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DemonKia -> Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 3:39:25 PM)

Isn't it implicit that if one posts in a fora such as this, one has agreed to whatever that might mean? Happy-happy-joy-joy responses. Mean responses. Off-topic responses. Etc etc.

& informed consent, in this frame, is, say reading thru sufficient threads to acclimate self to how the fora operate, what's usual, likely, & etc? Or am I just a freak, lol?




EbonyWood -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 3:52:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Isn't it implicit that if one posts in a fora such as this, one has agreed to whatever that might mean? Happy-happy-joy-joy responses. Mean responses. Off-topic responses. Etc etc.


I would say yes, if the response isn't personally derogatory or abusive (in a bad way [;)]).
 
A world of constant agreement will eventually make you go lay on the railway tracks, and meanness, well meanness is usually just seen for what it is and loses the poster any credibility they had.




purepleasure -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 3:58:42 PM)

Kia, yes, you are a freak, but I agree that by posting in any public message board, one opens themself up to ANY type of response. And that an original poster must realize that they have no control as to what direction a particular thread can take.

P.S. I adore freaks




Mercnbeth -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 4:09:03 PM)

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Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts?


What should always be in mind when posting here is that there are sadists participating. Many, me for instance, don't shrink away from the label and tend to be opportunistic when a potential victim exposes their throat. Hell - without those opportunities why log on?





Llyren -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 4:12:00 PM)

That would explain the large number of trolls.  The sadists have been putting out bait!




BitaTruble -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 4:13:32 PM)

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Isn't it implicit that if one posts in a fora such as this, one has agreed to whatever that might mean? Happy-happy-joy-joy responses. Mean responses. Off-topic responses. Etc etc.

& informed consent, in this frame, is, say reading thru sufficient threads to acclimate self to how the fora operate, what's usual, likely, & etc? Or am I just a freak, lol?


No, I don't believe so. I haven't agreed to 'whatever' by posting here because there are rules and guidelines in place for posting. I think people do have an expectation that the TOS will be adhered to and that thread-jacking will be kept to a minimum. I don't think one should expect a free-for-all when posting otherwise there would be no need for threads .. just one long rambling forum with no logical reason to it would suffice. When I enter a thread, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the posts on that thread to adhere to the topic or take some sort of natural offshoot to the topic as often happens. I don't "expect" deliberate derailment although it doesn't surprise me when it happens.




DemonKia -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 5:04:54 PM)

Good point -- I probably should have specified within TOS & the stated guidelines & etc . . . . So stipulated . . . .

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

No, I don't believe so. I haven't agreed to 'whatever' by posting here because there are rules and guidelines in place for posting. I think people do have an expectation that the TOS will be adhered to and that thread-jacking will be kept to a minimum. I don't think one should expect a free-for-all when posting otherwise there would be no need for threads .. just one long rambling forum with no logical reason to it would suffice. When I enter a thread, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the posts on that thread to adhere to the topic or take some sort of natural offshoot to the topic as often happens. I don't "expect" deliberate derailment although it doesn't surprise me when it happens.




Missokyst -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 5:07:29 PM)

Yes you are a freak.

And I do think if you post anywhere, CM, Fet, My Space, ect., you should expect anything.  Really.. if you only want good pats, why not just write on your own walls and reread it, telling yourself how spectacular you are?  It isn't even a matter of expectation because in posting you are dealing with too many variables, bad days, mean people, cluelessness, wannabe knights, damsels.. ect.  If it is not possible to control people within the scope of everyday contacts, it is moreso impossible to control strangers who have no need to molly-coddle.

:) I sometimes get ripped but I don't let things like that get me down.




BitaTruble -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 5:12:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Good point -- I probably should have specified within TOS & the stated guidelines & etc . . . . So stipulated . . . .

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

No, I don't believe so. I haven't agreed to 'whatever' by posting here because there are rules and guidelines in place for posting. I think people do have an expectation that the TOS will be adhered to and that thread-jacking will be kept to a minimum. I don't think one should expect a free-for-all when posting otherwise there would be no need for threads .. just one long rambling forum with no logical reason to it would suffice. When I enter a thread, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the posts on that thread to adhere to the topic or take some sort of natural offshoot to the topic as often happens. I don't "expect" deliberate derailment although it doesn't surprise me when it happens.



Okay, in that case, I think people need to make sure they have on their big boy/girl panties and realize that they are posting their private lives to basically the free world of cyber space and you takes yer chances when you air your laundry.




LadyEllen -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 5:48:17 PM)

I would say you have given your consent to being confronted with whatever other users post, including any nasty bits and even any derailing or flaming etc that the Mods have not gotten round to dealing with, if they see fit to do so. You, and the other posters, have also consented to the TOS and to Mod control of what you post.

In legal terms under English common law, given these factors and with a full understanding that this is an adult site, you would be hard pressed to find any cause for action in anything you might be confronted with, not to mention the uncertainty of identifying should you find one, someone to sue (in theory).

E




Rhodes85 -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/19/2009 5:49:43 PM)

I would say it means you should expect any response within a reasonable expectation based on the context of the post. Obviously you wouldn't expect to post a message and expect a crazy reply or a death threat ot something.




DemonKia -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/20/2009 12:21:56 AM)

FR, after continuing read thru

I, personally, am someone who ends up telling people unpleasant truths, bursting bubbles, & etc. I try to be kind, but if I feel it's necessary to lay out some uncomfortable facts & / or opinions, I do. A lot, actually.

& I tend to think 'twue' friends are those who tell me when I have 'egg on my tie', even when it's difficult, maybe unappreciated, etc . . . . . While it can be painful in the short run, in the long run it tends to work out better.




MadameMarque -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/20/2009 12:42:34 AM)

By that same logic, if I walk into a dangerous neighborhood and someone harasses me or attacks me, it's no more than I should have expected, I basically signed up for it, consented to it, by being there.

There are plenty of situations where, if you assert your right to be there, you can expect that some people will treat you like crap and be a jerk.  That don't make it alright.

When someone acts like a jerk toward you for the sheer satisfaction of it, and you confront them, and their response is "toughen up," well, that's as much as saying, when I insult you to your face, I'd appreciate it if you would just eat the shit I give you, instead of showing any self respect or expecting me to be responsible for my bad behaviour.

What do you feel is the correct response when people snipe at you?




DemonKia -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/20/2009 1:26:44 AM)

Depends on my mood . . . . .

I have this kinda perverse reverse-psych thing I do a lot. If I think the person is looking for an aggrieved / outraged / similar response, & I don't wanna participate in that, I don't . . . . .

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ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

What do you feel is the correct response when people snipe at you?




LaTigresse -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/20/2009 4:31:13 AM)

When people snipe at me, I tend to laugh because it means the sadist in me hit a nerve.

I expect people to follow true to their individual form. In some that is admirable, in others it's funny, others pathetic, etc etc etc... I woould never post something of a sensitive nature expecting to be handled with kid gloves. Some people will attack, others will couch snark in advice, quite a few will give well meaning advice, and yet others will call ya a stupid fucker, in as much as Madame Eleven and company will allow.

What it comes down to to me, is that not much of it really means shit. No matter how well meaning the advice is, it's only as good as the picture painted by the OP. If the picture painted said, "I am a stupid fucker" well, they shouldn't be surprised when the replies they get imply such.

I try to keep my words controlled, even moreso than in real life. In real life, the people I communicate with can see ALL of my communication. The words are only a small portion of how I communicate. It is very easy to be misunderstood via written word when you are used to saying things like........to the boss "Well ya stupid fucker! How is it you didn't just KNOW they wanted it .............." Knowing that he knows by my tone, facial expressions, and the context, that I am really calling the customer the stupid fucker for expecting him to read their mind. Things like that.

I think most of us chose our words differently for different posters also. Those we know have been around and have a better feel for the person we are, we can joke around with more and not be taken wrongly. Then there are types of new posters that I know I have far less patience for than others. A 47 yo D type that spouts off about their 20 years old guard experience then proceeds to make some really stupid fucker posts, I am not going to be gentle. A 19yo D type making those same statements I am going to have considerably more patience with, especially if they are smart enough to quickly see the error of their ways. A 47 yo s type that asks stupid fucker questions that a child would know the common sense answer to.......not much patience here.......a 19yo tentatively sticking their toe in the water for the first time, much more patience.




LadyPact -> RE: Does Posting Here Constitute Consent to Participate, Even When It Hurts? (11/20/2009 7:55:38 AM)

No big surprise here.  I agree with a lot of what LaT has written above.

I agree that we should all behave ourselves within the context described in TOS.  I'm not perfect at it, but I do censor Myself somewhat.  I've certainly had some opinions on My side of the screen that I didn't even bother typing out because they would have violated those guidelines.  What I thought to Myself sitting here is another matter.

Other than that, yes, if you ask a question or make a comment here, you invite the responses that you get.  That includes the ones that you don't agree with, phrased in a way that you don't care for, from people you may not particularly like.  I'm pretty blunt in My writing here and I've got a twisted sense of humor to boot.  Some people don't like that approach.  Still, if you (general you) have asked a question seeking opinions, you'll get one from Me and it will be an honest one at that.  I won't bullshit you and I won't coddle you, but I will give you My opinion as I see it.




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