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lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 1:41:12 AM   
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i am considering buying a home here in canada a large home and useing it as a residance for lifestyle only persons . taht is to be clear only those who wish to live this life style all the time . it would be based the same as any other residance. that means there would be rent ect.. the diferance is lifestyle only .
my question is simpley this do you the members feel it has a chance of success based on that .

further it would be set up for those who are older over 45 so in their later years they have a place and like so many are not shunted to the sides based on age
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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 1:45:35 AM   
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People over 45 are in their "later years"? 

Personally I wouldn't be interested in renting a place with someone just because they are kinky and I wouldn't be living a 24/7 lifestyle with them unless they were my Master. 

I wish you all the best in this endeavour if you go ahead with it though


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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 1:54:10 AM   
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in part you took the comment out of contex based i would imagine on my incorrecft manner of expressing it . i was seeking to know if there are those interested in living in a lifestyle house were what they believe how they choose to dress or act in their later years is not condemmed by oterhs it is not meant as a house of kink for the old in that seance . take for example the crossdresser who is overweight and older considered by many when dressed to be a joke this would as an easy to express example allow for themm or afford them a place werethey could live in the manner chosen for otehrs that would based on preferances be determined by them in that . i thank you for your reply and it helped me clear it up as to how i meant it thank you

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 2:07:27 AM   
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Thank you for the clarification

In that case I think it might appeal to crossdressers and others who maybe have not been able to be themselves in their rental accommodation.  For myself as a s type, I don't need to dress in fetish wear or go around in shackles to know that I am owned which is why it wouldn't appeal to me


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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 2:10:38 AM   
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To each their own... I can think of a hunderd things to spend hard earned money on that have an actual ROI.

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 5:26:55 AM   
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I can see interest in a community, like a cam[pground style thing with many separate cabins that are rentable, or a cul de sac with several houses in a gated all kink community.

But one house? Great. I am practicing my kink and I know the guy in the next room is listening through the walls and wanking to it? Uh, no.

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 5:45:05 AM   
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Hi Op
What you are stating, providing I am understanding it correctly, reminds me of the communes in the 60's. A place for like minded folks..now the same just like-minded folks who have gotten older. If it is something that interests you, then perhaps start to research it, as you are by bringing it to the boards.

At times throughout my life, I have also thought of starting a commune for like minded people, but didn't. Main reasons is that unfortunately communes many times don't work. A lot of shoulds and politics get brought in, and the managing of the egos. That is just me though, plus sadly i really am not a people person. Maybe a commune of animals would be better for me;)

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 5:56:28 AM   
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I'm 100% for the idea of co-housing and intentional communities and I see your OP as being similar in nature.  That being said, I would suggest you keep in mind that one person's kink is not another's.  Just because your home would be open to kinky folks (btw, as someone who is fast approaching 45, I don't think I would consider that "later years") it doesn't follow that veryone would be comfortable sharing space.

I think you may be onto an interesting concept but I also feel you have a long way to go before you consider buying space and setting up house. You may want to look into some co-housing/intentional community websites to get an idea of what would be your best approach. Like Drifa said...multi homes might be a better idea on a piece of property instead of one space.

Best of luck! 

edited to add..... here's a great website to get you started  http://www.ic.org/

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:00:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mrdpettigrew

i am considering buying a home here in canada a large home and useing it as a residance for lifestyle only persons . taht is to be clear only those who wish to live this life style all the time . it would be based the same as any other residance. that means there would be rent ect.. the diferance is lifestyle only .
my question is simpley this do you the members feel it has a chance of success based on that .

further it would be set up for those who are older over 45 so in their later years they have a place and like so many are not shunted to the sides based on age


I say sure. It can work.

Not sure how many people would do it though. Just an idea: Maybe you could get people interested if you were to offer hosting get-a-ways and group meetings so people could get to know you.

I thought of doing something similar in Alaska. Individual cabins on a remote lake and all. Not so much as commune style living as it would be for get-a-ways


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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:19:47 AM   
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oh man... it would make for some fun... and then there would be visitors occasionally... like some grand children or sollicitors.... oh dear...

maybe start a holiday camp, a hotel or bed and breakfast that caters to kink.... but a residential home? like a commune? with you as uber Dom at the head?

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:37:21 AM   
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I don't know Canadian law, but in the US, it would be illegal to put in an age requirement (unless it's specified to be over 55 and there are other considerations to be made).  Also, having a lifestyle requirement per se would be illegal, but it would be pretty simple to have some fetish art readily visible to weed out those who are not lifestyle friendly.

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:39:09 AM   
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You can do anything that you set your mind to..besides the obvious(last part is for all you smartarses) :)

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:40:55 AM   
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quote:

I don't know Canadian law, but in the US, it would be illegal to put in an age requirement


I suppose He shouldn't be smacking people on the arse either :>.


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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 6:53:41 AM   
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I think the idea would work, as long as it is organized in a manner that is appealing to others.  Like CarrieO stated, it seems like co-housing, which I have seen in Colorado (when I use to live). Still, with what I witnessed, people still had their daily lives, it is just that they wanted to live in/participate in a tight/small community.

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 7:06:55 AM   
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Last week you said you were too old to participate in the lifestyle.  This week you want to be a lifestyle landlord.  A dominant should never seem wishy washy yet in less than one week you have done a 180 degree turn around.  This does not bode well for others being able to see your dominance. 

What you thinking of doing has been thought of before but on a more grand scale.  There are a few things you need to think about before embarking on the project.  First, how many over 45 year old lifestylers live or want to live in the area where you plan on buying that large home?  Second, how many of them are not already settled in homes of their own?  Third, of those not settled in their own homes, how many would want to live in a commune type environment versus having their own private apartments?  Fourth, what happens when someone does brown showers in the bathtub and the other tenants refuse to use the bathtub afterward even though it has been thoroughly cleaned?  Fifth, do you expect to receive some sort of extra respect from those living there, especially from the sub/slave types merely because you are a dominant landlord?  If the answer is yes, then you can expect that few if no dominants will wish to move in and be subservant to you.  Sixth, how will you handle liability issues if someone gets hurt in this home?  You would have had to tell your insurance company about the very special aspect of your home or find yourself with little or no insurance if someone is hurt during play.  So your premiums will very likely be extremely high. 

Good luck in your endeavor.   Many have had similar schemes over the years.  As far as I know, none have come up with a workable model. 


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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 8:23:33 AM   
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the replys i got back were applicable to that situation . a few well thought out ones mentioned some on knocking on the door like grand kids or other. does that not occure now or could not neighbors hear . the liability aspects are covered by the same insurance as a bed and breakfast would have to have . and although no one asked there would not be a dominant ladnlord or supper dom or waht ever it would be a house were idealy the sub side would be to its continuance not to a person. my eariler comment simpley stated we all need aplace to live houseing and we all need to eat . i do notrecall mentioning setting self up as supper dom . the example i gave was such as ageing crossdressers not as master slave so much

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 8:39:33 AM   
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from: wisdomtogive ; At times throughout my life, I have also thought of starting a commune for like minded people, but didn't. Main reasons is that unfortunately communes many times don't work. A lot of shoulds and politics get brought in, and the managing of the egos. That is just me though, plus sadly i really am not a people person. Maybe a commune of animals would be better for me;)


the problem i see with communes are they are leader run not housing for like minded not unlike a bed and breakfast

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 8:44:06 AM   
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Though commune living has always been an interest of mine,  I find that this may pose some issues.  
Someone brought up about grandchildren....most everyone lives in a vanilla world and keep this part of us private to most..would that mean if you lived there,  you could not have anyone vanilla over that wasnt aware?
How might an issue be resolved where roommates get together and it doesnt work out?  Tension in a household is very difficult to live with.
Is just being in the lifestyle enough to have a "family" type bond to live together?
I have found through experience in the lifestyle that many are very emotional which leads to drama.  I've seen more drama within the lifestyle than with vanilla life.  How could that be addressed?
How would you screen to know they are genuine lifestyle people?

These are just a few thoughts.  Good luck in all your endeavors!

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 8:45:48 AM   
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As someone who's spent a bit of time in the Intentional Community arena, I can tell you that this has a good chance of working. The process will need to include clear definitions of what the household will provide and what it won't (examples: "We will provide a safe, open-minded place for you to practice your kink, but we -won't- provide you with a Master/Dominant/Mistress/submissive/slave/servant to participate with you -- companions are -your- responsibility."; "Guests will be expected to meet certain standards of behavior and discretion within the household".; "We provide living space, common space, and one common meal per day, as well as use of the kitchen... you are responsible for your own food for any meals you take on your own. Your one common meal per day is included in your rent."; "Utilities [gas, electric, water, trash] are $____ per month per person. Extras like phone, high-speed internet, or cable are your own responsibility") or whatever the rules are that you've decided are going to be your foundation).

The other thing you'll need to be aware of is that a household like this, depending on how its set up, may have quite a few 'transitional' participants -- sure, some folks will stay for years and may start to feel like a 'family of choice', but there are going to be some who come to try it out and find out that it isn't their cup of tea, so to speak. Unless you're prepared for this (and for the people who will move in, break things, not pay their rent, steal other tenants' food or belongings and all the other unpleasant things that can come along as part of a communal household), it can come as quite a shock, not only to you, but to others who sign on as well. Also, because one of the focuses of this community is going to be something that is -very- broadly defined (kink), and where people tend to become rather judgmental where other peoples' practices are concerned, regardless of what they do themselves, there are bound to be some instances where people are going to get their panties in a bunch about how someone else practices hir kink, and who won't feel capable of leaving well enough alone and living-and-letting-live. The first decade of a household like this is fraught with such challenges. It's not as easy as it seems (take it from someone who has built alternative communities for nearly 30 years!) -- it is definitely worth the effort, in my opinion, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat (in fact, am preparing to do so, not with a fetish community but with a philosophical/artist's community in just a few months)... but it takes more than a little good planning and a lot of forethought and good preparation, as well as a lot of stick-to-it-when-things-go-in-the-crapper-ness to get you through the initial stages and into the period where things turn more smooth than rocky.

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RE: lifestyle house - 1/4/2010 8:47:55 AM   
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mrdpettigrew, oh yes a bed and breakfast might work. When we considered it ages ago, late hubby and me, we did a lot of brain storming, and decided against it. I like your idea and if it is something you have a passion about then start creating the concept on paper. Dare to do!

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