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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Actually...those discretionary items are there so that he won't ever have to rely on the government to "take care" of him.
It's called being proactive and being responsible for oneself.
Perhaps if more people had that attitude instead of expecting the government to feed, clothe, and provide for them we wouldn't be in such a mess.

edited to add....he most certainly doesn't need me to defend his words. But this kind of made me angry to read your response.
It is really up to no one other than one's self to support themselves.

He is working towards supporting himself. But dont use that money as a reason to claim you dont bring that money home. It isnt going to the government, it isnt going to charities, its going into his pocket, either now or in the future. Its a huge difference.

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Actually...those discretionary items are there so that he won't ever have to rely on the government to "take care" of him.
It's called being proactive and being responsible for oneself.
Perhaps if more people had that attitude instead of expecting the government to feed, clothe, and provide for them we wouldn't be in such a mess.

edited to add....he most certainly doesn't need me to defend his words. But this kind of made me angry to read your response.
It is really up to no one other than one's self to support themselves.

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ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149

Great point.

Let's do a more specific breakdown:

1-4 equal   28%  Not discretionary
10             10%  Discretionary. However, no one else is paying for my retirement.  I Have to.
6-8               1.5%  Insurance. Discretionary.  But based on my job, I'd be a dumb jerk off if I didn't.
5.                Nominal.  Mandatory
11.              10%  Discretionary. But no one but me is paying for college, wedding, My truck, etc. I Have to.
9.                 1.5% Discretionary

If I cut out charity, insurance and cut my retirement and personal savings in half.  I'd still have 38% coming out before take home.  And I'd be putting the people that depend on me at financial risk while not having enough money to pay for the big expenses in my life or my retirement.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Seeing aileen post makes me realize how much I miss JerseyKrissi72.

I would gladly trade away aileen and Shorebound to see her words illuminate this site once again.

Aileen and Shorebound are nothing but a sad modern day knock off of JerseyKrissi and RobertCloud. Two star crossed kids just trying to find some peace and happiness in the rough and tumble desolate landscape that is Joizee.

I remember rushing to the computer and doing a "search" to see what words of wisdom Jerbert Cloussi had posted in my absence.

Now I wake up and find out that Shorebound donates to the United Way....What a homo.

Please come back Bobby & Krissi.

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ORIGINAL: itsmeinLV

Is that normal???  Anybody else feeling this pain?

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yeah- but we don't have to salute her.

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ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149

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ORIGINAL: itsmeinLV

Is that normal???  Anybody else feeling this pain?

Rule - These are the two questions in the OP.  My point was that his tax burden was normal and it actually gets worse as you earn more.

My point in combining the example of high taxes and voluntary (though necessary) deductions was to emphasize that anyone with any sort of responsibility that works "on the books" knows what it feels like to have much less in their hand on payday than they actually earned.

I was trying to break the little 25 year old fucker's spirit.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

You probably don't want to read this, but here in Canada (a socialist country wich over taxes its citizens) the tax on $900 with no dependents, etc, is only $147.71...and that pays for taxes, unemployment, SS AND health care.
Face it kiddo, you're living in the wrong country[:D]