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RE: Saviour? - 1/4/2010 4:55:26 PM

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Daddy Doms do save people!

They save polar bears!

They save money too! Some save coupons, and although a dying art, some save stamps.

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RE: Saviour? - 1/4/2010 5:12:31 PM

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They save polar bears!

LOL... someone tell Al Gore!

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RE: Saviour? - 1/4/2010 8:27:51 PM

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Saveing someone turns out most of the time to enabling them...they REALLY dont want saved, they are manipulative as it is...tsk tsk

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RE: Saviour? - 1/4/2010 11:14:09 PM

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quote:

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They save polar bears!

LOL... someone tell Al Gore!

Oh were it true!

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RE: Saviour? - 1/12/2010 7:27:22 PM

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All generalizations are invalid, including this one.

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RE: Saviour? - 1/12/2010 9:32:17 PM

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I just wonder,

what is so utterly wrong and wicked with helping another person that almost everybody on this thread think negatively about it?

My ability and willingness to help another person is simply a proof of my strength.

Of course there are some cons trying to abuse me, but they are usually easy to spot, and some people's situations are just behond my means or capabilities and they are also clearly recognisable.

But we should start with the other assumption: we can help another and yes our support may make a difference for the other. Also we should always think that one day we will be on the other side and need help ourself.

If you think this is to onctuous, I will share with you this Nietzsche view, which is also mine: only the weak cannot help and the unfree cannot promise.

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RE: Saviour? - 1/12/2010 11:36:44 PM

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Though my husband and I do rather work from a mommy-daddy aspect with some submissives, I am not interested in saving anyone. In any relationship, part of the support one recieves is support with one's issues, and hopefully it is support to work them out and move past them. But that doesn't imply I'm going to "save" someone. I'll cheerlead and offer advice, but ultimately they have to save themselves.

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RE: Saviour? - 1/13/2010 4:13:21 AM

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If you are in a space in your head where you need saving, you are not in the right space to enter into any relationship, let alone one which can be as tricky and potentially powerful as a D/s relationship.

I would humbly suggest that the person need a counselor and not a dominant.

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RE: Saviour? - 1/13/2010 5:51:13 AM

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I have noticed a tendency in some subs who are having problems in their lives (which could include a variety of mental problems or addictions) to be very attracted to the lifestyle because they are looking for someone strong to direct them. They tend to be very submissive in the beginning and form a very quick attachment to their Dom/me. The Dom/me will seem to make a lot of headway in the beginning, and it feels very good to know that you are making a difference.

However, it is ultimately up to the person to "save" themselves. Some enjoy being a victim and look for ways to increase the drama in their lives. It seems, from my experience, that more fall back into their same old bad habits than grow past them.

I've seen Daddy Doms as well as sadists to whom subs gravitate. Some admit that they like to "fix" people. I used to say of myself that I tended to be a collector of strays; those with problems tended to gravitate towards me. It feels wonderful when you can help someone to mature not only in the lifestyle but also in their everyday life. Sadly, it isn't always possible.

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