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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 4:49:32 PM   
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Another hassle also was that you had to keep that particular receipt for those cans to ensure to get the refund in the first place from the shop where you bought it...so if you lost it...you lost your refund. So that system was annoying in practice but seems reduced the amount of drinking cans being used.


That was probably the whole point.

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we have to pay for plastic bags in the shop.


I heard that they did that in Ireland and just about completely eliminated the use of plastic bags there. Go Germany and Ireland. It's a terrible thing that plastic is doing to our world as it doesn't biodegrade. Furthermore, as most plastic appears to end up in oceans, sea turtles often think that plastic bags are jellyfish, their favorite food. They eat the plastic bag and it kills them.

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My town is so green it is called the Forest City.


Wow! I like that name! It's almost akin to Emerald City!

Oh, my, there is so much to look at now! I'm just thrilled!

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 5:30:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Meliai

I will send you a message with links to some of the things the university is doing and my towns page when I get home tonight.

I'm not sure how helpful this will be: http://www.ct.gov/dep/site/default.asp


Actually, I did find something helpful here. Aquifer protection. I'm currently looking at nitrate levels in the Ogallala aquifer in the TX panhandle.

The regulations restrict development of certain new land use activities that use, store, handle or dispose of hazardous materials and requires existing regulated land uses to register and follow best management practices.

In other words, we're not going to let people participate in these activities around our drinking water anymore. Hahaha! I think it's funny, but I'm sure it's more than the state of TX does at this point. I just found that funny. Although I disagree with BMPs as far as hazmats are concerned. They should move away from the DRINKING WATER. Better yet, they ought to find and implement methods that don't employ hazmats. For beliefs like this, I'm called a radical here at home.

AND they have MAPS! COOL!

OMG! And GIS shapefiles?!? I'm in HEAVEN!

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Have you taken the footprint quiz before? It was taking a quiz like this a few years ago that made me realize how many things I could be doing differently - I used public transportation for years after that.

http://www.footprintnetwork.org/en/index.php/GFN/page/calculators/



That footprint was totally different than the one I took at school. Actually, there were a couple of kids giving out a test by asking questions during some thing. Either way, Either way, if everyone in the world lived like me, according to this test, we would need 3.6 planets to sustain life. I think what really got me was using packaged foods, though I look for responsible packaging and I really like Amy's Organics. However, I need to purchase more locally grown foods, so I'm going to try doing that. I don't think I'm prepared to live in a house that doesn't have electricity, though. Those were the only things that got me, though. I think that says a lot about the problem of overpopulation, though. We're talking 6 billion people living this way. And that ain't much! The living, I mean, not the number of people.


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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 5:34:12 PM   
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In Greenburg (or Greenberg) Kansas, the town was literally blown off the map some years ago by a tornado. They vowed to become the "Greenest city in America". I haven't visited the website lately.


OK, I found their website. They're Greensburg, Kansas.

Looks as though they have some pretty "lofty" goals in place and I hope they make it. They could teach the rest of us a lesson. I say "lofty" because most people I know would say that those kinds of goals were just unrealistic, but I say reach for the stars, your imagination is your limit! Your desire is your limit.

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 5:41:09 PM   
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http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/05/01/freiburg-germanys-eco-town-flagship/


Freiburg has taken maximum advantage of these policies, and the local government (where the Green party have up to 40% of the popular vote in some areas) has adopted a resolution which permits construction of new buildings only if they adhere to certain “low energy” specifications. The net result is that whilst a typical British home uses 220 kilowatt hours of energy per year per square meter of floor space, newer homes in Freiburg use only 15.

WOW, fucking WOW! I'm speechless! That is awesome!

The city has an extensive public transport network, allowing the centre of the city to be completely car free, and the residents of the city are well known for their love of cycling and recycling. The result is a city where life is pleasant, living is good, and costs are low.

Reducing our environmental footprint doesn’t have to be hard, and it doesn’t require billions in additional taxes - it just requires a little ingenuity and some common sense.

'nuff said!




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http://showcase.hcaacademy.co.uk/case-study/ecotowns-freiburg-germany.html#the-impact


I fucking LOVE Germany! They SO rock! Ich liebe Deutscheland!

BTW, that insane right winging family that emigrated here? Listen to this:

Schools function as community hubs and are not cut off by walls and fences as in Britain.

Persecuted, my ass!

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 6:00:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: came4U

The only big noticable difference in our town is the new Cosmetic Pesticide Ban http://www.london.ca/d.aspx?s=/Growing_Naturally/default.htm




Oh, if only the US would follow suit!

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The local Conservative council here pulled a blinder.

The national government required (c/o of the EU) that what could be recycled should be recycled. So, our rubbish collections were switched to fortnightly and we were all issued with plastic boxes for recyclables, which would be picked up weekly.

The stupidity started with these boxes - which were not only tiny, but also required a whole fleet of new trucks to handle them for pick up - if they'd issued wheelybins in different colours they could have used the same trucks for the whole job.

But we went along with it, even though the taxes were raised to cover the costs.

..........and then it was discovered that none of the recyclables we'd gathered and stored were being recycled after all.

It was being trucked down to a landfill in Kent, because that was cheaper than recycling and still satisfied the requirements of the government because our local landfill showed a huge reduction in takings.

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Ok, that IS bad.

ETA: Thank you all so much for your inputs!

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 6:33:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

OMG! And GIS shapefiles?!? I'm in HEAVEN!



That was easy!

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However, I need to purchase more locally grown foods, so I'm going to try doing that.



I saw this on the local news a few nights ago, and am going to give it a shot if I can get in anywhere that's close to home.

http://www.localharvest.org/csa/

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 6:49:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage

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http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/05/01/freiburg-germanys-eco-town-flagship/


Freiburg has taken maximum advantage of these policies, and the local government (where the Green party have up to 40% of the popular vote in some areas) has adopted a resolution which permits construction of new buildings only if they adhere to certain “low energy” specifications. The net result is that whilst a typical British home uses 220 kilowatt hours of energy per year per square meter of floor space, newer homes in Freiburg use only 15.

WOW, fucking WOW! I'm speechless! That is awesome!

The city has an extensive public transport network, allowing the centre of the city to be completely car free, and the residents of the city are well known for their love of cycling and recycling. The result is a city where life is pleasant, living is good, and costs are low.

Reducing our environmental footprint doesn’t have to be hard, and it doesn’t require billions in additional taxes - it just requires a little ingenuity and some common sense.

'nuff said!




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http://showcase.hcaacademy.co.uk/case-study/ecotowns-freiburg-germany.html#the-impact


I fucking LOVE Germany! They SO rock! Ich liebe Deutscheland!

BTW, that insane right winging family that emigrated here? Listen to this:

Schools function as community hubs and are not cut off by walls and fences as in Britain.

Persecuted, my ass!


You are welcome

As it got mentioned in the news here (gosh was I surprised when I could show a colleague that this is where I am from) I thought you might like it Every time I go home (1-2 times a year) I meet a friend in that town to go to eat a gorgeous huge baguette in a student bar....last time I said "now I gained 2kg" (as I feel like I eat the whole menu upwards and downwards) and she just replies "but it was good ".

By the way, considering we do quite a lot about recycling it regularly made me laugh when one british colleague tried to teach me how to recycle

edites as:

I forgot to mention earlier, my dad also isolated our house aditionally (don't ask me how, I have no clue about that) however, he explained that that way it says longer warm then it would otherwise and our house is mainly heated by wood only a little is additionally used with heaters...and gosh did I hate as a child the yearly delivery of the wood

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 6:55:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a hard time recycling.  I just don't understand how we save the world by making twice as many, if not three times as many trucks drive around the city polluting and ruining the roads. all so they can pick up garbage and take it to, yet a new polluting plant in some off the wall area of the city outskirts to sort and reprocess the garbage into useless things like sponges and plastic bags.  The only thing I recycle is tin, and that is because you get paid to do it.

I am all for steam-punk style recycling, building houses out of tires cars planks of wood and all sorts of other shit. (assuming you live in a climate where that is possible.)  fixing cars with wood, or other off the wall random thing you found to fix it with.

Anyways, landfills after years of working on them (which is constantly being done) they become some of the most fertile and cheap lands.

Ionno, recycling just sounds stupid to me, triple pollution to make shitty products.

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 8:03:39 PM   
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I saw this on the local news a few nights ago, and am going to give it a shot if I can get in anywhere that's close to home.

http://www.localharvest.org/csa/


That sounds like a great idea! Actually, though, we have farmers that come to town and set up a little farmer's market over here, not too far from the square.




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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 8:07:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterBelial

I have a hard time recycling. I just don't understand how we save the world by making twice as many, if not three times as many trucks drive around the city polluting and ruining the roads. all so they can pick up garbage and take it to, yet a new polluting plant in some off the wall area of the city outskirts to sort and reprocess the garbage into useless things like sponges and plastic bags. The only thing I recycle is tin, and that is because you get paid to do it.

I am all for steam-punk style recycling, building houses out of tires cars planks of wood and all sorts of other shit. (assuming you live in a climate where that is possible.) fixing cars with wood, or other off the wall random thing you found to fix it with.

Anyways, landfills after years of working on them (which is constantly being done) they become some of the most fertile and cheap lands.

Ionno, recycling just sounds stupid to me, triple pollution to make shitty products.



Perhaps you should take a look at this, maybe then you'll see the importance of recycling. Better yet, the importance of ceasing to manufacture products and other items from plastic.

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RE: How green is your hometown? - 3/4/2010 8:10:21 PM   
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Seeing things like this make me very sad. I don't think it's right that any sentient being suffers in the wake of mankind's so called progress. In the end, we're ultimately hurting ourselves. Still, though, pictures like this break my heart.

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