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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 4:30:56 PM   
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I've had a lot of submissive personality type of men become interested in me but can't say I"ve ever gone out with anyone. It was obvious from the start they weren't my type and we'd be incompatible.



in my defence i had no idea about any of this and he was zany enough for me to find intreaguing. he was a rebel in lots of ways and totally his own person in others, but looking back he was either switch or s'type. whichever, he was in a turmoil with it all.


sometimes it's just you have a cunt and they have a need


go on, lower the tone why dont you - tsk!!


sometimes i can be brutally frank

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 4:58:07 PM   
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i think one of my relationships was with a male sub. he used to wake me up by licking my feet every morning -
he used to get all 'melty' and puppydog eyes whenever he saw me, kinda nauseatingly love struck.
his emotions were all over the damn place half the time, i think maybe cos he really was having a problem with his orientation towards women.

wow.


Wow is right! I never ever dated a male sub that matched that description even remotely!

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 5:10:26 PM   
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I started out as a submissive and I did really enjoy some of the experiences, but every time I turned around I had another sub wanting me to top them.  I even had a 'dom' collar me (online, spent 1 weekend with him in RL) and then have me find 'us' a slave, and run off, leaving her begging me to be her Mistress.  I stayed with her a year, and have never sub'd to anyone since.  That was 9 years ago.  I guess in my case I'm pleased that people saw me for who I was, on the inside, even when I was trying to fill the role I mistakenly thought I was meant to fill. 

Miss Jenn

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 5:22:35 PM   
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i think one of my relationships was with a male sub. he used to wake me up by licking my feet every morning -
he used to get all 'melty' and puppydog eyes whenever he saw me, kinda nauseatingly love struck.
his emotions were all over the damn place half the time, i think maybe cos he really was having a problem with his orientation towards women.

wow.


Wow is right! I never ever dated a male sub that matched that description even remotely!

- LA


he wasnt a sub, not in the real sense of recognising and accepting it at all, even if he knew it was out there as an option i doubt he would have been able to go there.

but his desire to please me the whole time was a conflicting thing for him and me - plus he used to rest his head on my shoulder in bed, that felt horribly wrong - he was well over 6ft with big shoulders, it was an odd thing for me to deal with. at the time i had no idea why, other than it felt horribly wrong and i hated him doing it.

he might not have been of course, just something a male sub wrote on one of the threads reminded me of him.

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RE: have any strong female sub types here attracted mal... - 12/28/2009 5:33:26 PM   
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so here comes the question, ...... have any strong female sub types here attracted male sub types and if so were you aware of it at the time or only on looking back, like i am right now -.



Eh... story of my life. Sexually, it's something I've adapted to, to the point of enjoying it. At the more emotional/relationship level it's been a serious problem for me. I've known some really high quality guys whose near-blatant desire to submit to my will in a larger sense was an absolute deal breaker. Like, the penis might as well just shrivel up and fall off, so quickly has the manifestation of such a desire turned me off. As I've gotten older, I've grown more comfortable with my inherent dominant streak. And I'm exploring how to deal with it, because I've pretty much concluded that suppression of it is unhealthy.

From my current (and evolving) perspective, submission remains the apex of intimacy. But thinking about long term prospects, I think I'd do best with a nice Switch, or a Dom in a poly set up where I get to have a boy toy. Really... as long as I can get away with effecting the formation of handsome young men in their mid 20s, I'm gonna do it. It's very enjoyable and satisfying, but it's not the most intimate to me, because, well, I'm in charge. That probably doesn't make much sense. But there it is. :)

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 5:50:35 PM   
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Lally, Yes
My first Dom was always submissive till he met me. i do not have it in me to be a Domme, so he switched for me. We both went in this with that knowing. I think the intensity and energy shared before we even started to play was enough for it to begin.

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RE: have any strong female sub types here attracted mal... - 12/28/2009 5:53:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

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ORIGINAL: lally2

so here comes the question, ...... have any strong female sub types here attracted male sub types and if so were you aware of it at the time or only on looking back, like i am right now -.



Eh... story of my life. Sexually, it's something I've adapted to, to the point of enjoying it. At the more emotional/relationship level it's been a serious problem for me. I've known some really high quality guys whose near-blatant desire to submit to my will in a larger sense was an absolute deal breaker. Like, the penis might as well just shrivel up and fall off, so quickly has the manifestation of such a desire turned me off. As I've gotten older, I've grown more comfortable with my inherent dominant streak. And I'm exploring how to deal with it, because I've pretty much concluded that suppression of it is unhealthy.

From my current (and evolving) perspective, submission remains the apex of intimacy. But thinking about long term prospects, I think I'd do best with a nice Switch, or a Dom in a poly set up where I get to have a boy toy. Really... as long as I can get away with effecting the formation of handsome young men in their mid 20s, I'm gonna do it. It's very enjoyable and satisfying, but it's not the most intimate to me, because, well, I'm in charge. That probably doesn't make much sense. But there it is. :)


i have to admit that the hunky 20 something sub men that have peeked at my profile do make me wonder if it wouldnt be worth having another go. but im crap at it, so no point.

i think i do understand about youre intimacy thing - as a sub, relinquishing everything leaves the Dom/me in the evident position of being in control and having to think for both. i may well have that skewed but its the impression i get.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 5:56:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissJennMB

I started out as a submissive and I did really enjoy some of the experiences, but every time I turned around I had another sub wanting me to top them.  I even had a 'dom' collar me (online, spent 1 weekend with him in RL) and then have me find 'us' a slave, and run off, leaving her begging me to be her Mistress.  I stayed with her a year, and have never sub'd to anyone since.  That was 9 years ago.  I guess in my case I'm pleased that people saw me for who I was, on the inside, even when I was trying to fill the role I mistakenly thought I was meant to fill. 

Miss Jenn



and you dont miss being submissive at all?

it would be interesting to know what they saw that you didnt at the time.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 6:10:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

Lally, Yes
My first Dom was always submissive till he met me. i do not have it in me to be a Domme, so he switched for me. We both went in this with that knowing. I think the intensity and energy shared before we even started to play was enough for it to begin.


hi

yes i remember you telling me that now. maybe that was his problem all along. feeling at odds with himself and unable in the end to give you the guidance and focus you needed from him.

i can relate to that a little. whatever it is that drives D's to be and do what they do comes from something within them that subs dont generally have. therefore to try and be D when youre natural orientation is to sub is drawing something out of youreself that isnt normally there. you can contrive for a while but not forever.

anyway youre now happy and thats so great. two weeks and counting?

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/28/2009 10:15:14 PM   
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I'm just attracted to some women...it makes no difference to me if they are domme or submissive...now it does to them of course but that is out of my hands....I just love people....even if it seems otherwise at times.

Butch

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 4:20:48 AM   
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@lally2

No, not at all.  Maybe some day that will change, but I find the more experiences I have topping/dominating the more I enjoy it and the less I can even consider the idea of subbing, let alone imagine enjoying it.  I think the reason I didn't do it to start was more because I had no idea how amazing it would be, because of lack of experience and lack of confidence than because lack of desire on my part.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 4:26:41 AM   
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then youre in the unique position of knowing what its like to be both.

may i ask what it is about submission that you dont miss and you cant imagine going back to compared to what you love about being a top/dominant.

and since clearly youre personality is more geared toward dominance, how did you get on with handing over control to another.

im being a bit nosey, ignore me if its too personal. im genuinely curious.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 4:37:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I'm just attracted to some women...it makes no difference to me if they are domme or submissive...now it does to them of course but that is out of my hands....I just love people....even if it seems otherwise at times.

Butch


may i ask then, have you approached a submissive in the hope that she/he might switch or dom. has it ever happened and how did it work out.

my feeble attempt to direct, i wont say Domme because i really wasnt when alls said and done, was well, feeble.

wouldnt it result in frustrated efforts from both sides.

i have a 'kink' in my kink, where if i think i can squeeze through a gap in the fence i will. i hope one day to grow out of that but i havent so far. but then we're all different and operate from different levels.

just being nosey and curious.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 5:18:06 AM   
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i have a 'kink' in my kink, where if i think .....


Sounds like the beginning of a Dr Suess for Doms and subs.

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 5:28:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lally2


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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

Lally, Yes
My first Dom was always submissive till he met me. i do not have it in me to be a Domme, so he switched for me. We both went in this with that knowing. I think the intensity and energy shared before we even started to play was enough for it to begin.


hi

yes i remember you telling me that now. maybe that was his problem all along. feeling at odds with himself and unable in the end to give you the guidance and focus you needed from him.

i can relate to that a little. whatever it is that drives D's to be and do what they do comes from something within them that subs dont generally have. therefore to try and be D when youre natural orientation is to sub is drawing something out of youreself that isnt normally there. you can contrive for a while but not forever.

anyway youre now happy and thats so great. two weeks and counting?


That's an interesting point that occurs to me at times, Lally. I feel most comfy collared by a strong, decisive Domme but in other relationships and in the work world I was quite assertive. I have wondered about the Dom role I sometimes assume in life. I think, well, I can do that in a relationship and in fact have had to learn to stifle the tendency lest topping from the bottom. I should say I have been rightly and soundly smacked down for it and therefore learned to quell the tendency. *grins*

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 5:48:26 AM   
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Yes lally he did struggle for a bit, but as of today, he hasn't switch back to being a submissive either. life is interesting to say the least. i hope your day is promising and the woods inspiring...i want to visit your woods:)

A little over 2 weeks and needliless to say i am so excited:)

wisdom

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RE: OMG!!!!! - 12/29/2009 9:40:26 AM   
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Yes lally he did struggle for a bit, but as of today, he hasn't switch back to being a submissive either. life is interesting to say the least. i hope your day is promising and the woods inspiring...i want to visit your woods:)

id love to show you my wood too, specially during the blue bell season

A little over 2 weeks and needliless to say i am so excited:)

i am too - its wierd, im so excited for you... big smoochy hugs. xxxx



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RE: have any strong female sub types here attracted mal... - 12/29/2009 9:43:26 AM   
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I have had a couple of sub types in my life long before I knew what I did was kinky. Puppy dog eyes, willingness to do anything for me at the drop of a pin, ect.. I found it very endearing.. in a friendly sort of way. I never could get into the idea of parting my legs or lips to them so they always stayed in the friend catagory no matter how hard they tried for more. I could not bring it in me to hurt them though it never occured to me I might be hurting them to allow them to believe they had a chance with me.

Since finding out this stuff I have always done is kinky, more male subs have wandered my way. But I tend to believe it is not so much attraction as the desire to get their needs met by anyone who will.


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ORIGINAL: lally2
i think one of my relationships was with a male sub. he used to wake me up by licking my feet every morning -
he used to get all 'melty' and puppydog eyes whenever he saw me, kinda nauseatingly love struck.


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RE: have any strong female sub types here attracted mal... - 12/29/2009 9:46:54 AM   
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Whether strong or not, subs and dommes will always have those that are spamming everyone who is female.

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RE: have any strong female sub types here attracted mal... - 12/29/2009 10:41:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I have had a couple of sub types in my life long before I knew what I did was kinky. Puppy dog eyes, willingness to do anything for me at the drop of a pin, ect.. I found it very endearing.. in a friendly sort of way. I never could get into the idea of parting my legs or lips to them so they always stayed in the friend catagory no matter how hard they tried for more. I could not bring it in me to hurt them though it never occured to me I might be hurting them to allow them to believe they had a chance with me.
Since finding out this stuff I have always done is kinky, more male subs have wandered my way. But I tend to believe it is not so much attraction as the desire to get their needs met by anyone who will.


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2
i think one of my relationships was with a male sub. he used to wake me up by licking my feet every morning -
he used to get all 'melty' and puppydog eyes whenever he saw me, kinda nauseatingly love struck.




i did the same after this guy. i sensed that their nature was one i would end up walking all over - and not in a good way

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So all I have to do in order to serve him, is to work out exactly how improbable he is, feed that figure into the finite improbability generator, give him a fresh cup of really hot tea ... and turn him on!

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