimes strapped her over my A frame to use as a table then actually layed out lunch on her back. Note; no matter how securely she's held, put any drinks on a real table - esp if you're inclined to mess with her intimate bits while eating. lol

Focus.

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 3:37:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I enjoy objectification. I made a wooden flogger rack that I can hang off of someone and use them to store my toys while I play with another. Depending on my mood and goal, I can allow them to watch/force them to watch, or I can blindfold them to save them from watching or deny them the pleasure of watching.

Not only is it fun, it is handy as hell because I don't have to dig through a toybag for stuff.

I agree with Focus on this one, its hard to find a place to make one an object because then one becomes interested in the object. I was thinking about putting someone naked in a box while the game is on (I never watch sports so perhaps a good movie) and invite a bunch of vanilla friends over and make no mention of her. Then I started thinking about a remote vibrator ... and voila, back to actively engaging.

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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 3:40:26 PM   
DarlingSavage


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I was trying to make that sound a tiny bit less dirty, but I don't think it worked


The dirtier, the better, that's what I always say!  Plus, it sounded very hot! 


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RE: Objectification - 7/3/2010 3:41:25 PM   
DemandingOwner1


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Status: offline 		Good points both of you.  Look forward to including the suggestions.  Thanks.

Have a great 4th E/everyone.

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