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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 6:28:13 AM

juliaoceania

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My experience is none medical and limited

Which was why one should really inform themselves before posting how women should casually insert foreign objects into their body.

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The both wanted to improve themselves.

Are you saying this is an "improvement"? I don't think it is. To me self improvement is learning new things, gaining a new skill, losing weight and reversing health problems. Self improvement is not doing crystal meth to lose weight, and it isn't inserting plastic into the body either.

Like I said, your wording bespeaks a level of not only ignorance (something you choose to be because there is ample information on the internet about this topic), but of a position that women need to do this to be attractive.... why else post this thread...

Someone else posted that others were calling them "shallow" for having plastic surgery, I haven't seen that, what I have seen is a bunch of people that are telling the OP he should inform himself on the topic before encouraging strangers to do this thing. And so what if it is a shallow thing to do, I may or may not get some plastic surgery myself one day, but it isn't something to do lightly and it has heavy risks...

Small boobs are beautiful in my opinion....and lots of men prefer them. My suggestion to women is find men that accept them the way they are, it is much easier than getting cut up

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 6:37:46 AM

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I think no matter what one says in this forum. There are plenty of people to disagree.. Like I said.. I am not a expert and I don`t think you are. I guess you do have a right to tell others what they should do with there bodies and judge them. Yes.. You can do that Julia.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 7:02:18 AM

juliaoceania

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I think no matter what one says in this forum. There are plenty of people to disagree.. Like I said.. I am not a expert and I don`t think you are. I guess you do have a right to tell others what they should do with there bodies and judge them. Yes.. You can do that Julia.

I am not judging what people do to their bodies, I am judging YOU. You are not advocating for a surgical procedure for men, one that you may or may not get. You are telling women how AWESOME it is to risk their health to get huge knockers because you think it is sexy. You are out there promulgating the idea that women who have implants feel sexier and everyone should casually go and do this procedure....

I can understand why women feel the need to get this done, because media images, etc, tell them they should be skinny with big tits, but this is not usually the way that nature made us. There is a price to pay for this procedure and my position is that women research it. There is nothing more destructive to the self esteem than a botched boob job, which is tantamount to having a mastectomy in my opinion.... scarring, loss of sensitivity, inability to nurse, etc, are all real risks.... not to mention that the sacs deteriorate, the implants leak or burst, the silicone they are made of absorbs into the body causing auto immune problems, etc....

Now some women are lucky with them and love them, some feel like their breasts are ugly afterwards... my former dom thought they looked and felt weird (he had some experiences with boob jobs, and he did not like them, and most men I know don't)

Now you can continue to try to make me sound like I am judging the people who have this procedure, I'm not, and anyone who has read all my posts on this thread would definitely see that. I think people should inform themselves and not take surgery lightly.... and dude, you have no idea of what you are advocating for.... seriously, read something about it.....

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 7:21:21 AM

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I am advocating the right for people to make their own choice and decide whats best for them. You on the other hand want to play God and based on your own very narrow views. I think most folks agree each woman should decide that for herself. Don`t you think that`s true? Dude.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 7:25:30 AM

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Juila, I know you want to get into a cat fight here. I do not. I do value you opinon and I thank you for posting on my topic. Please take care and have a great day!.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 7:28:04 AM

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In fact.. I did happen to tell both ladies that in my view they were just fine the way they were. I in no way encouraged them to enhance their breast to please me. I knew both women several years apart. the implants were done for different reasons for each lady.

My dating experience this last few years has comfirmed my view that women with implants are very much in touch with their bodies and seem to be very sexual and confident in bed. Its just something I have observed.

Probably one of the dumbest things I have ever read out here....Now that is really saying something.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 7:56:56 AM

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Juila, I know you want to get into a cat fight here. I do not. I do value you opinon and I thank you for posting on my topic. Please take care and have a great day!.

I do not want a cat fight either... for one I am not being catty, for another you have never once shown a willingness to address health risks and continue to advocate others do a procedure to their body that could cause serious harm to their health....

Like I said, information is what you need, and you have none about this topic. It has nothing to do with "rights", and I never once advocated that women be denied this procedure, you are creating a straw man position that I do not hold....

It would be nice if some people would say "Hey, I never knew that the silicone can be absorbed into the body! Maybe this isn't a good idea and women should think this over seriously before doing it!" instead of stubbornly sticking to a position that this procedure is harmless and "self improving".... geesh dude, your priorities seem slightly skewed.

I have a cousin who had one breast that never grew, she had one implant. I have another friend, breast cancer survivor, she had an implant... in neither case was this done lightly. I am for women informing themselves and looking at the pros and cons of this before jumping into it, I do not find this to be an unreasonable position, and the fact that you do speaks volumes about you

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 9:01:19 AM

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I'm calling BS on this story as it sounds way too much like an infomercial. Plenty of women are fine with their bodies without the risks and costs of cosmetic surgery and very in tune with their sexual nature and the shared pleasure with their partners. Loving your body means accepting it with all the positives and negatives, not a false image that plays to the shallow merchandising of cosmetic surgery used to manipulate women with low self esteem.

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Now they just loved it.. I am one for recommending augmentation to any woman that feels the need. It was a wonderful change for both ladies and so much fun for me. (smile) To this day.. When I meet a woman with augmentation. I know they are very sexual and they love their bodies.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 9:17:06 AM

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OKay!

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 4:02:35 PM

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....or it could be they seem more open and sexually free to you because they feel they have to be that way to get a man's attention.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 5:29:03 PM

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I agree with ownedbypf. I too have been surgically altered. Because life wasnt exactly flattering to me after 4 births. I've gotten vagioplasty. Which is the hot button these days by lots of people who like to debate things they know nothing of.

I read. Im an avid reader in fact. And again and again I read about how bad it is that women will go out of their way to have the latest "fads" which now include vaginal tightening.

It took me 12 years to find a OBGYN who actually was sympathetic to my plight and pulled my bladder back up into me and tightened my everything else as well. LOTS of humiliation there, asking for that help to fix my problem. Both male And female Dr's make fun of those of us who experience childbirth related injury. Yup. Hardee har har har. How dare we ask to get fixed.

Yeah. Improved my sex life. And got rid of my endless pain as well. Gravity sucks. Go ahead. Have your innards be your outtards. And over those 12 years of looking for help, I listened to countless women say, "you should love yourself!" Well, Fuuuuck you. You should be me.

No apologies here. And guess what. Breast feeding four babies have messed up the girls as well and ruined the tummy. No matter what I do, these areas need work. And work they will have. And with each and every surgery...I feel better about myself. Yup. It's true. I'll be freer in bed if I think my body matches my mind. Just how it is for me. I agree with the original poster. And no, Im not one of his two women. I have no idea who he or his friends are. I just wanted to speak my piece.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/9/2010 9:31:17 PM

daddysliloneds

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When I meet a woman with augmentation. I know they are very sexual and they love their bodies.

that's about the funniest and most naive thing i've read in a long time; thanks for the laugh!

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/16/2010 10:20:33 AM

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As someone who has had the girls enhanced I'll provide further input,
- It was my choice, not masters, not pressure from others etc. Master supported and agreed, but did pick size but gave opinion.
- The type of surgery can influence outcome, I went under muscle, more painful, but less impact on breast and no sensitivity loss
- I did it because I wanted non saggy boobs that are easier to dress and look better and suit my boobie dress style, ieI like being busty and showing cleavage
- I trialled the size for 1 month before every day to make sure
- I took photos of the look and wore sizers to show PS what I wanted, he indicated it was do able and would look fine. For smaller increases they normally suggest more if suitable, but that's because the girls come back wanting more.
- I choose saline because of risks of silicon and surgeon said saline would do the job
- I'm 7 yrs + now and still happy with results, redo's can vary, but I have 2 yrly checks and was told 15yrs should be minimum before redo. Most redos are either correcting for age, poor work or change of size, not implant failure
- Yes surgery is not risk free, but for something that gives me pleasure daily it was worth it
- If I had problem tomorrow I'd have them redone
- Back OT, yes I feel sexier for the BA. Both in bed and after 7 years I still like holding and feeling when stimulated and way I dress, although Master dresses me mostly, but he is better at it.
- For some women who do all the right things, saggy boobs can be the most obvious signs of aging. Others have good genes.
- No one, including mum was told of my BA, its my body not a page in gossip mags. a few guessed and have asked me for which I rarely comment and I suppose others have guessed but not asked. But surgery was timed for winter to reduce the impact on sudden change in size.
- What size, I went from saggy Aussie D to F. A natural perkier shape not that fake look that many girls get. The few people who know have said in a bikini they cannot tell.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/16/2010 1:02:03 PM

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The loss of sensitivity would bug me. What's the point of clamping her nipples if she can't feel it?

That's rare that that occurs. If anything, they're more sensitive, at least mine are. Almost too sensitive.

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/16/2010 1:44:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: sophia37

I agree with ownedbypf. I too have been surgically altered. Because life wasnt exactly flattering to me after 4 births. I've gotten vagioplasty. Which is the hot button these days by lots of people who like to debate things they know nothing of.

I read. Im an avid reader in fact. And again and again I read about how bad it is that women will go out of their way to have the latest "fads" which now include vaginal tightening.

It took me 12 years to find a OBGYN who actually was sympathetic to my plight and pulled my bladder back up into me and tightened my everything else as well. LOTS of humiliation there, asking for that help to fix my problem. Both male And female Dr's make fun of those of us who experience childbirth related injury. Yup. Hardee har har har. How dare we ask to get fixed.

Yeah. Improved my sex life. And got rid of my endless pain as well. Gravity sucks. Go ahead. Have your innards be your outtards. And over those 12 years of looking for help, I listened to countless women say, "you should love yourself!" Well, Fuuuuck you. You should be me.

No apologies here. And guess what. Breast feeding four babies have messed up the girls as well and ruined the tummy. No matter what I do, these areas need work. And work they will have. And with each and every surgery...I feel better about myself. Yup. It's true. I'll be freer in bed if I think my body matches my mind. Just how it is for me. I agree with the original poster. And no, Im not one of his two women. I have no idea who he or his friends are. I just wanted to speak my piece.

sophia, thank you for sharing your story and your perspective, and i just wanna say, you go girlie!!

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RE: Breast Augmentation - 6/16/2010 3:04:26 PM

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sophia, thank you for sharing your story and your perspective, and i just wanna say, you go girlie!!

I agree with you, daddysprop.

I've never had cosmetic surgery. Hell, I don't even dye my hair. (And being "99" years old, it's got plenty of gray.) But I won't rule enhancements out. Maybe when I'm really old...

I don't think every person who has cosmetic surgery is shallow. Neither should the OP be obligated to list the risks when he describes the rewards he's observed.

So he's had nice experiences with women who liked their bigger boobs. Not some ethical or moral statement there. No need to diss him.

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