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Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 11:56:30 AM   
hawkmoonelric


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I heard an amusing anectdote on the radio program "This American Life".
Some male geeks at MIT decided to crunch some numbers to calculate their actual
chances of finding a girlfriend.

They researched local statistics. Percentage of poulation that is female in a certain radius; percentage of that group within a certain age bracket, percentage of that group that are single; percentage of that group with other attributes....etcetera.

It was incredibly depressing.  Imagine adding in the requirement that the woman be into your specific kinks, and it just turns absurd.
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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 12:01:27 PM   
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I wouldn't be so depressed, its about chemistry, not maths.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 12:30:00 PM   
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Look at the bright side.  All those geeks are busy crunching numbers while you can be meeting women.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 4:48:24 PM   
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Findind the perfect partner. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 5:23:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hawkmoonelric

It was incredibly depressing.  Imagine adding in the requirement that the woman be into your specific kinks, and it just turns absurd.



How about instead of some mental masturbation you get out and start enjoying life. 

"If you trust in yourself ... and believe in your dreams...and follow your star...you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy"  ~ Miss Tick

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/30/2010 8:31:18 PM   
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Well see, this is why we absolutely must work harder to raise the level of acceptance of homosexuality in society- for every man who accepts his gayness, means one less competitor for the pool of females.

I personally distribute videos of La Cage Aux Folles and Judy Garland musicals to school campuses, and plaster rainbow bumper stickers on pickup trucks outside honytonk bars.

I hack into men's E-Harmony accounts and send love notes to other men, hoping to strike up some romances among men who had no idea they might be gay.

In the locker rooms of health clubs I drop 5 dollar bills on the floor, hoping that when naked men bend over to pick it up, nature will take over and do its work.

You know how women sometimes say "Not if you were the last straight man on earth!"?

I'm working on it.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/31/2010 10:10:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Look at the bright side.  All those geeks are busy crunching numbers while you can be meeting women.

I don't think he has the time.  He appears too busy focusing on the negative aspect of everything in his life and whining about it on internet forums.  I think those geeks will be getting some before he will.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/31/2010 2:59:18 PM   
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that is interesting.

Thanks for the post.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/31/2010 3:00:29 PM   
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http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Archive.aspx   1-15 show.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 1/31/2010 3:24:28 PM   
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I LOVE This American Life! 

If I remember that show correctly, the experiment used as an example a guy looking for an available woman in Boston, with a graduate level or above education, about his age, etc. - you get the point: The more limiting factors that go into the equation, and the more limiting those factors are (ie. how close to his age does she hafta be, does it hafta be actually IN Boston or can she be within a couple hours drive, etc.) the smaller the pool of possible mates.

In this case the guy's major limiting factors (again, if memory serves) were his insistence that she live in Boston like him, be about his age, and the high education level that he wanted, to match his. Basically he seemed to be looking for someone just like him, except female.


Picky is good. Too picky? Not so much. 

The secret to any kind of search like this is volume. Increasing his search area, lowering the education requirement, or increasing his age perameters all would give him a wider pool of possibilities.



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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 12:53:47 AM   
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OK, here's the plan. We go through the Gay male profiles wherever. We get like twenty of them over to Hunky's place. He should have a blast. Then if we can get say three couples out of the deal that means there are twelve more wimmens for us.

Twice a month could net us 288 wimmens a year. But we just start there. Once he is going on we find another hot spot to make. That's 576 a year, but we don't stop there. We just keep getting these places where they can hook up and in a matter of years there will be so many wimmens out there we won't know what to do with ourself. Maybe we just won't ever have to do it with ourself.

Who's in ?

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 1:24:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

Picky is good. Too picky? Not so much. 

That's only because we tend to place greater value on getting something instead of nothing.

The odds are astronomical, yes. But statistics are frequently misleading, despite their factuality. For instance...when you sit down to play a game of bridge and are dealt your starting hand, the odds of you having been dealt that exact hand are less than 600 billion to 1.

To say it's about chemistry, however, misses the point that the potential for chemistry is itself based on chance and luck and astronomical figures.

We're a gambling species, though.


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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 5:17:31 AM   
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How about instead of some mental masturbation you get out and start enjoying life. 

I agree.  Believe me, hawkmoonelric, geeks can get action.

The "enjoying" part is key.  Be someone a woman would enjoy being around, and, as if by magic, women will enjoy being around you.

I would write more, but I have to read a few more scammer profiles instead.


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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 7:45:43 AM   
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If you want to beat the odds, you need to be better than average.  Meeting people isn't random - either you're doing something to help your chances of success or you're doing something to hinder yourself.  

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 3:04:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BreathandStone

If you want to beat the odds, you need to be better than average.  Meeting people isn't random - either you're doing something to help your chances of success or you're doing something to hinder yourself.  

And yet, the hilarious thing is how often you'll find people telling you how they finally found someone when they stopped looking (or at least they suggest you should mimic that view).

It's enough to confuse anyone!

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/1/2010 11:58:42 PM   
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Ummm yeah. Never look. You walk into a bar like Howard Hughes OK, fine. But I can get as many broads stank after work and half drunk. You don't dote, just plan, and find some common ground. Something to talk about. If it happens it happens, if not go away and leave her alone. If she comes back just be calm, you may not have won yet. Remain seemingly uninterested in anything but casual conversation. It's the quickest way to the bedroom.

Dog them and tell them how beautiful they are and dote on them, they might just puke on you.

Mr. Zero speaks truth. If you want something, stop looking for it.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/2/2010 4:53:26 AM   
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If you insist that the other person be interested in everything you are interested in, of course you won't meet anyone. What you need is to be interested in other people and therefore curious about what they enjoy, being open to learning more. At which point you should not find it that difficult to find someone who is also interested in you and learning about you and what you enjoy.

Basically, remove the it's all about me factor.

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/2/2010 11:30:48 PM   
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Oh Des, that is just thinking on your feet. If she is not interested in the intended object of discussion find another, in fact let her bring it up. You are interested no matter how uninterested you are. The first idea is to open a clear channel of communication. This is how, but then you have to share the convo, you must follow her a bit, but you must lead a bit as well. Bring up something you like.

So you might have a couple of drinks, if you don't find common ground, if you don't click, just move on. And do it as politely as possible. She might have friends and go to them and say "Hey, I met this dude who you might like". BINGO. And if any male expects to get layed the first meeting, what you are looking for is a romp, not a Woman. Then you just have to run on physical attraction and pure lust. You could just pick up a hooker.

If you really connect it is the greatest thing in the world, and that is why people try too hard. Like playing a couple of hundred in lotto numbers. You might as well just play one. Reason ?

Because relatively you are not making a significant decrese in the odds with a cover bet that small. When I make a cover bet it is the fourth in a series of across the board bets at the track. I have already discussed this and will not bore you with it, but in that case I am certainly betting one sure loser. It is still to my advantage mathematically.

And remember this, good things can come from the strangest of places. I would probably be happier with a hoe from the honky tonk down the street than an uptown girl. Especially if I don't have to teach her how to cook.

How's that work into the equation ?

T

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RE: Playing the Numbers - 2/2/2010 11:35:59 PM   
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Well, the numbers may seem depressing, but there is another way of looking at it.

In the words of Eric Cartman (South Park), "I only need one, dude.  I only need one".


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