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KneelingSub25 -> The Game (6/21/2010 2:45:33 PM)

I would like to say a few words about some of the women I've encountered on this site.   A disclaimer first: I am not doing this to express outrage over perceived slights.  I also refuse to generalize, so you won't find me drawing wider implications from what I have experienced. 

My complex feelings on the matter are more akin to disappointment than to resentment.  As such, you won't find me singling out women by name.  Doing so would be unseemly and counterproductive. 

I will say this: of the several years that I have been on this site,  I've met many women who were interested in neither friendships nor relationships. 

Instead, they were interested in playing a game.  The game involved seeing what they could get from the other person. 

Sometimes this game involved getting money.  Very often it involved just trying to get a reaction, or non-reaction, from the other person. 

Typically the game involved the implementation of various tests or measures with which to supposedly "evaluate" the merits of a man who was quite obviously approaching them in earnest.

Quite often these experiments involved seeing how well (or poorly) the man would respond to obvious provocations.  In other words, how far would the man be willing to "go" in order to continue the game?

Would he respond in kind?  Would he pretend to ignore the provocations?  Would he show even greater devotion?  Would he be willing to silently endure the degrading treatment?

Of course, from the woman's perspective, there is no "right" way for the man to play the game.  The point of the game, after all, is not to discover the strengths of the man but to reveal his weaknesses. 

If the man were to demonstrate greater devotion, this would only "prove" that the man is spineless and undiscriminating. 

If the man were to pretend to ignore the provocations, this would suggest that the man is unperceptive, uninteresting, or cowardly. 

If the man were to respond in kind, this would imply that the man is violent or emotionally unstable. 

If the man silently endures the treatment, then it becomes a test to see how long the man can "take it" before breaking, or before the woman loses interest.    

If you are one of the women who has been, or is currently, playing these kinds of games, ostensibly to weed out the "unfit," I believe you should seriously reconsider the utility of your methods. 

Please ask yourselves whether you have ever encountered men in your lives who have played these kinds of games with women.  Were these healthy men?  Were these healthy interactions?  What kind of relationship or friendship could possibly come out of this kind of behavior?  

I believe that many women on here have been hurt by men in the past. They are playing these filtering games to protect themselves from making the same mistakes in the future. 

Instead of immediately trying to find out whether a man possesses the same personality flaws as the unhealthy men in your past, why not let the process of getting to know the man progress naturally?

A great many of you are unwittingly throwing out the baby with the bathwater. 




DarkSteven -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 2:50:45 PM)

I'm glad that you did avoid mentioning anybody by name. That would have violated TOS.

A lot of profiles here are set up by shills for sites and scammers.

On what way did you feel others provoked you?




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:19:34 PM)

Sorry, dude, you're still whining. You're entitled to how you feel, of course, but why did this kind of thing happen SO OFTEN? Once would be enough for you to see what's going on, I would imagine. Most folks running scams are not rockert scientists.

Dominant women are WOMEN. Try approaching one as a woman first, and see what happens. If you get a stereotype in return, there's your clue.




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:33:56 PM)

Whining?  Hardly.  Just incisive commentary. 




LadyPact -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:34:48 PM)

As one of the Dominant women on this site who is specifically interested in friendships and/or relationships, I want to redirect a question to the OP.

How many of these women are you meeting in person?

I'm not asking you that to be a smart ass.  I'm asking you because it sounds very much like you are conducting all of this online, and not to a very constructive end.

Believe it or not, you're also playing the game.  Have you considered the fact that you're not doing everything that you could be to realize your own goal?  Literally, you've been here for years, and this is your first forum post.  Did it ever occur to you that the friendships that you might want to establish could possibly be found here on the forum side?

Perhaps you should take a look at your own methods as well.




divi -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:36:09 PM)

As a submissive woman, you sound annoying




DarlingSavage -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:40:14 PM)

OMG!  What is the world coming to?  Will we never be rid of all these liars, fakers and scammers?  I don't think I can bear to go on another single day knowing the world is rife with liars, fakers, and scammers.  Goodbye, cruel world!




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:40:36 PM)

It may well be true that I would have had better luck on the forum, but that is irrelevant to the point that I was making.  Also, whether or not I am "annoying" is similarly irrelevant to the point I was making. 




divi -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:42:52 PM)

imo this sub should get up, I'd kick him for all his whining




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:46:24 PM)

Given that you are admittedly "insane," perhaps I should take that as a compliment.  




AAkasha -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:48:06 PM)



It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.  You are enduring "game players" because you believe the fantasy or the lie they are telling despite your bigger head telling you to get out.  You could have cut them off early. How long does it take to tell?  You need to work on your perception skills.  You are attracting the wrong type, enduring their games (willingly) too long, and perhaps just engaging in it because it excites you on some level. 

I know a male sub who has met several potential femdoms since we started talking on a regular basis. He never runs into any of these game players.  Perhaps you need to just fine tune your partner-picking-skills?

Akasha




mstrjx -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:50:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KneelingSub25

Whether or not I am "annoying" is similarly irrelevant to the point I was making. 



Actually, you're just fine. It's your point that's annoying.

Jeff




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:51:24 PM)

Your point is well taken, Akasha.

In my defense, I am thinking with my "bigger head" when I engage them. 




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:56:34 PM)

Annoying or inconvenient, Jeff?  There's a difference. 




peppermint -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 3:57:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KneelingSub25

It may well be true that I would have had better luck on the forum, but that is irrelevant to the point that I was making.  Also, whether or not I am "annoying" is similarly irrelevant to the point I was making. 



What is relevant to this discussion is what is common between you and all these gamers you seem to attract.  It's YOU.  Every time it's YOU who has to decide if this person is what you are seeking.  The gamers can't force you to do something you don't want to do, especially online.  Apparently you lack the ability to separate game players from others.  You can't blame the game players for your own lacks.  If you haven't learned your lesson over a period of years, then there is not much that whining (and it IS whining, not incisive commentary) in the forums is going to do for you. 





BonesFromAsh -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 4:00:28 PM)

OP,

I'll ask the same question LadyPact did, how many of these women are you meeting in person?

After viewing your profile...which, by the way, has some weird text/font/script thingy going on....and reading what you're actively seeking, I'm curious to read the answer to the question before I say anything else.




sweetsub1957 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 4:01:44 PM)

~FR~
Wow. i've met some really weird and annoying men on here ,too, so i can understand your frustration up to a point. But i don't get on the boards whining & griping about them, telling them to change. Just a quick observation.....the common denominator in those encounters is.......OMG! You!!

~sweetsub~




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 4:02:54 PM)

KneelingSub25,

Based on my interactions with a few women that were playing "the game" as you phrase it. In each and every single case, they had been badly hurt in previous relationships, their own sense of self esteem was hurting, they compensated or attempted to compensate for it by pretending to be somebody or some thing they were not. In many regards, the attention they got made them feel better about themselves in the short term, yet gradually more like shit in the long haul.

Again, I'm only posting this based on my limited interaction with a few women that were playing "the game" that you more less described in your OP.

I will sincerely express this to you, that none of these women were using this as a sincere screening method or tactic. If anything they were not sincerely looking for a seriously relationship but rather something to fill a void in their life.

The biggest mistake women or anybody playing "the game" can make is believing that they will be able to keep it up. Sooner or later those that are playing "the game" encounter somebody geniune that they develop feelings and thoughts for. By that time, they have realized how much they have trapped or boxed themselves into a corner.




KneelingSub25 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 4:05:39 PM)

I've met a fair number in person and--for the most part--my meetings with them have gone fairly well.  With one or two notable exceptions, I am not referring to the ones I've met in person when I speak of the "game."  Instead, I am referring specifically to women on Collar Me who believe they must subject a submissive to a series of "tests" or "challenges," if you will, to see if he is up to snuff. 

At this point, it is critical to the discussion to note the number of unfounded assumptions people have made about me already. 




lally2 -> RE: The Game (6/21/2010 4:09:40 PM)

FR:

just my thoughts but why on earth would you care to prove youreself one way or the other to these people.  if they start playing stupid games just tell them to go away and bother someone else, block them if they persist.





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