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restlessneugene -> kinbaku/shibari (3/9/2010 7:11:46 PM)
I am trying to find out which kinbaku/shibari books people have found to be useful. I have the Jay Wiseman's Erotic Bondage Handbook and Showing You the Ropes by the Two Knotty Boys. I am looking for books with more on practice than history. I am also looking for good books on suspension bondage. Just curious if anyone has a favorite. Thanks Master B

Andalusite -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/10/2010 8:26:19 AM)
I don't think a book would be a very good resource for this - the pictures can be beautiful, though. The Two Knotty Boys have shared some video clips with step-by-step instructions. They don't refer to their ties as shibari, since they do combine some Western ropework as well. Midori has been wonderful about sharing knowledge as well, and I'm sure you can find others.

EclipseAbove -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/12/2010 12:33:12 PM)
These are pretty good, but not necessarily shibari: Two Knotty Boys - Back on the Ropes Midori - The Seductive Art of japanese Bondage Lee "Bridgett" Harrington - Shibari You Can Use Chanta Rose - Bondage for Sex

AcademyForSlaves -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/12/2010 8:31:45 PM)
Hi. I know what you mean. A Mistress friend of mine has the Jay Wiseman book and I only liked it somewhat. I've learned better rope tying from boy scout books and sailing.[;)] I like experimenting and finding new techniques on my own and from sharing tips at parties with my Mistress friends. How about doing a search on Google? Hope this helps.

Justme696 -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/12/2010 11:04:11 PM)
Shibari on this forum there should be some info about links and books. We discussed it recently..

vixenmoon -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/13/2010 12:43:08 PM)
I love Midori's book! It's definitely my favorite so far. I also have the Two Knotty Boys book (or one of them, i think they came out with a second), but I don't prefer their style. Don't forget to check out Master K's book, "The Beauty of Kinbaku", as well. It is so lovely, and a must have for anyone serious about the art, not just the binding. I have found the biggest help to be just doing. If you can attend local classes, those will skyrocket your skills.

Woolrich -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/13/2010 1:16:42 PM)
I've seen or read all the books listed here...but the best instruction I've had was from people, in a face-to-face situation. Folks I met at a local event were really helpful and I also attended one of Midori's weekend sessions in NYC. Midori's session was really, very good. For me, the books are good for reference, but as I learned how to tie, it's was handy to have somebody nearby to show me when I made a subtle mistake that's often hard to see in a book.

Andalusite -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/13/2010 8:27:19 PM)
Oh, I agree that hands-on learning is best! Personally, I've tended to learn the most in a co-topping situation, where I had the person right there to demonstrate, walk me through it, then watch as I did it on my own. Hands-on classes can be very helpful as well, and Midori and the Knotty Boys are fantastic instructors. Since the OP asked for book recommendations, I assumed that wasn't an option, and I think that video clips are more helpful than written instructions.

Woolrich -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (3/13/2010 9:00:15 PM)
Ah, yeah...sorry, I wasn't trying to be dismissive of the books. My personal opinion on the books is that the more illustrations or photos you get, the better. The issues I've seen with my own stuff has always been because I did something small and stupid and a photo (plus my inexperience with a new tie) can't always point out what went wrong until later...when I could sit down with my partner and work through it again, slowly, in a less-interesting or intense moment. ...of course, working through the issue as practice often loops back into a new session. So as learning experiences go, I'd say this is the kind I don't mind repeating several times over.

Esinem -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (4/9/2010 5:52:45 PM)
It is worth checking out Douglas Kent's 'Complete Shibari', which seems pretty close to shibari as it is done in Japan, albeit not 100% authentic. If you want the real deal, Arisue Go has some good books out in Japanese, but with lots of clear pics. The latest offerings in English seem to be more companions to the DVDs and don't really appear to stand alone, unless you already have a good grasp of proper shibari technique, i.e. not American shibari, neobari, fusion, shambari or whatever. If you have any doubt as to what kinbaku is, this guy, Kinoko Hajime, knows his stuff: http://www.esinem.com/Video/Arts%20Night%20Kinoko.wmv TKB, it ain't!

SailingBum -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (4/9/2010 6:54:38 PM)
Not much for books regarding knots. If my knots can keep a boat lashed to the pier, It will keep you suspended until hell freezes over. Capt Bligh

DesFIP -> RE: kinbaku/shibari (4/10/2010 6:44:41 AM)
Suspension is not something you can screw up and learn how to do properly a few days later. Not when it can take months to recover from nerve damage, dislocated shoulders, etc. I urge you not to try this until you can make a workshop someplace.

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