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tazzygirl -> Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 6:51:03 PM)

And Here We Go: Attack Ad Cites Health Care Vote

March 23, 2010

Republican businessman Scott Sipprelle, who is running to unseat Democratic Rep. Rush Holt of New Jersey this fall, has launched one of the first TV ads attacking an incumbent on the recent health care vote.

In the 30-second spot, which is also the first TV ad of his campaign, Sipprelle says, "Rush Holt and Nancy Pelosi ignored you" and supported a "trillion dollar health care bill [that] creates a massive new federal bureaucracy that will hurt the quality of care and saddle us with more debt and higher taxes." The ad urges voters to "hold Rush Holt accountable" come November.

It is Sipprelle’s opinion that the health care bill (now law) will hurt Americans’ quality of care, and he’s entitled to state it. But "more debt"? That’s not the case, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. The CBO said that the House-passed Senate bill, combined with a set of House-passed modifications, will actually reduce the deficit by a net $143 billion over the next 10 years ($19 billion in reductions come from student-loan provisions that are part of the still-pending modifications). And though the new law does impose some taxes to help fund the expansion of health care — including higher Medicare taxes on individuals earning more than $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000, plus taxes on high-cost health insurance plans, manufacturers of pharmaceuticals and certain medical devices, and individuals who don’t purchase qualifying health coverage — not everyone will be subject to these tax measures, as the ad suggests.

Sipprelle’s ad is just the beginning of what is expected to be an onslaught of advertising focusing on the health care vote in this year’s congressional races.

http://factcheck.org/2010/03/and-here-we-go-attack-ad-cites-health-care-vote/

There is a video also.

and so it begins.




pahunkboy -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 6:52:44 PM)

cool.




Musicmystery -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 6:55:23 PM)

Wait 'til they try to repeal this and have to explain what they're repealing.




tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:01:56 PM)

to be honest, Master Tim, we have.. hmm.. at least 2 more years of campaigning ads, 2 more years of accusations, and at least 2 years of trying to repeal this thing.

its going to be a very dreary 2 years, in my opinion.




Musicmystery -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:03:35 PM)

You're too optimistic. They're still trying to repeal the New Deal.




slvemike4u -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:09:33 PM)

They are poised to smash themselves up against this bill...it's like watching a drunk at Vegas split 10's while the dealer shows a queen.This is the Republican party doubling down after the dealer(Democrats) has already revealed he has blackjack(Health Care Reform bill).




tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:11:31 PM)

what can i say... im a hopeless romantic, Master Tim.

and im hoping, just as with the repeal efforts of many other bills, in 2 years, this one will be delegated to the background.




Musicmystery -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:12:44 PM)

What if Glenn Beck turns out to be the anti-Christ?

And who is the anti-Freeze?






tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:15:14 PM)

Im waiting on Beck to annouce his bid for president... lol




Musicmystery -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:16:20 PM)

Is it presidential to do the tear thing?




Level -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 7:18:50 PM)

Well, Clinton had the lip-bite down pat, which is only a step or two away from crying.

Beck for President? I'll shit a flying monkey if that happens.




subrob1967 -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:12:19 PM)

I hope the republicans slap the democrats in the face about this travesty every chance they get.




tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:18:16 PM)

Im sure you do since the chances of the law being repealed are slim to none.




thornhappy -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:28:55 PM)

Won't that be painful with the wings and all?
quote:

ORIGINAL: Level

Well, Clinton had the lip-bite down pat, which is only a step or two away from crying.

Beck for President? I'll shit a flying monkey if that happens.





slvemike4u -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:39:20 PM)

never mind.....screwed up the quotes.




slvemike4u -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:42:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I hope the republicans slap the democrats in the face about this travesty every chance they get.
Of course you do your party,at this point in time ,offers little other than the chance for some "blood" sport!




domiguy -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:47:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I hope the republicans slap the democrats in the face about this travesty every chance they get.


It is a travesty. It will be accepted by the public and it will be forgotten by November.

If employment numbers pick up there will be no "slapping."




tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 8:49:45 PM)

i agree Domiguy. the next few election years will depend on employment and recovery numbers... not health care.... unless its repealed... then its anybodys guess what will happen.




Lorr47 -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 9:47:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

They are poised to smash themselves up against this bill...it's like watching a drunk at Vegas split 10's while the dealer shows a queen.This is the Republican party doubling down after the dealer(Democrats) has already revealed he has blackjack(Health Care Reform bill).


Is the act constitutional?  Depends.  Roberts just ignored 100 years of precedent regarding free speech.  Scalia doesn't value any precedent.  Look at what they did regarding the second amendment.  (I happen to own hundreds of firearms and did not mind the decision but it was in the face of decades of  writing and only after Professor Tribe altered a hornbook treatise.)

Is the act constitutional?  In my opinion it is.  But then again I think Roe is now the law which may be wishful thinking.
If Jefferson rose from the dead and argued, I think Roberts would put him down by saying Jefferson did not understand the Constitution.




tazzygirl -> RE: Upcoming election ads (3/28/2010 9:55:08 PM)

New G.O.P. Slogan: ‘Repeal and Replace’ Health Care Law
By CARL HULSE
Republicans are moving quickly from “repeal” the health care legislation to “repeal and replace” the measure President Obama signed into law Tuesday.

Meeting with reporters after a private party strategy meeting, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, took pains to say that Republicans will push not only to overturn the law, but that they intend to replace it with something else.

“I think the slogan will be “repeal and replace”, “repeal and replace,” Mr. McConnell said. “No one that I know in the Republican conference in the Senate believes that no action is appropriate.”


The change in message reflects the acknowledgment that while saying they intended to overturn a package of new benefits and access to health coverage for Americans might satisfy conservatives, it might be a tougher sell to independent voters who see some value in the new law though they might not like all of it. If there is one thing veteran politicians know, it is that Americans don’t like things they already have being taken from them.

In another twist, Republicans are now referring to the measure as the health spending law – a subtle shift that is an attempt to emphasize the federal fiscal issues they believe resonate with Americans.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/new-g-o-p-slogan-repeal-and-replace-health-care-law/


In the wake of the passage of health care reform, nearly the entire slate of Republican senatorial candidates seems ready to run on a repeal of the bill. But now, the lawmaker overseeing their election strategy is softening the message. Rather than promising to scrap the bill in its entirety, the GOP will pledge to just get rid of the more controversial parts.

In a brief chat with the Huffington Post on Tuesday, National Republican Senatorial Committee chair John Cornyn (R-Tex.) implicitly acknowledged that Republicans are content with allowing some elements of Obama's reform into law. And they'd generally ignore those elements when taking the fight to their Democrat opponents as November approaches.

"There is non-controversial stuff here like the preexisting conditions exclusion and those sorts of things," the Texas Republican said. "Now we are not interested in repealing that. And that is frankly a distraction."

What the GOP will work to repeal, Cornyn explained, are provisions that result in "tax increases on middle class families," language that forced "an increase in the premium costs for people who have insurance now" and the "cuts to Medicare" included in the legislation.

The remarks seemingly put Cornyn at odds with the head of all Senate Republicans, Mitch McConnell (R-Ky), who signaled on Tuesday that he would support a legislative effort by fellow Republican lawmakers to fully repeal the health care bill. Cornyn himself had previously suggested that he'd support a full repeal campaign as well.

The senator's comments on Tuesday also included a push to restore funds for Medicare Advantage -- an odd political moment, considering the GOP's self-promotion as the party that trims the fat off entitlement programs.

The passage of Obama's health care plan into law, indeed, has already had a drastic affect on the electoral landscape. Cornyn applauded the fact that the vast majority -- if not the entirety -- of Senate Republican candidates were on board the health care repeal effort.

"I haven't had to encourage them," he said. "A lot of them have taken the gauntlet up and I think their instincts are correct. But I think it has got to be a place of repealing the bad and replacing it with something better."

But it's not as if Senate Democrats are running scared from the bill. Party officials have long suspected that health care reform, once passed into law, would be a tricky subject for Republicans. And now that it's passed they seem to be enjoying the political fruits, aggressively using the GOP repeal campaign against them. In the hours after the House passed the bill on Sunday night, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee took a lot of sharp jabs at GOP Senate candidates, asking whether they want to get rid of legislation that could drastically alter the state of health care coverage in their states.

"We absolutely intend to make sure Republicans will be in the very uncomfortable position of looking voters in the eye and making it clear they want to take affordable health care reform away from them," said Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spokesman Eric Schultz.
Approached outside the Senate chamber on Tuesday, Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Mary.) flashed a smile when asked how the party will respond to the Republican repeal effort.

"We will point out to small business owners who are about to get a credit, that repeal will take it away," he shot back. "We will talk to people who have high risk, or preexisting conditions, or who are poor and can get better insurance that that will be taken away from them. We will talk to seniors who have a chance of getting a $250 check this year, that their $250 will be taken away from them."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/23/nrscs-cornyn-we-wont-call_n_510232.html

Just seems to me this is already heating up to be one hell of an election season... and it doesnt even seem that the RNC agrees within itself what the platform will be.




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