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Silence8 -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 1:55:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: antipode

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what's your thought at how the law of S:D might apply on CM?


You're stretching way beyond reality, dude. Said law applies to commercial transactions - you could apply it only where prostitution is legal. I would concentrate more on R/L than on college wisdom.



This is why the expression 'market yourself' sort of makes me want to puke.

Still, one thing is certain -- it's better to be owned than rented.





VaguelyCurious -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 2:13:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit



As for the false idea that there are a lot of people on here not actually into BDSM, that is most often held by people that define BDSM as "what I am interested in." 

There are a lot of people that are sadists or masochists that think Dominants and Submissives are not "real" because they have no interest in pain.  Similarly there are a lot of Doms and Subs that think masochists aren't "real" because they are not submissive enough and that sadists are not "real" because they are not dominant enough.

Not to mention how people treat embarrassment players if you don't enjoy their form (you want me to wear WHAT?)

Be clear about what you want - embarrassment, sensation, or control - and accept the fact that not everyone here wants to do exactly what you want to do.  That doesn't mean they are liars or fakes.




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I think that is where the greatest difficulty with any algorithm would lie.




goober -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 2:17:20 PM)

people change over time. How is that to be factored into an equation?




Prinsexx -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 2:18:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pompeii

What do YOU think the basic S:D criteria are for meeting someone here on CM?

Someone asked the classic how-many-people-do-you-actually-meet-on-cm question and I provided the basic "keep trying but YMMV" answer ... and then got to wondering about my college courses decreeing the "law" of supply and demand.

Assuming the theory holds true for our kinky world, what's your thought at how the law of S:D might apply on CM?


Doms demand it. Subs supply it.
I don't think there's a S:D model for that. Not on any course I teach on any way.




DemonKia -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 4:57:08 PM)

FR, after read thru

lol

Okay. I was a stat major. I love thinking quantitatively, probabilistically, & analytically, so I find the notion to be a hoot.

The critique of greatest salience is that humans 'operate' on thousands of levels, thus thousands of variables that need accounting & controlling for. Sounds daunting until we remember we're using computers, here, lol. That makes it a smidge less daunting, computers can crunch that data. Some clever math monkey still needs to set up the hypothesis, elucidate the variables (definitions, ranges, etc), obtain data, & etc, but it's very doable . . . . .

I tend to think of an 'algorithm' as being (a) recursive function(s), but that may just be the color of my recall & that I'm too lazy to wiki right this moment . . . .

Anyways, OKCupid is using some combo of their 'Match Questions' & the (mostly user-created) tests to provide probabilistic match estimates for users of the site . . . .. If'n ya didn't know . . . . .

lol

It matched me to someone in my local out-&-organized-kink community, which was funny as hell, especially as it was not a match after all. But it was amusing for both of us, we laughed about it at the recent munch . . .. .

Which demonstrates that, while OKC's ostensibly a generalized dating / social-networking site, there are kinksters using it, & it can match the kinky up, so, it gets some points from me for that . . . . .

Anyways, regardless of site, I tend to think it's as much or more about how the users make use of these sites (en toto) as it as about the sites themselves or who else is using them.

For instance, clearly, the trick to making most effective use of CM is to participate in the message boards & / or the chat (text or video) on a regular basis. Similarly, the best use of online dating / socializing sources seems to be as a supplement to one's real-life interactions.

& I wanna especially note the power of 'frequenting' a scene. Being a regular to a variety of social scenes in combination with patience & persistence, seems most likely to have the greatest associated yield curve . . . . . .

[:D]

Ah, as for that whole supply-demand thing, huh, ya know, I generally work it a slightly different way. I tend to think of it in more of a marketing framework (I know, marketing is evil, but I am a demon, after all, lol). I think of myself as being, at my most optimistic, a one-in-a-million taste. This yields an expected possibilities space of approximately 6,700-ish persons. (If I was strictly monosexual (ie, hetero or homo), then that space would be some 3,350-ish, natch.) On my more pessimistic days I figure I'm closer to a one-in-a-billion taste & my potential 'market' is more like 6 or 7 people on the planet . . . . . ...

I guess I don't really get too hung up on potential supply-demand issues cuz there's 6.7+ billion people available to choose from, I've probably only met in the tens or hundreds of thousands of those people, & there's still an awful lot of people left to meet . . . . . .

[;)]




peppermint -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:01:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Hey when I signed up for this, nobody told me there would be math.


If they bring calculus into this, I'm outta here. 




KatyLied -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:11:36 PM)

I simply hope that the good dominant does not get lost in the noise to signal ratio.  It is difficult for me to get excited about anything when I get cock shot emails or get a nice message only to find that the guy notes he is "well hung" on his profile.  It makes me think that the cool, stable, witty, smart, interesting dominant is non-existent.  It is not a whine, just an observation.  The more discerning you are; the more difficult it is to find a suitable partner.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:20:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Hey when I signed up for this, nobody told me there would be math.


If they bring calculus into this, I'm outta here. 



But calculus is pretty!




DemonKia -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:48:21 PM)

Oh, my, yes. & algebra. & geometry. & symbolic logic. & combinatorics. & topology. & matrices. & poor despised derivatives, so currently reviled.

Mmmmmmmmmmm, math . .. . . ..




osf -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:52:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I simply hope that the good dominant does not get lost in the noise to signal ratio.  It is difficult for me to get excited about anything when I get cock shot emails or get a nice message only to find that the guy notes he is "well hung" on his profile.  It makes me think that the cool, stable, witty, smart, interesting dominant is non-existent.  It is not a whine, just an observation.  The more discerning you are; the more difficult it is to find a suitable partner.



i thought doms by definition were bad




KatyLied -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 5:53:59 PM)

It is possible to be a wickedly bad man and still possess the qualities I value.




sexyred1 -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/16/2010 10:20:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I simply hope that the good dominant does not get lost in the noise to signal ratio.  It is difficult for me to get excited about anything when I get cock shot emails or get a nice message only to find that the guy notes he is "well hung" on his profile.  It makes me think that the cool, stable, witty, smart, interesting dominant is non-existent.  It is not a whine, just an observation.  The more discerning you are; the more difficult it is to find a suitable partner.



Amen sister!




Elipsis -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 2:29:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The ability to make a woman believe that she would really enjoy spending time with you. 



This is of course an important factor.  One thing that ties into, but is distinctly different from, intelligence is articulation.  You can be very intelligent but lack communication skills.  The ability to effectively communication your interests and be perceived as appealing is hard to quantify, but it certainly drastically affects the outcome of someone's willingness to invest time and energy on you.




allthatjaz -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 4:38:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I try not to engage mathmatical equations until I have had at least 4 cups of coffee in the morning. But I did wish to point out something I have noticed here, on bondage, on alt, and fet, in the last few years. More people have listed switch on their stats and a surprising amount have gone from hetrosexual, to hetroFLEXIBLE.

I wonder if it is the desire to have anything which has driven the change. Trade offs to top or bottom.. and opting for either sex ((shudder)), to experience some play.





Or I wonder if its part of the journey of discovery for most of them!. I don't think we should suggest that these are cries of desperation from those who just can't find what they want. Whilst its true that some have to broaden their outlook and its quite plausible that some list themselves as switches/bi/bi curious to increase the chance of finding a partner, there's nothing shudder worthy about it for them because the curiosity has to be genuine or they wouldn't be going there in the first place
Its better to have a little bit of something than a whole load of nothing!







VaguelyCurious -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 6:16:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: osf


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I simply hope that the good dominant does not get lost in the noise to signal ratio.  It is difficult for me to get excited about anything when I get cock shot emails or get a nice message only to find that the guy notes he is "well hung" on his profile.  It makes me think that the cool, stable, witty, smart, interesting dominant is non-existent.  It is not a whine, just an observation.  The more discerning you are; the more difficult it is to find a suitable partner.



i thought doms by definition were bad


Good as in high quality-I'm pretty sure good doms exist in that sense.
:-p




Prinsexx -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 6:16:25 AM)

If

D
--  = N
S

S
-   = T
D

whar is the summation of D + S?
(I've nothing else better to do).






VaguelyCurious -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 6:19:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Oh, my, yes. & algebra. & geometry. & symbolic logic. & combinatorics. & topology. & matrices. & poor despised derivatives, so currently reviled.

Mmmmmmmmmmm, math . .. . . ..


You have to love a good matrix :-D
Is it bad that I felt I had to defend the good name of calculus?
Should I back away from the textbook?!




osf -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 7:34:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

It is possible to be a wickedly bad man and still possess the qualities I value.


but without really bad badness is the other important?




DemonKia -> RE: Discussion of basic algorithms for the law of S:D (supply & demand) on CM (1/17/2010 3:11:30 PM)

How to calculate the true variability of humans without linear algebra, huh?

&, nah, it's charmingly geeky that you felt impelled to defend derivatives & integration, lol . . . . . . . . Continue caressing the texts all ya want . . . . .

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

You have to love a good matrix :-D
Is it bad that I felt I had to defend the good name of calculus?
Should I back away from the textbook?!




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