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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Archer


I'm not against covering folks who have conditions, I'm against calling it insurance and treating it as something entirely different.

OK what do you want to call it and how do you want it paid for?


Every Other Type of Insurance covers you for UNEXPECTED and extraordinary loss.

Only when it's Health Insurance do we expect it to cover regular expected doctor visits, and health expenses that are regular and recurring

Not so.  You can write an insurance policy for anything you want to.  Tons of  
"extended waranty policies" 
Medical insurance has been written for years for maintainance as have dental policies.

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Nope No accounting background other than the required class in college for a business minor that's a failing memory for you thompson.

Obviously I had you mixed up with someone else thus my question.

Ah the old they must be cooking the books accusation without proof.

No the court appointed proctor/auditor for the AIG scam says so.
The statistic stands unless you provide a refuting statistic of their profit margin.

The margin is the margin the accounting principles have rules for how the profit margin is calculated, unless you have some proof that the entire industry's average has been cooked by some huge accounting cabal that works for the Health Insurance Industry and cooks the entire indiustry's books, the average profit margin for the Industry stands at 4.4% for the latest quarter.


I can only suggest you read the auditors report on AIG and you  will find it all there.  That is as much of your homework I am willing to do.

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Still looking for that SCOTUS ruling that SS is voluntary eh? Keep trying, moron.

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I agree if youre saying it SHOULD be covered if its legal, but even many pro-choicers dont.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Youre an idiot, as Ive pointed out before. You have no clue what entered into their personal decisions.

I only have your statement that your not poor partner let his mother suffer for 18 months before he would take a few bux out of his pocket to help her.
I am sure that calling me names makes your point singularly valid

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Still looking for that SCOTUS ruling that SS is voluntary eh? Keep trying, moron.

 
This from a speech by President Roosevelt:
FOLLOWING his approval of the Social Security Act Amendments of 1939, President Roosevelt on August 11 made a public statement in which he declared the amendments to be "another tremendous step forward in providing greater security for the people of this country." The President commented specifically on the changes in the old-age insurance system, expressing his gratification that in liberalizing the provisions a reasonable relationship had been retained between wage loss sustained and benefits received. "This," he declared, "is a most important distinguishing characteristic of social insurance as contrasted with any system of flat pensions." With regard to changes in coverage of the system, the President remarked: "I am glad that the insurance benefits have been extended to cover workers in some occupations that have previously not been covered. However, workers in other occupations have been excluded. In my opinion, it is imperative that these insurance benefits be extended to workers in all occupations."
http://www.ssa.gov/history/reports/1939no1.html


I assure you that calling me a moron certainly makes you look...well ...like you look 

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I agree if youre saying it SHOULD be covered if its legal, but even many pro-choicers dont.

Yes Wilbeur, that's exactly what I am saying...if its legal it SHOULD indeed be covered. Willbeur & I agree, so we can just end the discussion of funding for abortions...it's settled.

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ORIGINAL: Archer

AIG is not the entire Health Insurance field thompson you;'re not even close to trying here.

The 4.4% profit margin is an industry wide average.

Cooked books in the small part of AIG that was caught in the derivatives collapse is hardly an indictment for the entire Healthcare Insurance industry.

Try again cause that was weak as hell.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I agree if youre saying it SHOULD be covered if its legal, but even many pro-choicers dont.

Yes Wilbeur, that's exactly what I am saying...if its legal it SHOULD indeed be covered. Willbeur & I agree, so we can just end the discussion of funding for abortions...it's settled.

I do wonder how the hell they feel that raising an unwanted kid on social security in a trailer park is going to be less of a waste of money than just paying to get rid of the kid before it's born, in any case.
It's strange how the people who are opposed to abortion tend to be the same people who are rabidly opposed to welfare programmes as well, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

And what exactly in that statement indicates that its voluntary? And that doesnt look like a SCOTUS ruling to me, which youve claimed at least 3 times in different threads exists, but you cant come up with.

Perhaps the part that says it is insurance.
And of course the part that mentions that only a few are covered which would indicate that if it were manditory everyone would be covered

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You might also look for a definition of "insurance" that in any way distinguishes between "voluntary" and involuntary"

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And once again you demonstrate a feeble grasp of logic. Mandatory on select groups doesnt make it voluntary.

 
No it would make it manditory on the select group and not manditory on the not select group.
Since you are in a school teaching mood why don't you tell us just who that select group were?

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>snip<
So, why is it that Health Insurance is the only insurance policy that folks expect to cover a pre existing condition?

With all due respect Archer, From an outsider I can only say..."Only in America, thank god."

Thats funny, thats exactly what my partner, former Canadian, says too. His mother waited 18 months to get a knee replacement, a day before the surgery she got bumped by someone with a "more urgent need", (ie she could walk despite the pain), and it would have been another 8-12 months. He brought her here and got it done.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Archer
>snip<
So, why is it that Health Insurance is the only insurance policy that folks expect to cover a pre existing condition?

With all due respect Archer, From an outsider I can only say..."Only in America, thank god."

Thats funny, thats exactly what my partner, former Canadian, says too. His mother waited 18 months to get a knee replacement, a day before the surgery she got bumped by someone with a "more urgent need", (ie she could walk despite the pain), and it would have been another 8-12 months. He brought her here and got it done.

snoreeeee, here we go again, with the bullshit, what does a pre-existing condition have to do with wait times????????

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No it would make it manditory on the select group and not manditory on the not select group.
Since you are in a school teaching mood why don't you tell us just who that select group were?

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With all due respect Archer, From an outsider I can only say..."Only in America, thank god."

Nothing. I didnt and still dont read "Only in America, thank god" as being limited to pre-existing conditions.