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Ligeia72 -> Top Drop (7/2/2010 1:47:24 AM)
Because it was raised on another thread, and may be of interest/benefit... ~~~~~~~~~~ Top Drop: Do you experience it? What does it feel like to you? Do you require aftercare? What sort of aftercare/how much do you need? Anything else you want to add? ~~~~~~~~~~ I shall be back with my answers just as soon as I've finished getting Dinner ready. [:)]

ShoreBound149 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 2:08:21 AM)
I get muscle spasms, slight head twitching and occasional involuntary flatulence. For aftercare I have her make me a meatball sandwich.

Ligeia72 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 2:14:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149 For aftercare I have her make me a meatball sandwich. And how's that working for you? [;)]

ShoreBound149 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 3:07:38 AM)
If the Yanks are on....I have a cigar and glass of good bourbon....I somehow am able to recover.

allthatjaz -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 3:15:26 AM)
I have had top drop and I think its very different to sub drop. Sometimes I get high when I'm dominating. I have had a few people say that my eyes change color! I think my pupils dilate making my eyes appear darker. When I'm high from this I don't go all gaga but feel energized and incredibly tuned in with the person I am dominating. It leaves me feeling euphoric, sometimes for days but I have never yet had Domme drop when I come down from the rush of this. When I first started dominating and felt unsure of what I was doing, I sometimes felt the drop afterward's. I would be questioning my ability, wondering what he/she really felt. When I became more confident with my tools I sometimes wondered if I had overstepped the mark and if you start worrying about that then it will lead to a low.

Ligeia72 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 3:31:52 AM)
Ok, answering the questions for myself [:)] Do you experience it? Not currently involved/active in any form of play, but yes I have experienced this before. Or at least what I perceive/believe to be 'Top Drop'. What does it feel like to you? Hard to describe. A physical feeling of nervous excitable energy, feeling driven with no where to go, a sense of frustration/limitation/something not quite whole or complete. Almost a manic kind of feeling in a way. Often followed by a downwards swing in mood, feeling quiet, withdrawn, etc. Do you require aftercare? I don't 'require' it perse, but I do prefer it. I do have some energy grounding meditations/rituals I can utilise to take care of myself if the bottom is really opposed to any sort of aftercare, but my preference is for their to be at least some. What sort of aftercare/how much do you need? See above reply re energy grounding meditations/rituals. After/beyond that, just spending some time after the scene reconnecting, making small talk, sitting together, being mundane in the moment (if that makes sense?). Anything else you want to add? not that I can think of off the top of my head. [:)]

LadyPact -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 7:58:20 AM)
Top Drop: Do you experience it? Yes, I do. It isn't necessarily an automatic result. In other words, I have plenty of times that I hit top space without having an drop at all. It isn't dependent on how far I go into top space or it's duration. Generally, it has much more to do with how well I take care of Myself before and after play. What does it feel like to you? It feels like a bit of depression. That I'm sad or weepy. Do you require aftercare? Yes, but I can still experience drop even if there's been aftercare involved. What sort of aftercare/how much do you need? I'm generally good with just a short bit physical embracing immediately after the scene. The key for Me is to make sure I'm hydrated, not hungry, and I get plenty of rest. This is especially true if I've done a long scene that involved a lot of impact play and been physically working hard swinging floggers for a couple of hours. The more exercise I've gotten, the more chance that I'm going to need rest. Anything else you want to add? Yes. From the way your questions are posed here, I think you may be getting the wrong impression of what drop actually is for some folks. All drop really amounts to is the brain readjusting chemically to the pleasure centers no longer being flooded with endorphins. That isn't necessarily immediate after play has stopped. For example, I'll remain in top space for a good while after I'm done playing. If it's been a really good scene or I've played with multiple people, I can still be in top space well into the next day. The endorphins are still flowing fast for Me long after the scene is over. I'm usually flying the highest after the play has actually stopped and I'm just relaxing. I no longer have to concentrate and can just float. If I'm going to experience drop, it's generally going to be the next day when My brain is becoming adjusted to what is really the 'normal' state of endorphin flow. Even though it's only going back to the regular state, the pleasure centers are getting fewer of the endorphins that I've been producing like crazy for the pleasure receptors. I've had a duration that I'm incredibly happy and in contrast, it may feel like I'm sad. By the way, two of the best ways to 'trick' your brain during drop for females are orgasms and chocolate. Both also produce higher endorphin levels as you're getting back to your 'normal' state. [/quote]

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 10:13:44 AM)
I really don't seem to get any kind of mental drop. But then, I experience "topspace" as a kind of supercharged cheerfulness...odd, but the best descriptor I have. [:)] I don't produce endorphins the way regular folks do, and my high comes from adrenaline, if it's going to be there at all. I make sure that I have lots of ice water for ME to drink during a scene, and that my emergency inhaler is close by. I am not sure that I have ever gotten anything like aftercare... or that I ever sought it out. I am hanging with my playmate, doing whatever her or she requires to feel safe and recover well, then the equipment cleaning and toy-putting-away (I always pack my own toybag) Then I want snacks.

DesFIP -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 10:20:21 AM)
He needs a lot of water. But I usually bring that in before we begin to play so it's right there. And he needs to not be touched because he's too hot. He'll cuddle me for a minute or two with me under the blanket and him on top, but then gets up because he's too hot. After I get up, either we go out and get something to eat or I make it here.

IronBear -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 11:45:55 AM)
I never really analysed it or thought much about it but Aye I do get a high and often as randy as all get out. For me a hot shower followed by two minutes under a cold shower (habit from decades of ritual) and then a hot black sweet coffee and perhaps a good cognac

aldompdx -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 12:22:17 PM)
Top Drop -- "I have spent too much energy focusing on somebody other than myself, and now need to resume my narcissistic tendencies." As with excellence in any skill which requires practice, discipline, stamina, or emotional intelligence: one "recovers" from top drop by gaining the skill and endurance to not get exhausted in the first place. That is, by learning how to be more empathic and less narcissistic.

LPslittleclip -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 8:35:37 PM)
as my Mistress said the important thing is to make sure She gets food and water as soon after play and check in with Her in the morning. the next day can be nearly as fun as during. the chemical imbalance of the endorphin rush and the recovery is what causes the drop but it affects every one in a different way but it is something that the subs need to support for their Mistress/Master.

Ligeia72 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 10:13:04 PM)
quote: Anything else you want to add? Yes. From the way your questions are posed here, I think you may be getting the wrong impression of what drop actually is for some folks. All drop really amounts to is the brain readjusting chemically to the pleasure centers no longer being flooded with endorphins. That isn't necessarily immediate after play has stopped. For example, I'll remain in top space for a good while after I'm done playing. If it's been a really good scene or I've played with multiple people, I can still be in top space well into the next day. The endorphins are still flowing fast for Me long after the scene is over. I'm usually flying the highest after the play has actually stopped and I'm just relaxing. I no longer have to concentrate and can just float. If I'm going to experience drop, it's generally going to be the next day when My brain is becoming adjusted to what is really the 'normal' state of endorphin flow. Even though it's only going back to the regular state, the pleasure centers are getting fewer of the endorphins that I've been producing like crazy for the pleasure receptors. I've had a duration that I'm incredibly happy and in contrast, it may feel like I'm sad. By the way, two of the best ways to 'trick' your brain during drop for females are orgasms and chocolate. Both also produce higher endorphin levels as you're getting back to your 'normal' state. Ah, ok, so what I thought was part of 'Top Drop' sounds like it was actually a continuation of Top space with the drop coming much later. I haven't had the opportunity to engage in any sort of (partnered) play for years now. Prior to that I had the occasional opportunity, but I've never been what you might call a 'hardcore' or 'prolific' BDSM'er, and I've never been part of the local BDSM scene. I knew about subspace both from experiencing it, and from talking to a partner, but I didn't know about Top Space/Top Drop until roughly 6 months ago. Or rather I knew what they felt like, and I knew, or had figured out how to deal with it, I just didn't know there was any sort of name. I was reading an online article that talked about Top Space/Drop and it was like lightbulb Ah-ha, so that's what was happening to me all those times. Anyway, cool, thanks for posting that, that certainly helps me get a better perspective/understanding. [:)]

Nineveh -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 10:13:42 PM)
For me I have a tendency to feel very guilty right after a good scene. I don't know if top drop is the right word or not, it may be due to the cessation of endorphins, it may be due to something else. I do need aftercare. What I need is some time to connect with whoever I have just been playing with. To make sure that what i did was welcomed and fulfilled her as well. This can come through cuddling, or conversation, or sex, just something relatively intimate to let me know that she liked being abused as much as I liked abusing her.

Ligeia72 -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 10:29:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineveh For me I have a tendency to feel very guilty right after a good scene. Ditto. That's what I always put my afterplay experience down to as well, that it was 1) Excess psychic/spiritual energies raised that needed to be grounded, and 2) Me processing feelings of guilt - the whole dynamic of...'I thought I was a nice person, I step over ants nests, and catch and release bugs and spiders in my house rather than killing them, and everything. I'm just one big fluffy marshmallow of goodness, and yet I've just whipped/caned/belted/tormented/whatever this person in front of me. Does not compute. [&:]'

MagiksSlave -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 11:11:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149 I get muscle spasms, slight head twitching and occasional involuntary flatulence. For aftercare I have her make me a meatball sandwich. Thats probubly not good for the flatulence!

heartcream -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 11:28:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149 If the Yanks are on....I have a cigar and glass of good bourbon....I somehow am able to recover. Then the Jays win...

chiaThePet -> RE: Top Drop (7/2/2010 11:38:10 PM)
From a ten story complex, the splatter patterns can be quite spectacular. What? chia* (the pet)

Nineveh -> RE: Top Drop (7/3/2010 12:38:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ligeia72 quote: ORIGINAL: Nineveh For me I have a tendency to feel very guilty right after a good scene. Ditto. That's what I always put my afterplay experience down to as well, that it was 1) Excess psychic/spiritual energies raised that needed to be grounded, and 2) Me processing feelings of guilt - the whole dynamic of...'I thought I was a nice person, I step over ants nests, and catch and release bugs and spiders in my house rather than killing them, and everything. I'm just one big fluffy marshmallow of goodness, and yet I've just whipped/caned/belted/tormented/whatever this person in front of me. Does not compute. [&:]' And I made her cry, and she's pretty obviously in pain, and I laughed at her while I did it and, shit, maybe I am a bad person.......

Ligeia72 -> RE: Top Drop (7/3/2010 12:47:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineveh quote: ORIGINAL: Ligeia72 Ditto. That's what I always put my afterplay experience down to as well, that it was 1) Excess psychic/spiritual energies raised that needed to be grounded, and 2) Me processing feelings of guilt - the whole dynamic of...'I thought I was a nice person, I step over ants nests, and catch and release bugs and spiders in my house rather than killing them, and everything. I'm just one big fluffy marshmallow of goodness, and yet I've just whipped/caned/belted/tormented/whatever this person in front of me. Does not compute. [&:]' And I made her cry, and she's pretty obviously in pain, and I laughed at her while I did it and, shit, maybe I am a bad person....... nods ...but wait, she did consent, and I made sure I paid attention to her body language, and checked in with her to make sure she was still liking it. feels confused [&:]

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