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domiguy -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 7:01:17 AM)
Like I said before, great first post!!!!! You are going to fit in here like very depressed peas in a sad little pod...............................................Yay!!!!

sweetvenum -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 7:21:18 AM)
Thank you everyone for your comments, suggestions and e-mails.

Termyn8or -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 9:02:22 AM)
FR A liquor store Holly, have you been reading the lines or between the lines ? I will tell you all this much, I would sell this house and spend all the money on booze and drown in it before taking an antidepressant. Maybe y'all just don't understand me. I have lost too many good friends and and family members in my peer generation, including my favorite cousin. Including some who I jammed with, who had talent. By the time I was 35 I knew more dead people than alive. I have been through hell several times, have lost EVERYTHING I owned at least twice and still I will not take a pill. I must stand up to my problems and solve them. That is the way I was taught. My Mother said it "Get fucked up if you want, but the next morning those same problems will be there". Everybody wants to make intox an issue here, but I am fully aware that it is only a temporary escape. I KNOW this. And I know this about their little pills as well, whether red or blue. I am facing legal problems as well as serious medical and financial problems right now, yet I can maintain some degree of optimism. How about I mail you with all the details. Try my life on for size. But no pill, elixir or anything will fix it. I NEED to feel it, even the pain, to figure out how to solve these problems. I believe I am strong in the mind and I am trying to lend some of that strength to another. And your point is what now ? Take a pill ? Now who is NOT on top of things ? T

JstAnotherSub -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 9:26:10 AM)
had i been through all the things you wrote here, and i thought there was any chance a damn pill might help me, i would be begging for that pill. meds are not the first choice for treating mental illness, but they are a viable option when other treatments have failed. your self treating is a failure. give pills a chance.

pegbundy -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 10:36:21 AM)
Term, It is fantastic that you know what works for you. Please don't pass judgement on others for taking a different route. The chemical imbalance which can be at the root of depression is a very real thing. And unfortunately, there is enough shame and stigma attached to seeking assistance with this imbalance already. Don't pile on top of it for goodness sake. There is an enormous difference between hiding from your problems (whether that be hiding behind pills or alcohol or whatever the chosen vice), or simply acknowledging that the imbalance exists. Anti-depressants can and frequently are used responsibly to put a person back onto a level playing field where they can effectively deal with their shit. There are also myriad other physical conditions which can cause similar feelings of apathy. Please - OP - visit your doctor - get an accurate sense of what you are dealing with - then make an informed decision on how best to deal with it for yourself.

dragon200070 -> RE: looking for some insight (5/9/2010 6:54:10 PM)
What has changed for you? Try doing things differently. If you can't correct this, go to a professional (hopefully kink friendly). Jeff

DesFIP -> RE: looking for some insight (5/10/2010 5:23:59 AM)
Term, taking treatment for depression is no different than having an operation for appendicitis. Or would you refuse that too? I took the pills, the suicidal ideation lifted in days, I got off the pills after I was back to normal, I shouldn't have another attack of it. But if I do, I know there's an effective treatment.

Termyn8or -> RE: looking for some insight (5/10/2010 6:42:38 AM)
FR OK, maybe my solution is not everyone's solution. If you don't have an operational pancreas, refusing insulin will kill you. But I am more talking about things that affect the mind. I need mine. When it comes to such things, my considered opinion is that there is one major thing they can't seem to get into their head (I was really looking for a pun there but it ain't happenin I guess). Yes the chemical balance in the brain can affect one's mood, but what they seem to ignore is that one's mood can affect the chemical balance in the brain. So in at least some cases, going to drugs is treating only the symptom, not the cause. Where have we heard that before ? Oh, everywhere. I think drugs should be the last resort. But it's easier and pays well, so guess what they do. While it may cost, in the long run you might be better off with years of therapy with a psychologist than one visit to a psychiatrist and wind up with a scrip. A buddy of mine went on an antidepressant a year or so ago, to me it is no longer worth my time to talk to him about his mental issues. It's as if I am not talking to him really. It's either them or me. He is doing well though, got a nice, one of a kind pot leaf design ground into his sidewalk and just bought a new Harley. Fully functional. Works every day, all that, but it's like it's not him anymore. I don't know any better way to put it. T

SeaviewBridge -> RE: looking for some insight (5/10/2010 9:57:24 PM)
sweetvenum.. Please seek professional help if you haven't already

xxblushesxx -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 12:02:21 AM)
P.S. seeking professional help does not always involve drugs. It may or may not. It may involve getting more exercise, eating better, adopting a pet, volunteering at a shelter, or any number of things. It may also involve medication. You never know until you seek help. OP, you came to us because you wanted help; now take the next step, and seek help first through a medical doctor. He/she may refer you to another kind of doctor. Try it! You have nothing to lose but depression!

Termyn8or -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 3:13:24 AM)
FR I don't think anyone underfuckingstands here. ANY thread started by ANYONE in here asking for med or psyche help or whatever can dial 911 just as fast as you or I. They are here because they want OUR opinions. If all you can do is send them to a doctor, why waste your time ? They may be already going to one or like I WAS, refusing to go to one. Yes I am going to one soon. But nothing said here got me to do it. When I asked for help, perhaps I didn't make it clear, I got a car, there is a hospital right down the street. If I wanted to I could just go there. Why the hell would I bother y'all ? Because I value and respect your opinions mostly. I can't get that at doc's office, I can get it here. Kapeesh ? You gotta tell some people EVERYTHING. T

ShaharThorne -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 3:44:14 AM)
Talk therapy does work to a certain extent. If the depression is caused by a brain chemistry imbalance, it should be treated. I have bipolar I with rapid cycling. If not for my meds, I would have been self medicating and that is not a pretty sight.Right now, I am smooth sailing unless someone triggers me off. I had one time when I was picking up my daughter for summer visit and the entire apartment was a mess. I held my cool and Mom knew I was trying my damnest not to go ballistic. I might be a slob myself but I use the logic of everything has it time and place. These when I am down there, I try to fix the situation by helping out. I would do dishes or picked up the living room to sorting out the recycleables. When I am down there, I maintain a conversation with my daughter's school since her father is not able to because of working situations. Believe me, I tried to be drug free, but I do get worse without the meds. Everyone hates it when I go off my meds. So go to a therapist or a shrink. Plot out a cause of action with them and be educated about what you are going through. Having a cause of acction is best than drowning in a sea of "what if".

cpK69 -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 3:58:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetvenum it seems as if everyone around me is so shallow. Is there something wrong with me? It is possible your assessment is not inaccurate. If true, I would first advise you to allow others the liberty to be 'shallow'; "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink" Second, I suggest you look into yourself and ask, "is there somewhere in my life I am also being shallow?" It often happens that the unpleasantness we see in others is a reflection of the same, in ourselves. Kim

sirsholly -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 4:19:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cpK69 quote: ORIGINAL: sweetvenum it seems as if everyone around me is so shallow. Is there something wrong with me? It is possible your assessment is not inaccurate. Where as I agree that those around the OP are probably not suddenly shallow, her feeling on this are one of the signs of depression. Feeling distanced from those you were close to, feeling no connection and unable to relate all add to the isolation. A very lonely place to be.

cpK69 -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 4:53:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirsholly Where as I agree that those around the OP are probably not suddenly shallow, her feeling on this are one of the signs of depression. Feeling distanced from those you were close to, feeling no connection and unable to relate all add to the isolation. A very lonely place to be. Yes; been there, done that. It sucks. My thinking is, if she is able to accept people for who they are, appreciate what each has to teach, and allow them to make their own choices; she will no longer be inclined to judge them as ‘shallow’, therefore, enabling her to relate to them better. More importantly, she will no longer need to judge her own existence as shallow. Of course, my offering of ‘insight’ comes from my perspective, derived from my experiences, and not meant to be considered the only possible answer. : ) Kim

Termyn8or -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 4:53:38 AM)
So then---- brain chemistry changes with perception, and perception changes with brain chemistry and brain chemistry changes with perception, and perception changes with brain chemistry and brain chemistry changes with perception, and perception changes with brain chemistry and So what we need to do is to fuck with that system with a very limited understanding of how it works. Sounds about right for the year 2010. I swear no matter what I must live the next two years at least, just to see what happens. T

reynardfox -> RE: looking for some insight (5/11/2010 5:13:48 AM)
seratonin levels are too low, eat some bananas, and then sleep, maturbation and sex are the best anti depressants, but see your physician, that's what you pay him for.

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