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LafayetteLady -> The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 4:47:39 PM)

Life with my son has never been smooth, and as a teenager, I'm sure many of you share the pain of finding out how "stupid" you are, because of course, your teenager knows EVERYTHING now and your reign as the "Cool Mom" ends as your teen become embarassed by your clothes, walks 10' in front of you at the store, won't give you a hug or kiss in front of their friends, and finds spending time with their friends far more interesting than doing anything with you.

Anyway, the point of the above is that my "know it all" just turned 17. During the course of this just completed school year, he was in Driver's Education. We live in NJ and 17 is when you get your driver's license, 16 1/2 for the permit (after Driver's Ed and 6 hours of professional training). Well, my son determined that there was nothing his Driver's Ed teacher could teach him so he dropped the course. Naturally, he then proceeded to complain about how all of his friend's had permits (and were getting a good portion of the behind the wheel experience in my car) and he couldn't drive. The lesson of "natural consequences" in action.

Earlier this month my son turned 17. Today he woke me up at an unGodly hour to go take his written test which he had studied for all last night and this morning until he could wait no longer. Off we go to the DMV (now called the MVC for no logical reason). We all know how that works. Fill out this form, take it to that window, proceed to that desk, get a number, wait to be called, go to this window, move on to the next line, get your eyes checked, go to computer 2, touch the screen and hope for the best.

As my son is taking the test, I approach the one desk to ask the worker a question. Ok, I wanted to peer around the corner and see if I could tell how things were going. Oh boy, it's gonna be a bad day I think as I watch my son stupid slap himself in the head and vigorously shake his head back and forth in frustration over some question.

I step outside to have a smoke and pass the time. When I come back in, he is back at the last window talking with the worker. He sees me, and breaks out in a huge smile. He PASSED! By one point, but he passed. Most of his friends failed the first time, so he's on top of the world and of course begging for the keys, lol.

He drives us home, taking the long way of course and it isn't so bad, thank goodness. He had a IEP test to complete at school, so we go there even though he just wants to drive. He tells me he has plans later, and I tell him that's fine, whenever he wants to drive let me know.

Well, forget the plans, he calls after the test and wants to go highway driving. I had two girlfriends over, who both chose to come along for the ride.

Well, what a ride it was! Either he doesn't want to turn onto the street because the car 1/2 a mile away is coming, or he will risk it when there is a car right on top of us. As he turns his head one way, his hands turn the wheel the other way as if they are connected and can not move independently. He doesn't do TOO bad on the highway for a first day driver, but then he turns into the mall, so we can cut through and take the back roads home (rush hour is beginning).

I can say with complete certainty that we WILL NOT be working on his driving skills at the mall ever again! He is driving and a car up ahead is stopped. I'm waiting, waiting and waiting some more for him to either move to go around him on the right or slow down. Nothing. His eyes are on the road ahead, and must see this car in front and the bright brake lights. After all, I am blind as a bat and I could see them.

Finally I can't wait anymore, and I point out the car in front of him in a calm voice. Apparently, he was off somewhere else, because he didn't even respond. Then we move on to "car stop, stop! STOP, CAR!" as I reach over to grab the wheel in case I need to try and steer us around it at the last minute. At last he sees the car and swerves around, with barely any room to spare. My friends in the back and I are now laughing hysterically and making every joke we can think of about his driving and trying to kill us. Two of the three of us ladies have multiple injuries already and we don't need anymore!

Then there is the issue of coming to a stop. Apparently he seems to think that you wait until the last minute and rely on the brakes to bring you to a halt as close to the bumper of the car in front as possible. Let's not forget the turns in the road. Now most of us know you brake going into the turn and accelerate on the way out. Not him, he is doing it reversed, even though each an every time I nearly end up in his lap, I remind him.

The most fun of the day though was when we were trying to merge. I'm sure most of you have either seen, or played the game of who is going to merge where. You know, you don't leave room for someone to go in front of you, or you try to get in front of them. Well, my son, having seen me do it many times thinks he is ready to play. Of course, at 17 you are invincible and afraid of nothing and hell, it isn't his car anyway as he keeps trying to edge someone out on the right. My window and the other car's window is open. I've had more than enough for the day, my already painful back is in knots from the stress of my baby's first day on the road. So I turn to the man in the other car and politely tell him "This is my son's very first day driving, so you might want to reconsider trying to get in front of us for everyone's safety!" He smiles (he must be a father who has already suffered this fate) and let's us go.

Now my son was SURE I would be yelling at him at every turn. Throughout the day, the only time I yelled was with the stopped car, so I think I did really well. Honestly though, I don't know how I am going to do this for the next six months! I could feel my blood pressure rising each time I needed him to put on the brakes, lol.

I know our children must grow up. Mine has chosen to do so far too quickly. First he gets his girlfriend (who truly is no where near good enough for him) pregnant, and now he is driving.

So please everyone, pray to whoever you pray to that I survive the next six months and remain calm, cool and collected while my 17 year old learns that he is not trying to qualify for the Daytona 500 and it is the other people on the road that he must pay the most attention to.




angelikaJ -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 5:50:13 PM)

You will survive (probably [;)]) and for the next 6 months or so you have a huge bargaining chip: the permit.


When he is 'of age' you will likewise have some power re: the license.

It is time for him to show responsibility and show he is capable of being a responsible son, a responsible young man ... perhaps before he can show you he can be a responsible driver.

Actions have consequences and he has a lot to prove it seems.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:01:11 PM)

The first time I let my son get behind the wheel. he pulled out in front of someone.  I closed my eyes, and braced for the impact.  Still aint sure how they missed us, but I figured after that, we could only go up!

It is the only time I wished his sperm donor was around, since he had taught his 2 older kids how to drive.

All I can say is xanax......thank gawd for xanax.  My kids 22 now, and we survived.

Good luck!




pahunkboy -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:03:51 PM)

Braking.

I was taught to test the brake.

But some think that is not a good idea. 

since he figured out how to get her pregnant- maybe he can figure out- how to efficiently drive- work and pick up his room.

Here- have another cracker jack.  lol




LafayetteLady -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:22:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

You will survive (probably [;)]) and for the next 6 months or so you have a huge bargaining chip: the permit.

When he is 'of age' you will likewise have some power re: the license.

It is time for him to show responsibility and show he is capable of being a responsible son, a responsible young man ... perhaps before he can show you he can be a responsible driver.

Actions have consequences and he has a lot to prove it seems.


I can honestly say that he has shown some responsibility. Otherwise, I wouldn't have taken him. We already went down that particularly road, lol.

It was, all in all a rather great day. On the way to take the test, he knew I hadn't had time to eat, so he bought me a breakfast sandwich (ok, he ate half of it, but I couldn't eat the whole thing, lol). He also put ten bucks worth of gas in because he knows I have a very limited gas budget. We've had so many problems in the last year, things are just calming down and we are not arguing constantly. The up side of this is that because he wants to drive all the time is that I will actually get to spend a lot more time with him!

On the other issue, besides being far to young to be a grandmother, I am very proud of how he has stepped up to the plate on the issue. He really would have preferred that she terminate the pregnancy and knew this is not the time in his life to have a child, but as a male, he doesn't really have a choice. Since he has gotten a job, is saving money, is planning on joining the military (my hope is the Navy) and talking about college. He will undoubtedly be a much better father than the girl a mother (as she won't be the center of attention anymore). He recognizes that his relationship with the girl will probably not last forever, a big reason being having a child so young, but he will not be his father and walk away.

So all in all, while the driving left a bit to be desired, it was literally his first day, and even then it could have been worse. Hell, some of his friends did MUCH worse and they had taken the 6 hours of professional training!




LafayetteLady -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:26:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

The first time I let my son get behind the wheel. he pulled out in front of someone.  I closed my eyes, and braced for the impact.  Still aint sure how they missed us, but I figured after that, we could only go up!

It is the only time I wished his sperm donor was around, since he had taught his 2 older kids how to drive.

All I can say is xanax......thank gawd for xanax.  My kids 22 now, and we survived.

Good luck!


I know how you feel! I didn't close my eyes, but I did find myself trying to two foot it through the floorboard in the hopes that I miraculously developed my own set of brakes!

I would HATE to have his father teach him! His dad wrecked MY car when we were married and crashed two of the dumped trucks he was driving at his job at that time, lol.

The really funny thing is that today he was getting instructed by 3 women, and for the most part, all of his instruction will come from women drivers.

Yes, my friend has offered some tranquilizers, but they would only be useful AFTER each lesson. It was glaringly obvious that I must have all my wits about me with him behind the wheel.




LadyPact -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:52:38 PM)

Thank you for sharing this.  I know your pain.

Quite frankly, I suck at this.  It used to make Me nervous as hell when it came to driving lessons.  I'm going to go for the cop out and say that I'm a Dominant, so I must be a control freak.  LOL.  Seriously, I made clip do some of the road time.  I figured we were all better off.

In fact, clip wasn't nervous at all about the time he spent on the passenger side of the seat.  The story was a little different when he was teaching his own.  My theory on this is, somewhere, in the back of the brain, you remember all of the dumb things your kid did growing up.  That translates to the fear that comes out when they are the ones driving the car.






DesFIP -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 6:57:43 PM)

He quit drivers ed? Make him get a job and pay the ten percent extra in insurance that will cost you.

Wait till it comes to taking the road test. Parallel parking is the downfall of every kid I know.

But thankfully we're in farm country. Kids here start by driving lawn mowers, atv's, tractors and so on long before they get out on the road.

And I made The Man take him out on the highway drive because I knew that my nervousness would make him crazy.




pahunkboy -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 7:21:17 PM)

Think of the car ride as like bumper cars at an amusement park.   lol




LafayetteLady -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 9:37:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

He quit drivers ed? Make him get a job and pay the ten percent extra in insurance that will cost you.

Wait till it comes to taking the road test. Parallel parking is the downfall of every kid I know.

But thankfully we're in farm country. Kids here start by driving lawn mowers, atv's, tractors and so on long before they get out on the road.

And I made The Man take him out on the highway drive because I knew that my nervousness would make him crazy.


He has been working for several months, and saving for a car and of course the baby. He knows I won't be able to afford his insurance anyway. Like I said earlier, I'm not thrilled about the baby, but we are making the best of it. One of the positive outcomes has been that he seems to have really started to becoming much more responsible and more focused.

Actually the first time he was behind the wheel of a car, he was three years old. We were on vacation with my mom at a resort in the poconos. It was all private property and driving back from the pool, he sat on my lap and took the wheel. Of course, he did what every small child does while pretending to drive, moving the wheel back and forth. Lasted about 20 seconds, then he saw a deer and got distracted. That was when he said "Mommy, I'm too young to drive." My mother and I laughed and told him that he was quite correct. But it was a private road with no other cars and he wanted to do it. It had been a rough year, our house had burned down and we moved about 4 times in 6 months waiting for the house to be rebuilt.

I thought it would be much more difficult than it was to be honest. For his very first time on the road, he didn't do too bad. He wants to learn to drive a stick, which I agree he should. Problem is that we don't have a manual transmission available for me to teach him. I'll have to figure that one out.

LP, I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to my son, but in reverse. I don't want anyone else teaching him how to drive. In my experience, every time someone else has tried to teach him anything (outside of his school teachers), they made a mess of things. His father was "teaching" how to shoot a BB gun years ago. Totally skipped gun safter, and in fact the dope shot the gun into something that the BB ricocheted and came back and hit him. Later in Scouts, I taught him how to do it correctly.




KyttynTheMynx -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/18/2010 9:49:23 PM)

Awww. This brings back fond memories. The wind in my hair. The feeling of freedom. My mama going into cardiac arrest before I made it out of the drive way, the way she broke the "Oh Shit Handle" off the door, and then came home and doped herself up on meds...Good times!

Good luck! This will be a great memory to share with the new family member when he/she is older!




porcelaine -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 1:36:31 AM)

Wow. You had one heck of a day! I'd probably have freaked out in your shoes. Only in my case we'd be in dire straits. I don't drive. My daughter went through this as well, but she didn't receive behind the wheel training due to her athletic responsibilities. I think she's going to learn this summer. It takes a lot of energy. I love being in the passenger's seat.

Best of luck! [;)]

~porcelaine




areallivehuman -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 3:41:52 AM)

When I taught my stepsons t drive, the first thing I did was take them to the "yard" of the local towing company. This is where the tow truck deposit a car after an accident, until insurance decides if it will be fixed at a body shop or scrapped. You will find great examples of what happens if you fuck up. Seeing is believing.




ShaharThorne -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 3:47:46 AM)

I am debating rather or not Lizard will be permitted to have a car..we are bus riders here.

Also, the HS she goes to is a block or 2 away from here. 




sirsholly -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 3:49:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KyttynTheMynx

Awww. This brings back fond memories. The wind in my hair. The feeling of freedom. My mama going into cardiac arrest before I made it out of the drive way, the way she broke the "Oh Shit Handle" off the door, and then came home and doped herself up on meds...Good times!

[:D][:D][:D][:D]




sirsholly -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 3:50:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

I am debating rather or not Lizard will be permitted to have a car..we are bus riders here.

Also, the HS she goes to is a block or 2 away from here. 
If you are asking for opinions, mine is HELL NO!!!!






sirsholly -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 3:59:17 AM)

quote:

I know our children must grow up. Mine has chosen to do so far too quickly.

*nods*

I have 13 yrs till my son turns 16. It will happen tomorrow night.






ElizabethAnne -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 4:07:14 AM)

~fast reply~

When my daughter got her drivers  license she got a cell phone the next day.  SHE thought the cell phone was for her...oh no, ha!  The cell phone was for ME.  heh...




servantforuse -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 6:07:31 AM)

I hope you have very good insurance. When, and not if he gets into an accident, you are responsible for any litigation, not him.




sirsholly -> RE: The Dreaded Driver's Permit (6/19/2010 6:15:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I hope you have very good insurance. When, and not if he gets into an accident, you are responsible for any litigation, not him.
damn...do you practice ParadePissin' in the mirror?

First..I am sure LL will be on top of the insurance issues.

Secondly..it is NOT a given that there will be an accident.

Sheeeeesh.




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