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Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 6:37:49 PM   
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Has anyone done a "no win" Interrogation scene?

Say, the victim is given a word to withhold.

He is then subjected to one particular torture. Say hard paddling.

If he gives up the word, he is subjected to a harder punishment. Say a hard testicle spanking for 1 minute.

After the minute, back to the paddling. :)

Its pretty simple and devilish at the same time.
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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 6:51:17 PM   
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Has anyone done a "no win" Interrogation scene?


I love playing interrogation games. And yes, in the heat of them, they most definitely can be effective when they are way no-win, otherwise it would be too easy to give in.

The concept of a no-win interrogation is very close to the idea of predicament bondage which is a conflict of desires, but in this case it could/would be mental bondage/torture.

In addition, the pain can come from be being interrogated in an uncomforable position. This breaks down the resistance. Then they know that if they give in, they will receive punishment, but then at least they would be out of the painful position. Usually, I like to play on their pride -- I tend to play these games with boys with big egos!

Another way to play is if there is something the boy really likes, a reward, that is put on the table and if he endures everything until I'm done, he gets the reward. He is tortured between his desire for the reward and the pain of the interrogation. It's a little less no-win because there is a reward for being a brave prisoner.

The thing that I've learned in this type of play is that in the end, it needs to end with a reward regardless of the initial premise, be it simply good aftercare. Interrogation scenes can sometimes get really rough, face slapping, spitting, harsh humiliation, physical torture. Afterwards, my boy needs to know that I found him brave and that I adore him. But that's how I roll!

- LA

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 9:04:37 PM   
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Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 9:24:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: omb

Has anyone done a "no win" Interrogation scene?

Say, the victim is given a word to withhold.

He is then subjected to one particular torture. Say hard paddling.

If he gives up the word, he is subjected to a harder punishment. Say a hard testicle spanking for 1 minute.

After the minute, back to the paddling. :)

Its pretty simple and devilish at the same time.


*insert female version of slave into the scenario*
I think I just came.
Works for me. Hits all kinds of mental spots.


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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 9:26:39 PM   
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The thing that I've learned in this type of play is that in the end, it needs to end with a reward regardless of the initial premise, be it simply good aftercare. Interrogation scenes can sometimes get really rough, face slapping, spitting, harsh humiliation, physical torture. Afterwards, my boy needs to know that I found him brave and that I adore him. But that's how I roll!

- LA


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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/9/2009 9:54:18 PM   
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I've never done an interrogation scene like you people are describing.However, I've been in a few torturous situations where I'd do almost anything to have my interrogator be quiet.lol.

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/11/2009 3:38:24 PM   
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Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

 
if you have time could you explain a bit more..what YOU do??
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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/11/2009 10:19:31 PM   
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Sounds fun!! I think I'll try that on a guy.

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/12/2009 1:34:31 AM   
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This obviously is only a scene, and would have to be treated as such.  I must say I have an aversion to interrogation scenes for one simple reason:  I would not want to, even by means of a pretend scene, encourage my submissive to be closed to me.  I value openness in a submissive, and oftentimes, that openness is hard won.

The idea of such a scene is certainly very attractive though, putting a girl in such a conflicted state.  If I could be certain there would be no spillover, I would be all about trying such a scene, as I could see it becoming very intense.

Does anyone have experience with interrogation scenes influencing openness one way or another?  Or any ideas on how to prevent any spillover from such a scene?

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/12/2009 5:49:16 AM   
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This obviously is only a scene, and would have to be treated as such.  I must say I have an aversion to interrogation scenes for one simple reason:  I would not want to, even by means of a pretend scene, encourage my submissive to be closed to me.  I value openness in a submissive, and oftentimes, that openness is hard won.

The idea of such a scene is certainly very attractive though, putting a girl in such a conflicted state.  If I could be certain there would be no spillover, I would be all about trying such a scene, as I could see it becoming very intense.

Does anyone have experience with interrogation scenes influencing openness one way or another?  Or any ideas on how to prevent any spillover from such a scene?


I talked about techniques in my earlier post but I didn't talk about what it was that I was trying to get out of the interrogation. Of course, variety is always lovely as the game can get old! Here is an example related to what you are inquiring about.

One of the particular things this can work well with is openess. I remember once being out with a boy's friends and him. Somebody made an allusion to a past event that involved him which was quickly hushed. I just observed. As we drove home, I asked my (at the time) boy why all the secrecy surrounding that story. He sort of brushed it off saying he needed to focus on the road (in his defense, there was heavy rain). He was very tired that night so I waited until the next day. We started to play, I tied him up in predicament style bondage and then started to interrogate him on that event. Let's say that the torture of the predicament made it very difficult for him to resist too long. I finally got to the bottom of the story. I found out about some of his wild university days, paddled him for being such a little deviant in his youth (hey! I seize any opportunity to redden bums!) and then we had lunch. All in a day's play ;-)

Side note - It is my impression that a submissive has to be in a relatively playful mood for this to be a success, when they are tired, they are more likely to resent this game as it can be mentally draining. Again, this all depends on the results you want to get. I tend to look for positive results.

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 6:57:12 AM   
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Sounds fun!! I think I'll try that on a guy.
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Ill be right over!! :)

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 11:32:29 AM   
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Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

 
if you have time could you explain a bit more..what YOU do??
GM

I'd be more than happy to.  I'll send you a cmail on the other side.


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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 11:54:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO

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Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

 
if you have time could you explain a bit more..what YOU do??
GM

I'd be more than happy to.  I'll send you a cmail on the other side.


I'm curious why you wouldn't share with all here so that we might learn.

- LA

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 2:05:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

 
if you have time could you explain a bit more..what YOU do??
GM

I'd be more than happy to.  I'll send you a cmail on the other side.


I'm curious why you wouldn't share with all here so that we might learn.

- LA

To be honest, it avoids Me from having to deal with wanker mail.


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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 4:15:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Absolutely.  I've given demos on the subject.

 
if you have time could you explain a bit more..what YOU do??
GM

I'd be more than happy to.  I'll send you a cmail on the other side.


I'm curious why you wouldn't share with all here so that we might learn.

- LA

To be honest, it avoids Me from having to deal with wanker mail.



Really? Oh that's unfortunate. I share a lot of techniques and tips here and get very little wanker mail. Maybe you are just too good ;-)

Well wanting to learn, would you mind forwarding me some of your tips and tricks as well? I'm always eager to learn new ways to shake things up.

- LA

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/13/2009 4:30:09 PM   
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I have done something that I think is similar, involving orgasm control. This was during play of course, and it involved telling her that she was not allowed to orgasm without my permission or she would be punished, and then subjecting her to intense play that would almost certainly cause her to orgasm. This would cause her to beg for me to allow her to orgasm, which would just make me intensify what I was doing and continue to deny her. If (when) she orgasmed then she'd be punished... which usually caused her to orgasm more.... which caused more punishment... and that would usually go on for a bit. It was always a "no win" situation because I'd keep pushing her until she orgasmed and then I'd "have to" punish her for it, but it was something she enjoyed too because she would get a little better at it every time which helped with her normal training.

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/14/2009 12:39:22 AM   
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Has anyone done a "no win" Interrogation scene?

Say, the victim is given a word to withhold.

He is then subjected to one particular torture. Say hard paddling.

If he gives up the word, he is subjected to a harder punishment. Say a hard testicle spanking for 1 minute.

After the minute, back to the paddling. :)

Its pretty simple and devilish at the same time.


Each to their own, No win senerios are like playing poker and seeing everyone's hand. I perfer something that is a challenge

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/14/2009 2:08:42 AM   
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There are two forms of interrogation and the kind you describe is a long way away from the sort of interrogation we do. We have both done interrogation scenes where the information we are interrogating the person for is the actual safe word. This way we know that we can keep on pushing, increasing the pressure and upping the head fuck.
Steve and me usually do this together with one subject. One of us is the nice guy who pretends to really care about the victim and even offers the subject possibilities of avoiding torture and the other one is the cruel sadistic bastard that just wants to get his hands on the victim. This really confuses the subject that is being interrogated. The great thing about this is the nice guy can monitor the victim closely.
One of the greatest skills of interrogation is the ability for the interrogator to adapt the environment they are in and the tools around them ( a tool could be anything from a pen to a light bulb!)
We do workshops and interrogation performances in the UK and we always tell the people who attend to bring one item (any item) along with them.

Here is a quote from a journal entry I wrote some time back. Keep in mind that S is not my sub.... we are switch. When I interrogate I do like resistance.

Saturday night and he knew he was in for a challenge. Sensually I tied the ropes to his wrists, gently I stroked and caressed his body and carefully I threaded the rope though the rafters before yanking it ruthlessly upwards. Now he was trapped, my victim, my play toy.

With a further noose around his neck he looked at me slightly nervously. I could still see the challenge in his eyes though, that egging me on, daring me to do my worst!! Pulling a knife from my boot I edged it firmly against his throat, 'Now we can do this the hard way S or we can do this the easy way, its up to you? all you need to give me is your pin number?'

He looked at me with a silly big grin on his face, a grin that told me he was taking none of this seriously. A sharp slap wiped away that grin and replaced it with a kind of gormless puzzled luck. Now it was my turn to smile! 'Pin number?' I asked 'fuck you' he answered.

I cut away his top to reveal his chest and stood back to admire that beautiful gladiator body of his. His skin firm and tanned from his recent travels, his nipples neat and hard at the sudden cold rush of air. I couldn't resist leaning forward to gently taste his flesh, my flesh... my man.

'I don't want to have to do this S' I continued, 'I don't want to have to break you but you know I will if you don't give me that pin number. It's so easy, just four little numbers?'. I could tell from that determined look on his face that I was going to have to do this the hard way, my way and my way was that he was going to fear for his life because I had control of that right now, right now he was helpless. I took the leather flogger and brought it down hard across his back again and again and I watched as he writhed and cursed me and tried desperately to dodge the blows but I was merciless, I was intent on getting that number!

'You bitch, you ffffing bitch' he shouted. I watched as he struggled against his restraints and I walked across the room to get myself a sack. I could hear my own heels clicking loudly on the wooden floor and right at this moment I felt 'all powerful'. As I pulled the sack firmly down over his head I observed his chest heaving. 'We can do this the easy way S or we can do this the hard way. Pin number?'

'Im going to fffing kill' His words were replaced by a gasp as I threw icy water against his covered face. I knew that for a few moments he would feel that awful fear of suffocation, I could smell his fear but I could still feel his anger.

Once again I selected a flogger. This time a hard rubber tubed one. I fingered my way down its shaft and rolled it gently in my right hand before bringing down hard across his behind. He yelped delightfully as I thrashed him, his body moving around like a carousel trying to face me, desperately trying to free himself from the trap. 'pin number S? PIN NUMBER?. I leaned forward and ripped the hood from his face. I wanted, needed to see his eyes, see the fear and it was their, I know it was but he still wouldn't relent!

I dropped the flogger and and ran my fingers along his wounds. The long wheels stood out proudly on his skin, the bruises already starting to appear in glorious reds. With a finger under his chin I lifted his face and looked him square in the eye, 'we can do this the hard way or we can do this the easy way S?'. His eyes suddenly became wild, a low growl escaped from his throat and then, can you believe it? he spat in my face and uttered the words 'fuck you'!

Oh silly, silly boy!. I walked over and took the branding iron from my bag, turned on the blow torch and started to heat up the dull metal. I calmly stood watching as he screamed at me 'I am going to kill you when I get down from here, I'm going to fffing kill you'.

Calmly I walked back over to him, the iron now glowing red on the end of the wooden handle in my hand 'not if I kill you first S, not if I kill you first.

His body was now whirling in all directions, his shouts had become muffled as he bit desperately on the rope that was securing his arms. I grabbed the back of his hair and pulling his head back I leaned into his face so that I could feel his breath. 'I suggest you remain very still S because this may hurt a little'. His eyes were huge like saucers, his entire body was now trembling delightfuly and he did remain still for a moment before his legs buckled from under him and out he went like a light!

I released him from his restraints and cradled him in my arms. I reached out for a dextrose tablet and slipped it under his tongue. Now I wanted to nurse him, cradle him, love him. Now I was stroking his hair and telling him how proud I was and now he was looking at me with glazed loving eyes. Now he knew absolutely not to mess with me!!!

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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/14/2009 8:17:32 AM   
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RE: Looping Interrogation - 12/14/2009 5:52:19 PM   
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