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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 6:42:51 PM   
laurell3


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ORIGINAL: osf


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I don't know, my relationships don't begin in fantasy.





all relationships begin with fantasies, two in fact.

one of the most common fantasies is "till death do us part"


Again with the "all".....you'd think people would learn...

That's not a fantasy I've ever had personally. Try again?

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 6:49:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		A relationship is two people relating to each other. Finding areas common to each other and sharing that. While a fantasy may begin a relationship, it cannot sustain or grow it. A relationship between 2 people grows as the people find more areas in life they like to share with each other. It must be continually grow, changing, engaging, otherwise it just dies away.

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 7:37:36 PM   
lucylucy


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Status: offline 		Master and I play out our fantasies all the time, but we know it's fantasy (rape play, for example). If we stopped playing out those fantasies, our relationship would change significantly; however, our fantasies don't sustain our relationship. Trust and intimacy and affection, which playing out our fantasies deepens, sustains our relationship.

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 8:14:28 PM   
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Oh gosh, SocratesNot answering a post by osf...

*cues twilight zone music*



Wow!  That certainly blows my theory out of the water.  i was certain that they were the same person.  Similar writing styles.  Similar thought process.  Same tendency to start 1 billion threads per day.  And prior to this moment, i don't think i had ever seen them participate in the same thread.

But this could be a clever ruse to throw us off the trail. 

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 8:37:22 PM   
lucylucy


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
Oh gosh, SocratesNot answering a post by osf...

*cues twilight zone music*

Wow!  That certainly blows my theory out of the water.  i was certain that they were the same person.  Similar writing styles.  Similar thought process.  Same tendency to start 1 billion threads per day.  And prior to this moment, i don't think i had ever seen them participate in the same thread.

But this could be a clever ruse to throw us off the trail. 

Hmm, I think their writing styles are quite different, and SocratesNot has never once referenced a goose.

osf favors short sentences with few or no dependent clauses. SN writes very long, declarative sentences, often with dependent clauses. Could be two competing personalities in the same person.


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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 8:46:07 PM   
Rochsub2009


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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

Could be two competing personalities in the same person.



i think you may have figured it out.  

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 8:48:31 PM   
lucylucy


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Could be two competing personalities in the same person.

i think you may have figured it out.  

Now I'm wondering if the goose actually exists, or perhaps she's a THIRD personality . . .

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 8:51:44 PM   
Kana


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ORIGINAL: lucylucy

Could be two competing personalities in the same person.


Bringing to mind that classic joke.
What's the difference between a pygmy with a PhD and a woman with venereal disease?
The first is a cunning runt...


< Message edited by Kana -- 6/2/2010 8:52:11 PM >

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 9:04:20 PM   
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Oh gosh,  I honestly thought OSF and Socratesnot were one in the same.  Such similar thoughts and writing style!

I have never begun a relationship based on fantasies.

me too! of course they still could be....

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RE: fantasies - 6/2/2010 10:24:00 PM   
reynardfox


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Status: offline 		What is love but a fantasy made real? The person who makes you happy is the same person whether you love them or not. The life you are living is the same life is you are in love or not. You go through the same shit day after day, but it's so much easier to bear if you love someone or are in love, then  it's very nice.
Relationships tend to last if people love each other, but in the absence of a definable concrete definition of love, aren't we left with the concept of a fantasy?

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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 12:31:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		While I can honestly say I've never started a relationship off with Fantasy. I have started a relationship off with the desired to get laid and have wicked kinky sex. It was at the point where Reality kicked in and we both realized that we really liked each other, is the point where the actual relationship began. Neigher one of us was hooking up with the intention of starting a relationship, just turned out that way. Ironic is that this was one of those rare occasions when all I wanted to do, was hook up with somebody for wicked kinky sex. I had been partying with a mutual friend of ours, and I still remember saying out loud at the party, that I wanted to hookup with somebody for some wicked kinky sex. Next thing, you know he asked me if I was serious, told me he knew of somebody single that just might be into it, and he called her up. She showed up and yeah.. the rest was history. So, yeah...

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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 4:12:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		for a few people im guessing it was the fantasies in their heads that brought them to Ds/BDSM - i remember that 'WOW' moment when i read up on it all and thought, 'im not alone, im not the only freak in the world' - and from that my fantasies have lead me along the path ive been following and helped me to find what ive found.

i would say that without those fantasies as my starting gate i wouldnt have known what i wanted or how to direct the path i needed to follow without being de-railed along the way into somoene else's fantasy - so fantasy has led me to realising my goals and hopes with regard to all of this.

but when reality hits fantasy fades - but i think the great thing about this way of being in terms of relationships/sex/fun and all the rest of it is that there is a whole load of opportunities to explore fantasies - may that never end frankly - !!  - because even if the fantasy doesnt survive reality its still great to try things out and it means you never stop exploring each other and pushing those parameters.

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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 5:58:08 AM   
osf


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Status: offline 		Can anyone tell me they don't have fantasies about the object of their desires in the beginning and don't we have a tendency to share them with that object, I would dare say more than most vanillas do as they may have the opisite tendency to keep their fantasies to them selves.


I have seen people try to run their relationship based on a fantasy and wonder why it didn't work out and blame the other person, then go on and repeat the same mistake.

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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 6:00:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

Can anyone tell me they don't have fantasies about the object of their desires in the beginning


Yes, I can.


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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 8:07:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lally2

for a few people im guessing it was the fantasies in their heads that brought them to Ds/BDSM - i remember that 'WOW' moment when i read up on it all and thought, 'im not alone, im not the only freak in the world' - and from that my fantasies have lead me along the path ive been following and helped me to find what ive found.

i would say that without those fantasies as my starting gate i wouldnt have known what i wanted or how to direct the path i needed to follow without being de-railed along the way into somoene else's fantasy - so fantasy has led me to realising my goals and hopes with regard to all of this.

but when reality hits fantasy fades - but i think the great thing about this way of being in terms of relationships/sex/fun and all the rest of it is that there is a whole load of opportunities to explore fantasies - may that never end frankly - !!  - because even if the fantasy doesnt survive reality its still great to try things out and it means you never stop exploring each other and pushing those parameters.




The trick is to keep the fantasy alive with an underpinning of reality but the fantasy has to be one that can be actually realized.

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RE: fantasies - 6/3/2010 9:13:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I'm going to totally steal a line from LadyPact here. In the case of the above, I would respond: I don't have fantasies, I have goals!

- LA



It's a great concept, isn't it? 




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