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laurell3 -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/7/2010 6:55:06 PM)

They don't call me a dirty girl for nothing. The ironic thing about being a switch is you can have experienced things from both sides. I was recently reminded though that I may not necessarily have much of idea of the taboo that sucking cock is for a man. That's true, of course.

It was pretty major once it actually happened. All the angst and anxiety leading up to it wasn't exactly a picnic, but partially because of my own stupidity and the fact that I was very much still in the learning curve on the other side of the kneel. At the time I tended to believe that other subs were like me (yes ridiculous I know). I either am not going to do something or I am and set my mind to it. While I may temporarily seek reassurance, I wasn't really prepared for the extent that others may need it. In the end we both learned alot about ourselves and others and had a fantastic experience which to this day he says has been one of the highlights of his experience.

The fact that you don't neccesarily want to do it, is what for me, makes it all the more challenging and exciting. I'm sure others would fall on the other side of that idea though.



IronBear -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/7/2010 7:44:54 PM)

As a very straight mate oft says; "Somewhere out there is a man who can turn me on but by him being there. Prey to God I never meet him."  



rideemwet -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/7/2010 8:25:30 PM)

Of course "force" is exerted by the dom imposing their will, and limited by what will cause the sub to bail out or withdraw consent (safeword, etc). So you're really asking why a sub wants to submit at all, vs. say why a masochists wants to bottom in a spanking.



porcelaine -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/7/2010 9:25:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

why does there need to be a forceful element involved?


It all depends on what we're talking about. There's coercion and manipulation. In terms of the homosexual encounter it would be a severe act of humiliation for the person to do it. But that doesn't discount a desire to do so under conditions where force is a necessary element. Without its inclusion the person would probably avoid the behavior and deny his inclinations as well.

I can use myself as an example. I like forced bisexuality. I've been intimate with a woman before. However, I have zero desire to do so again. I don't think about it and I'm not repressing a need to try it once again. I had my fill. The only way I'm getting physically intimate with another woman is if the dominant requires me to do so. Otherwise it's a no go. Now here's the catch. His force is a huge turn on. More so than the act with her in all truth. It's merely a demonstration of his control and ownership. Plus it's hot.

~porcelaine



MissAsylum -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/8/2010 1:33:05 AM)

I've never forced a homosexual encouter before- i already know it wouldn't do anything for me. However, there have been instances where(try to follow me here) the forced bi fantasy has been attempted to be forced on me. In a previous D/s relationship, the sub tried to manipulate me into forcing him to do sexual acts with another man, even though i told him that i'm not big on humilation and i'm not interested in forced bi in any way. that was a situation where i do not believe a force element is really needed, but moreso permission to do what he desired.



youngandjaded1 -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/8/2010 8:10:12 AM)

Another point I was thinking about: why does the "force" have to involve a third party? As a pro you should be careful because anything that involves a penetrative sex act is defined as prostitution by law.

A creative to express "forced bi" is having the sub masturbate to gay porn. I think its a safer alternative for anyone who is interested in trying it.

Edit: This is a response to the OP , I must have clicked the wrong reply button



LadyNTrainer -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/8/2010 8:32:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: youngandjaded1

Another point I was thinking about: why does the "force" have to involve a third party? As a pro you should be careful because anything that involves a penetrative sex act is defined as prostitution by law.


Yeah.  I occasionally get severely tempted to step over the line when a hot client shows up and requests this.  My primary partner is pansexual, and there's not much I like more than watching two boys get it on.  My solution has been to keep it safe and legal (no sexual contact) in the bounds of the pro session, and if the spark is there and he's also willing to hang out with us socially, invite him to come back another time for a personal play date where no money changes hands.





MissAsylum -> RE: So, this whole "forced" fantasy thing... (6/8/2010 8:47:02 AM)

if i were to do anything along those lines during a pro session- i'll be sure to keep this in mind.



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