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PhantomOpera -> Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:30:38 PM)
Is punishment important for the submissive, should it be mental [8\|] or physical [:(]?

thishereboi -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:41:52 PM)
No, it's not. In fact it's not even necessary in most cases.

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:42:40 PM)
Answer of the day: The Search feature is your friend. Punishment: Why bother? http://www.collarchat.com/m_316107/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#316107 The role of punishment http://www.collarchat.com/m_316107/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#316107 What to punish for and how brutal? http://www.collarchat.com/m_1305247/mpage_1/tm.htm Punishment and discipline http://www.collarchat.com/m_18608/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#18608 There are far more threads on this topic than I care to pull. These should get you started. From there you can do your own work.

PhantomOpera -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:46:21 PM)
Response of the day: Thank you for your response but this was a general question for opinions, not a research in past posts, but thanks for the links.

subtee -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:48:56 PM)
Oh yay oh yay! Whereas the party of the first part, herein the “punishee,” does verily earn and has previously abrogated rights to the party of the second part, herein “mean bastard,” a punitive and edifying “action” or series of actions deemed by mean bastard to be the stiffest penal offense of serious impacts and lingual francas he may imprimpataur on the punishee’s person no matter their ex parte nature and hurtyness.

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:52:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhantomOpera Is punishment important for the submissive, should it be mental [8\|] or physical [:(]? It should be whatever works most effectively for the submissive in question, regardless of if you are talking about for play or for behavior modification.

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:54:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhantomOpera Response of the day: Thank you for your response but this was a general question for opinions, not a research in past posts, but thanks for the links. Researching past posts gets you more opinions from those who are no longer posting for a variety of reasons or from those who don't feel like posting on this yet again. The threads that reappear many, many, many times get boring to rehash over and over and over again. The search feature is, indeed, your friend if you truly want a variety of opinions.

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 3:59:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhantomOpera Response of the day: Thank you for your response but this was a general question for opinions, not a research in past posts, but thanks for the links. You'll find that any vague, general question will be met with a similar response from one or more posters. Some of the most articulate and experienced regulars from whom you could learn the most won't even bother to reply because this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. If your goal is to foster discussion, try researching what's been discussed in the past and then come up with a fresh angle. The least you can do is try to be original.

persephonee -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:00:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Oh yay oh yay! Whereas the party of the first part, herein the “punishee,” does verily earn and has previously abrogated rights to the party of the second part, herein “mean bastard,” a punitive and edifying “action” or series of actions deemed by mean bastard to be the stiffest penal offense of serious impacts and lingual francas he may imprimpataur on the punishee’s person no matter their ex parte nature and hurtyness. sssssstop it, subtee...youre getting me all swoony...and im not allowed to do that anymore...online....[8D]

subtee -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:02:31 PM)
Why not?! You might earn...a punishment

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:03:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan Some of the most articulate and experienced regulars from whom you could learn the most won't even bother to reply because this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. I doubt I fall under that heading but I know that, while I make an effort to reply, I don't give the more detailed answers I used to and there are some topics I just don't mess with anymore. Some research on previous discussions really does go a long way.

persephonee -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:05:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Why not?! You might earn...a punishment sniffle....alas, Master is onto me...if i get punished, its not the hurty kind....[:(]

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:12:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan Some of the most articulate and experienced regulars from whom you could learn the most won't even bother to reply because this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. I doubt I fall under that heading I disagree. I've read some of your posts and I think you definitely hold your own. [;)] Like you, I generally keep my replies short because I know a little research will find most of the same information.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:13:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PhantomOpera Is punishment important for the submissive, should it be mental [8\|] or physical [:(]? No AVOIDING punishment should be important for any submissive under my service; but appreciating there are other dynamics and not knowing any more than the one sentence provided, I'll give it a shot. What it is, how much, when, by whom, and other conditions for "punishment" should be determined by the Dominant partner - whichever one that is - directed to the desired goal. Punishment avoidance, correcting relationship issues, having a very different goal than a dynamic that uses "punishment" as a scene setter for play. There are an infinite variety of 'no-win' scenarios to set up "punishment" scenes. I also know of many couple who use a 'weekly tally' of demerits to set up weekend sessions. Whatever works for your mutual satisfaction should be the guide. Mental, physical, a touch of both; the possibilities are endless. The other end of the spectrum is a scenario where the people involved view the need for punishment as a failure in the relationship. That's were the avoidance perspective comes into play. Focusing on that end of the spectrum, my opinion is that the mental and emotional aspects should take priority. Not as a form of punishment, but as a goal to get the submissive's 'mind right' to avoid a repeat. Sometimes it's the Dominant's mind needing to 'get right' when the case is of unrealistic expectation or setting up the submissive to fail - and not in a 'good' way. Get the mental and emotional 'correction' right and the physical punishment can employ a feather instead of a cane and produce as many tears. Hopefully those tears are cathartic and also mark the end of the problem. Have FUN! Good Luck!

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:17:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan I disagree. I've read some of your posts and I think you definitely hold your own. [;)] Like you, I generally keep my replies short because I know a little research will find most of the same information. Yeah well... I gotta try to be modest or Val beats into me. I like being able to sit... [:D]

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:21:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub Yeah well... I gotta try to be modest or Val beats into me. I like being able to sit... [:D] Well, you could always try a little immodesty the next time you feel like some FUNishment. [:)]

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:22:26 PM)
Ahhh, but whose fun? Mine or his? [;)]

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:24:54 PM)
YES! [:D]

AquaticSub -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:26:01 PM)
.... That is how he would answer. I sense a conspiracy here. [:-]

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Question of the Day (12/17/2009 4:28:58 PM)
Sadists of the world, unite! [sm=angel.gif]

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