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Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 6:50:54 PM

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Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device

Now this is a judge with some balls and brains (at least attempting) to do what the parents obviously don't do. His motives are spot on and I really hope it succeeds. Parents and schools alike have become too complacent in this matter. Education is more important than ever if today's youth wants to succeed in life.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 6:57:27 PM

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It won't last. Some parents will get a lawyer and say its unconstitutional or something. and really, a school doesn't have the right to put tracking devices on its students anyway. Its the parents job to make sure the kid goes to school.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 7:06:16 PM

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The school did not give the kids the GPS, a civil judge handed down the order. The law in most (if not all) states is quite clear, your children must attend school!

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 7:08:25 PM

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quote:

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It won't last. Some parents will get a lawyer and say its unconstitutional or something. and really, a school doesn't have the right to put tracking devices on its students anyway. Its the parents job to make sure the kid goes to school.

Parents have a duty but actually it's the law. That's why a judge is involved. We make adults wear anklets under house arrest. This isn't terribly different. A lawyer can say all they want and this isn't the school's doing - it's the court.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 7:08:55 PM

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We have gotten this strange idea in this country that schools should surpass parenting. There are things that I hear about in the news, that parents whine to the news about, but that's all they do - when, if those were my kids, we'd register to home school the next day.

the sad truth is, this is most likely handed down to kids whose parents are not sure anymore how to handle them, and are all to glad to ahve the courts take the actions they themselves don't have the balls to take.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 7:31:21 PM

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This is where I suppose home schooling.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/20/2010 7:33:18 PM

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Parents have a duty but actually it's the law. That's why a judge is involved. We make adults wear anklets under house arrest. This isn't terribly different. A lawyer can say all they want and this isn't the school's doing - it's the court.

I agree but its still not a school or judges place to put tracking devices on people kids to make them attend. Hold the parents responsible. As you said it is the parents duty to make sure they do.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/21/2010 8:43:44 AM

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The problem is that I am betting most of these parents are single mothers working dead end jobs who have to leave the house before the bus comes. They wake up the kids and the kids swear they will get up and go to school, but don't. Maybe if the court would get child support out of the absentee fathers, the mothers could afford job training to get a better job that starts later in the day.

Same for home schooling, you can't do that if you're working two jobs to keep a roof over your head.

Honestly, two weeks in juvenile hall would be a better solution. The kids would learn that there really is something worse than school out there.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/21/2010 3:17:38 PM

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How about finding out why the kid is playing truant in the first place, and starting from there?

I speak from experience. I played truant a lot in my last three years of schooling, did a lot of detention, different things were tried, but nobody ever really sat down with me and talked with me over why I actually chose not to go to school.

I tell you for why I played truant. I ran away from home a couple of times due to my parents being divorced and as I was educated in the 'streaming system' they downgraded me from the top stream to the middle stream, so when I went to school and attended lessons I knew all of what was being taught anyway and it became boring.

I thought I knew it all. Actually I knew sod all but I didn't realize that until I had turned 19. But if you had tagged me at 15 for not going to school I sure would have found another way to rebel and it might have had more serious consequences.

It's very easy to find fault and apportion the blame in such a situation but I feel it's much better to look at it, with the kid included, as a problem solution type of scenario.

Truancy is a cop out, it's not facing up to problems, it's avoiding or running away from your problems and I feel that this is where you should confront the kid and say 'right, you think you're adult enough not to be in school, but are you adult enough to face up to your own issues and deal with them in an adult way?'

Truancy can be caused by all sorts of things, bullying, a difficult home situation, problems with a teacher, a lack of discipline, and it's all very well saying the kid 'should' do this and 'must' do this, but hardly any teenager aged 15 or 16 thinks like we do and they certainly don't have our life experience, insight or knowledge.

That saying, there's no excuse not to get an education, no excuse at all. I personally think that community service is the way forward when dealing with truancy. Once the kid discovers that they could be spending a lot of evenings and weekends doing menial work or shovelling shit then school will probably become much more attractive.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/21/2010 3:39:34 PM

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quote:

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I agree but its still not a school or judges place to put tracking devices on people kids to make them attend. Hold the parents responsible. As you said it is the parents duty to make sure they do.

How exactly do you define 'hold the parents responsible' ? I'm not challenging your statement - I just would like a detailed explanation of what you feel we should do to the parents to make them accountable in these cases.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/21/2010 6:43:36 PM

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The drop out rate in Milwaukee's inner city is over 50%. And everyone can't figure out why they can't get a job. Kudos to the judge. It still won't solve the problem of kids with 1 parent who usually are not involved.

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RE: Judge Orders Truants to Carry GPS Tracking Device - 1/22/2010 12:24:55 PM

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In Austin the parents are ressponsible for making the child go to school. No excuses whatsoever.

that being said, Lizard makes sure she goes to school. She is quite independent. I only get on her case about her grades (improving now since she switched geography teachers). She has been asbent a few times, most of it pertaining to Aunt Flo. Her father makes sure she is up when he leaves (he has to ride the bus to work). You can see the track of the school from the front stoop of the building.

To me, the judge is taking it a bit far and in reality is discriminating. What is the child cannot go to school because of peer pressure or bullying? What is the teacher is mocking the child (like Lizard's former teacher was doing)? there are several factors that has to be addressed before taking it to the extreme.

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