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for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 5:45:34 PM   
kisshou


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Status: offline 		the Owner bought home the most adorable dog. Her name is Jasmyn and she is 3 years old. He adopted her from the humane society. She is really timid and shy and she never barks. She is so cuddly and loves to curl up next to you. I totally love her and can tell she is ultra submissive like me. I walk her four times a day. There are many dogs in our new neighborhood. The dogs all run around in their fenced in back yards and bark at us when we walk by. Jasmyn completely ignores them , she never even looks over or barks back.

The thing I am worried about and need advice from all you dog lovers is, what should I do if I am out walking her and another dog runs up or tries to fight with her.  Sometimes there have been dogs that have gotten loose.

When I walk her , I have her on a leash and the baby in a stroller.  Also other dogs do scare me.

I have thought about carrying a baseball bat in the bottom of the stroller.

Jasmyn came with a cd which showed me how to teach her sit and lay down. I think she is doing really well with the sit command.

Gosh I almost started crying writing this post because my whole life I have wanted a dog and she is so incredibly wonderful. I hug her and kiss her all the time, I just worry that I am not doing everything right.

Also how often should I bathe her?

Any advice will be so appreciated

thanks
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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 6:45:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		You could always carry a little squirtgun filled with vinegar or amonia....if another dog approaches, just squirt it in the face. The amonia will definatly make it think twice. Trust me, after getting bitten in the butt while bike riding, I learned quickly lol.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 6:51:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		as a person who is working with dogs almost everyday, the best suggestion is to probably to take something with you that you can stop a dog with, something blunt that you could shove between a dogs jaws incase of attack. baseball bats work, however I doubt you'll have a problem, most dogs bark for show and aren't mean at all, just remember  don't provoke them and try not to be afraid and you should be fine

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 6:57:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd also suggest bringing your cell phone and reporting a roaming dog immediately to your town's dog warden.  A roaming dog isn't just dangerous to your dog, but to you and the baby.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 7:11:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a dog behaviourist& groomer, specializing in aggessive dogs.  If you see a dog coming, the first action is to step between the dogs, before there is an issue and be very assertive, warning the offleash dog to go away with a loud and firm NO. (Do NOT do this with an ATTACKING dog!)  If this doesn't work, there are some citronella sprays on the market now called stop attack, I believe. It is intended to stop the dog in it's track with the offensive smell, but will not harm the animal.  Similar to citronella bark collars.  If you cannot find this, a spray bottle of vinegar/water is effective for most (but not all) dogs.  Also, and air horn is another idea.

as for bathing...  it is said that human shampoos have a different Ph level than dogs.  Dogs will get intense yeast infections of the skins that can be amazingly expensive to cure.  You have to use your own discretion on this.  Most higher end pet stores will carry pet shampoos (anything without flea medication in it) that will be useful and safe. I have a long haird dog that I bath once a week.  When bathing that frequently, do also use a dog conditioner.  Not only will it assist in fresh smelling...it will keep dirt from sticking to the coat longer.

Good luck & be safe.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 7:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Usually they say not to wash a dog any more often than once every two weeks, but I do tend to wash our yorkie once a week sometimes since he has a tendency to get stinky sometimes.  You tend to notice that when you've got a dog attached to your hip.  When you do wash, make sure to use something that won't dry their skin out.  I use baby shampoo on ours, and use head and shoulders dry scalp care on every 3rd wash.  It’s debatable that human shampoos aren't safe on dogs, but one can argue the same about those meant for dogs.  As long as its not drying and you rinse really well you should be fine with almost anything you use (other than flea and tick products, those are dangerous.)

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 7:36:52 PM   
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Also how often should I bathe her?


At least once a year...  whether she needs it or not...

Seriously... Congratulations... from one dog lover to another...

Dekley


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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/29/2006 7:57:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		You didn't say what breed your new dog is.  Some dogs require shampooing and other grooming measures much more frequently than others, and for others, bathing should only be done on rare occasions due to the animal's tendency towards sensitive skin (as in the case of Rottweilers).
 
As for the other dogs in the neighborhood... odds are you won't have a problem, but you've gotten some good advice for "just in case."  I carried a can of "police issue riot control agent" (actually purchased from the police department) when I walked my shepherd many years ago, simply because if an animal was going to be aggressive towards him, he'd get aggressive back and I'd never get them separated.   Only had to use it once, and it was with my own two dogs! (the other one was part wolf)  One spray, and they were both down for about 10 minutes.  Never fought after that.


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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/30/2006 5:25:07 AM   
kisshou


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Status: offline 		Thank you all so much for the great advice, I would love to hear more!

Twice in the past week there have been dogs off leashes, once it was a tiny 'weiner' dog who barked like crazy but it just made me laugh.  The second time was a full blooded pit bull who came tearing half way down its driveway barking and growling. Thankfully it stopped halfway down, this dog is very well trained and has never been on  a collar or leash. It lives next door to us. The wife tried to have her meet Jasmyn but while Jasmyn  didn't bark and just tried to lick her , the other dog got mad and growled and nipped at Jasmyn, so we immediately separated them.

How hard is it for dogs to make friends with each other?

Jasmyn is part whippet with some pit bull (she has a pink nose), she is medium size about 30 lbs.

I wonder if the people before that had her were mean to her because she seems to flinch alot.

The other weird things she does is eat grass, I give her water and Science Diet dry food.

Also if anyone can recommend a book, I would love some suggestions.




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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/30/2006 5:57:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		kisshou,

First let me say that when a dog charges and stops it is partially because it is defending it terrotory and does not view you as a true threat.  if it did view you as a true threat, it would continue the charge and may do bodily , if not mental, harm to you.

Secondly a whippet is a very skitich dog anyway and that in itself may account for the actions of your dog.  Even though it has some Pitt Bull in it it still may have the whippet temperment.

As to eating grass, when a dog begins eating grass it is time for a check up at your local vet with a nutritional blood test to determine what is missing from their diet. And the main reason you want to do this??? The next step is to start eatting their stool to recover lost nutrients.  So if your dog is eating grass, and no science diet is not all inclusive for a dogs diet, it's time to find out why.  Remember grass contains high amounts of chloiphil (not sure of the spelling) which can often be a good means of quieting a sour stomach in animals.

These, of course, are just my thoughts and if anyone has any better information please feel free to be open with it.

Sir Pain

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/30/2006 6:06:14 AM   
PainsPleasure


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Status: offline 		Evanesce,

I read your post with interest.  I'll bet that police spray cost a bit.  Many years ago my family had an older woman who came in once a week and cleaned and dusted and such other chores as my parents both worked and my mother didn't have time to do all these chores.

One day I saw a squirt pistol in her purse and being the inquisitive twelve year old that I was, i asked why she had it and what it was for.

She told me that it was filled with a very cheap, Five and Dime, perfume.  She further told me that she used it on dogs that tried to attack her as she walked to the bus stop.  I tried it years later when I was with the DOD Police and found it worked very well and in addition didn't hurt the dogs and was cheap enough to use as much as was needed.

Sir Pain

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/30/2006 6:27:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		a good mix of breed and if it happen to be a red nose pit they are the sweethearts of the pit bulls and very conditional and attentive .. bathing... you can once a week I would use a oatmeal bath soap for dog most pet stores and super marketds will carry this... as for eating grass does she throw it back up? if she does the food is upsetting her stomach ... if not I would not worry too much but stop her from doing so as grass has insects attached sometimes and she can contract worms so if she continues I would see a vet  about a proper worming and what they suggest ...

a rubber brush -=some  are like hand mitts= is all you will need to groom her do not get anything wired. the rubber will take out any loose unwanted hair.

as for other dogs since YOU do not know the other dog that is charging DO NOT step between.. nor put your baby carriage between but I do suggest a bottle of half ammonia half water to hang off the handle of carriage set to stream to zap charging dog.... the bitter apple or citronella is good to keep dog from chewing things but Will NOT STOP  a charging dog just make him less likely to get mosquito bites.  if it was a serious deterant they would not make collars out of it for the dog would go spastic from the smell around the neck.

I do not suggest the riot spray since you are walking with your child as blow back would be devistating to the infant..

why not a baseball bat?

by the time you fumble it out most likly the other dog will be ontop of your dog a no nonscense approch with the ammonia and remember to keep down spray back set it to stream..


all ideas were good but as a dog trainer and since there was a child involved in these  walks  I just made suggestions that were the safest and most effective but bstill judst My opinions..

oh yah and after you spray the dog good ...  never run away just continue walking at a slightly faster pace.






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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/30/2006 6:36:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I used to manage a upscale dog kennel and we had all our handlers carry pepper spray. The best thing to do is if you see another dog, guide your dog away in the opposite direction. If you have an encounter chances are they will just sniff each other and go their separate ways, particulary since your dog is a female. Most fights are started by males with other males (usually unneutered). HOWEVER I own a alpha female and she will fight males and females! so if a fight does break out NEVER get in between the dogs or try to grab them, they will bite you as they are engaged in combat and they can't tell you from the other dog. I had to drive a noob handler to the hospital even after she'd been taught to stay out from between a pair of raging dogs, it was NOT a pretty sight. If you have a child in a stroller get that baby out of there, he/she is at their jaw level and could easily be bitten badly. If you can get a bucket of water or a water hose that should break them apart. The key is prevention stop the fight before it starts if possible.

Good luck and dogs rock, I have 4

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 3/31/2006 2:52:52 PM   
kisshou


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Status: offline 		http://intercom.virginia.edu/SurveySuite/Surveys/PlantDog/

While doing some more research I found this link, it is a survey for dog owners whose dogs chew grass. So if it applys you can take a minute out and help them with the research. This is being done by a University.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 4/1/2006 10:06:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm.. I think bathing your dog less than once a week would be bad for it, it would make it itchy and take away too many oils.  However, if you have to due to smelliness or whatever, they do sell dog wipes that are ok for every day use.  A Petsmart or dog store should have them.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 4/1/2006 3:03:55 PM   
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Damn I thought everyone was gonna be talking kinky in here LMFKAO

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 4/1/2006 9:38:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like the idea of carrying around some pepper spray.. If you are going to be out walking with an infant and dog, it would be added protection not just against an attack from a canine but serve a dual purpose (its original purpose lol) as protecting you from an attack from a person.  You'd get to used to having it in your purse, and could take it with you everywhere.

And congrats on the new dog!  I love dogs!!  And whippets and pit bulls are just so dang cool. :)  I'm sure she'll be an absolute sweetheart!

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 4/1/2006 10:07:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 9 year old St. Bernard so when I take him to the park  other dogs bark at him and he is more that able and willing to bark at other dogs.  I won't let him bark though.  There was a time that another big dog was off his leash.  They amost got in a big fight but I managed to keep my dog from the other dog. 

I do wish I would have had something to spary on the dog. There is also the possiblility that if what ever you spray on the dog might hurt it and you might need to pay the vet bills.   One thing I do carry is a cell phone in case of emergency.

As for bathing I do that once a year unless he gets into something that smells and needs a bath. Also being that he is such a big dog it is not easy to get him in the bathtub except when he sleeps in the tub.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 4/2/2006 1:54:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		She must be an interesting mix, sounds pretty though, but on the topic of off leash dogs, I worl with a lot that don't get along and most of the time it isn't the guys fighting, it's  the girls. There is one particularly bad black lab, constantly fights with the other girls in her group when going out, she basically throws a tantrum when she doesn't get to come out first. After that we started letting her go out first then letting the other girls out, she was fine after that, just an Alpha Female reaction. And before I forget Pittbulls are pretty territorial and if challeneged can be highly aggressive, depending on the training. Oh and as for books there is an author who does books on dog care and dog behavior, Bruce Fogle , he's a vet and I have a few of his books you can find them on amazon.com.

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RE: for the Dog lovers - 12/24/2006 8:27:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		My college days were spent  in the study if animal science and genetics.   so  i hope that i can consider myself qulaified to  help with your concerns...

as for dogs that are out of control , or that pose a threat to you  or your pet.   unless you have some knowledge of  the dog in question , and  their disposition....you  must assume that they are going to hurt you  or your pet.  with this in mind,  it would not be  a bad idea to carry  pepper spray.  i know , it sounds alittle  overboard.  However,  the alternative is not acceptable !!   next,  notify the local  animal control  deparment.  voice your concerns .. and request a plan  of action from them . 
in closing ... love those tats.

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