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Termyn8or -> The scope of our society (11/13/2009 11:59:57 PM)
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To preface I must say this is hypothetical, but possible.
For one, nobody really knows what has happened throughout the history of this planet. I now cite the old movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy". A guy throws a Coke bottle over a hill or something and some primitive tribe finds it. Just about the whole movie is about those primitives trying to figure out what this this is and what it's for.
Now in history some have become explorers, to the ends of the Earth if they could, and have discovered tribes of peoples in isolated areas who have absolutely no idea of the existence of the technicological age or anything alse. Still living the old way. Completely oblivious to the megopolis' around them, even if they are nearby. They basically mind their own business and live their own lives. Explorers go out and find things, people, new lands and who knows what, because they want to . Others just don't want to.
What we have reaped in the scope of human knowledge is vast, but still not yet complete, to disagree would be illogical. So now, since we, without even trying to hide, were not discovered by primitives, how can we logically say that there are not more advanced people on the planet, but with the technology to remain hidden if they wish ?
I am not asserting that such people exist, I am proposing it as a topic for discussion. If for example, you were born into said society, in which your intelligence is ten times what we consider the norm, why would you bother to make contact with us ? Likewise with extraterrestrials, but that is not the subject here.
If you were able to live far far under the deepest sea, completely away from most of the world. Self sufficient, with artificial or gathered sunlight, have lushious gardens and all of your family and friends with you, why would you bother with a world like our's ? Immune to wars and even a nuclear holocaust, would you seek the surface ?
As far as I know, we haven't even been to the very bottom of Lake Superior, let alone the oceans. If they developed small scale fusion technology they could easily live under the Antarctic ice if they chose. We haven't seen every inch of that.
You can say there would be a thermal signature and yes that might be true. But if enough energy is available the heat can be sent further underground where it will never be detected. Just like the stealth bomber shoots all the heat upwards in spite of the fact the the thrust is downward. Something like that.
They could even have spaceships, and run undetected using more advanced technology just like old RADAR jammers. Not really old ones, the first ones just made noise, later versions actually convert and analyze the "blip" and adjust frequency and phase to match, thus making an object invisible to the RADAR scan. The noise reducing headphones worn on some helicopters work in a similar manner, except it's venue is that of the sonic rather than the electromagnetic.
I know this is possible, and if started studying science as a pre teen you might as well. All of physics is related, except nuclear. Physics starts with a lever, but that same principle applies to hydraulics, electronics and so forth. Pneumatics is a bit of a different animal but it is only a bit more complex. But a small hydaulic piston feeding a larger one is the same as a lever, and also the same as an impedance matching, or any transformer. Can anyone say for sure that more technology than we have discovered does not exist ? Can anyone say that we are the preeminant "human race" or even species of the world ?
You can't. You can't disprove the existence of anything, at least to anyone with a scientific mind. If you go really far fetched they might think 'not likely', but they will never accept disproof. Disproof is simply not in some people's mental vocabulary. Some of them are the smartest people on this planet----- that we know of.
We tend to go to the top of the heap only to have the heap fall down. We go to the top of the hill only to get knocked down. We go to the top of the food chain only to be eaten by a wild animal. We keep getting knocked down time and time again yet seem to maintain that we are all of the above, and then some. To claim this we would have to be omnipresent and pretty much omnipotent. Therefore to claim this we would be decalring ourselves Gods.
Think of it, to live in a secret society in which space travel is common, but shielding it from the regualar biomass is no sweat. First of all if you want to take the spaceship out somewhere, do it at night, first of all you aren't usually going to the sun, so you are already pointed in the right direction. And then it is night, so forget those lights and shit like in the movies. After that all you have to do is shield yourself from a vastly inferior technology.
And it would be vastly inferior as well, because to have a spaceship have any use at all you either need a long lifespan, greater than light speeds (which I think are possible) or something it takes to get to the nearest star system. It is a bit far.
I am talking about a whole different culture, one that has improved itself drastically, say over the millenia. Perhaps all the religious folklore and that is just them giving it a try, trying to help us. Perhaps they have given up ? Perhaps they have just decided to recuse themselves from this game of life we have been playing for millenia. Perhaps they wanted no part of it. With all the resorces we waste on war, they turn their minds to science and perhaps even eugenics. They don't waste their time.
If such a society exists it would go far to explain the supposed miracles and whatever else purported to have happened in the past. I try to figure things out. I don't let anyone really put thoughts into my mind, and it is a damnsight harder to get them out. For example, 'Jesus walked on the water', OK, was he the first to swim and taught others ? I doubt that, it was a bit flippant, but one Bible translator I heard of said "According to this text, Jesus could've been a mushroom with psycodelic effects". He was promptly dismissed. Was what he said true ? He was a linguist, and called em as he sawem. He was dismissed and my only conclusion is that we are being manipulated when it comes to this subject.
When I was about seven I read a book called "Creation Or Evolution". It took me all of five seconds to figure that one out. We define days within the universal parameters, the Earth rotates and all that, so away from the sun is night and towards the sun is day. Simple concept really. But God created the Earth in a day ? Well he defined days back then, not us. He could've sat on his ass for millenia and called it a day when he was good and damn ready. These issues are all resolved in my mind. A "higher power" may have made it happen, but like Henry Ford created cars.
The only creations attributable to humanity are in the realm of art. Even so, they so not appear out of thin air. Music is created largely out of language, visual art is created out of a canvass and paint or ink, or a rock and a hammer and chisel, or even a twig and a whittler's knife.
So to believe in creation is to believe that we were a concept of some vast mind, of some higher power's imagination. That I can actually understand. But the world went for so long with the assumption that it only happened once, even on this planet. How can anyone assert that ?
The omnipresent and omnipotent are welcome to try.
T
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