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Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 6:32:36 AM   
KyttenMaster


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My Sir and I have been looking for a second slave to make him happy and to serve him as well as myself. We have not had much luck here as have only come across two individual that are "real". One is just a little too young for us and the other claims she is looking for a threesome but has been secretly contacting my Sir behind my back leaving me out of the picture. My question is when looking for a third person to join you shouldn't all communication be open and honest? I have expressed this to the both of them and it stopped for awhile but I see they are once again secretly contacting each other and keeping conversations just between the two of them. This has made me feel insecure and slightly cheated as we agreed that there would be NOTHING secret between us. I have contacted her about it and she refuses to respond to my request. Apparently its not a threesome after all.
Any ideas?

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 6:47:15 AM   
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Yes, I believe all of you should be open and honest about communications.  At the same time, you also need to understand that if you are building this as a relationship, rather than just casual play, the two of them also have to make a connection.

In any three person type poly (if that's what you're going for here) arrangement, there really are four distinct interactions.

Person A and person B.

Person A and person C.

Person B and person C.

Person A, person B, and person C.

Not being accepting of the fact that the two of them will require to build that relationship is only going to bring issues.  Just the same as if you don't make an effort to cultivate a relationship with this new person that doesn't include him.  In My experience, failure to do so only breeds jealousy and other problems that will come up down the road.


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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 6:59:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

In any three person type poly (if that's what you're going for here) arrangement, there really are four distinct interactions.

Person A and person B.
Person A and person C.
Person B and person C.
Person A, person B, and person C.

Not being accepting of the fact that the two of them will require to build that relationship is only going to bring issues.  Just the same as if you don't make an effort to cultivate a relationship with this new person that doesn't include him.  In My experience, failure to do so only breeds jealousy and other problems that will come up down the road.



Good points, LP. A "V" is also possible, where he is involved with the 2 women separately, but that doesn't look like what KyttenMaster wants. As you said, communication (always!) is key.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 7:53:27 AM   
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I second Lady Pact’s excellent post. There is a difference between hiding something from the third then two people just having communication and yes connection with each other. If you want to be involved in a threesome relationship you have to be comfortable knowing the other two will be involved as well.

Now if you are not connecting with the woman or she seems uninterested in connecting with you then that is obviously a problem. But that is still quite a bit different then if you are expecting the entire relationship dynamic to always have you involved. There will be insecurity issues to fight through and that cannot just be dumped onto the others.

Most couples fail at poly because they do not extend their relationship equally onto the third and this includes love, trust and commitment and devotion to everyone’s needs and desires.



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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 8:04:48 AM   
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I foresee a train wreck in the op's future. This massive amount of insecurity does not bode well.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 8:46:19 AM   
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I don't really have much to add that hasn't been added before. In all honesty I got stuck on "true". Your profile only stresses communication (which is good) and the things you don't want. If you are looking for true shouldn't you stress what's important to you in that context?

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/7/2009 8:47:52 PM   
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Actually this is just for casual play not for a poly house hold. No strings attached. What bothers me is that she does not respond to me just only him. And they have already established a relationship months ago. I feel it is equally important for me to bond with her as well and know this person before getting intimate with her as well, and she just doesn't seem interested in me even though I already expressed the importance of us ALL being open and communicating. It was suppose to be our first threesome but now I feel there is a problem with trust as it has been going on behind my back since the summer. He wants her to also be my play toy as well but it seems as though she is only his in secret. Hmmm now it has tainted me against trusting another person in our threesome idea.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/8/2009 7:28:08 AM   
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quote:

This has made me feel insecure and slightly cheated


Take out the "slightly" - and it is not at all uncommon for someone to suggest a "threesome" when in fact he wants another. Some are really in it for the chase, rather than the ownership - I am not suggesting this is the case with yours, but it is possible.

The writing is on the wall, this isn't a "maybe", and as it is a big world out there, with lots of "masters". Probably a good time to have your own CM account, too.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/8/2009 7:51:36 AM   
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Hiding communication is not good.

I am always on the search for other girls for either casual play or possible adding another slave to our household.  Any and all communication I have with any girls are shown to my current slave so she is never left out of the loop.  The OP's sir should at least be doing the same.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/8/2009 10:19:08 AM   
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If this is just for play, with NSA in mind, don't you think you're overthinking things a bit? Consider the possibilities. All of them. I'm a little pressed for time, so this is kind of a "Cliff Notes" version of what I'm thinking and bounces around a little. I really don't have much to go on except this thread and what scant information you have in your profile, but I would suggets the following. Talk to your Sir about this current situation. Work out your feelings with him, and clearly define what it is that you are both looking for. If you see no harm in his current fling on a sexual level as long as things are out in the open, then by all means let them continue it in the open, but if she is not providing any clear indication that she is what you are both seeking, then suggest to him that you continue the search using any and all means while he is spending time with her. That way, at the very least, you will have the opportunity to persue your own carnal interests while he is otherwise occupied even if you never manage to find that one special gal. If this girl isn't the one, then whats the problem? No strings attached should mean precisely that. This one doesn't seem to be working out as planned. Okay, I get that. However, you're in a poly relationship. It's important that you share your feelings on the matter with him though, because without taking that step first, you won't be able to move forward.

Perhaps you should just look at it from the other angle if your Sir is willing to consider the possibility. I would suggest you find someone to be your plaything who is open to the idea of a future threesome with him. Meanwhile, he can enjoy whatever benefits he gets from this other girl.

For that matter, if you are seriously wanting something with no strings, you might save yourself a lot of aggrivation in the long run by attending swingers events. Single women are generally welcome there, and many of them are looking for something with a couple. Hell, if this is your fantasy, you could show up alone at a swingers club and have a threesome with any number of likely couples. Yeah, it would be a little backward from what you're probably used to, but if you just want a hook-up, you seem to be investing a lot of time in something thats not very productive. I realize that you are in a poly relationship, and that there are certain ways that you look at things because of that, but maybe looking outside the proverbial box is in order here. Maybe you should just try the no-strings sex part before you start getting all wrapped up in which one of you is the new girls favorite. After you find the girl that is into you both on a sexual/kink level, then invite her into the poly aspect of your life.

Also consider this. As a woman, you have a multitude of options. Your chances of meeting someone for a strictly NSA encounter are better than you Sirs. One night in a lesbian bar will give you a higher percentage of meeting some cute little bi girl for some NSA than spending countless hours of aggrivation in this situation has given you. It seems to me that you have put all your eggs in this one little basket. As I see this, you are in one relationship, but he is in two. If the goal is to create a true poly relationship, you are going to have to play out all of the options until you find that perfect third. I looked at your profile, and it's pretty mild as far as BDSM play interests go. I think that you will find better success finding yourself a playmate that fits the bill if you find someone who is more into you than him. Since you're talking about a plaything, you should consider looking for someone who is more likely to be interested in playing with you than him.

Think it through. What you are essentually looking for is a woman that wants to have a relationship with you both, shares you both sexually and emotionally, is a willing to take an un-equal share in a three-way relationship relationship, remains "her own woman", and is willing to be dropped like a hot rock at a moments notice. These things go against the grain of most womens thinking, and certainly it will take more than one bad experience, or a single method to find a woman who finds this to be an ideal scenario. Such a woman is difficult to find...

The possibilities in life are only limited by what you are willing to do to acheive your goals. If you wind up in a situation that never includes a threesome, but end up with two subs running around the house serving you seperately, that may very well lead to activities that make a threesome seem unexciting and mundane.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/8/2009 3:48:48 PM   
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If it's casual then you don't need any more of a relationship than exchanging std scans and setting up a date. If you want a relationship, then it's poly. But if she is uninterested in being your play toy, then she is uninterested. You folks need to make up your minds.

Looks like they already have, because they have  established a relationship.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/8/2009 6:29:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KyttenMaster

Actually this is just for casual play not for a poly house hold. No strings attached. What bothers me is that she does not respond to me just only him. And they have already established a relationship months ago. I feel it is equally important for me to bond with her as well and know this person before getting intimate with her as well, and she just doesn't seem interested in me even though I already expressed the importance of us ALL being open and communicating. It was suppose to be our first threesome but now I feel there is a problem with trust as it has been going on behind my back since the summer. He wants her to also be my play toy as well but it seems as though she is only his in secret. Hmmm now it has tainted me against trusting another person in our threesome idea.


Honestly, I'd worry less about her and more about him. Why is he still involved with her if he wants her to be yours as well? When a potential third confessed to Valyraen that she was only interested in him and not me, he firmly told her that he isn't interested in a V for himself and if she wanted him, I was part of the deal. Up to that point, she had been saying that she found me attractive as well.

From a casual play partner point of view, I wouldn't feel obligated to get to know you if I was only interested in him unless it's made clear that it's a package deal. Then I'll either decide I'm interested in you both or leave. Since he's still communicating with her in secret, he may well be encouraging the idea that she isn't required to play with both of you.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:31:15 PM   
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< Message edited by Michaella -- 11/10/2009 2:51:36 PM >

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:35:45 PM   
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Holy moley.  Do you really want everyone to know your dirty laundry?

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:37:24 PM   
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First post too...

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:40:14 PM   
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well, the one profiles not found, so the plot already thick, becomes absolutely congealing.




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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:41:30 PM   
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Which one? Michaella had a profile and picture just a minute ago.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:42:21 PM   
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YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow.  That was unexpected.  Do you feel better now?  Perhaps you should pick up your ball and glove and run along home. 

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:42:26 PM   
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LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL, she ain't got it now.

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RE: Open and honest relationship with threesome - 11/10/2009 2:44:46 PM   
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To quote some famous hick who's name escapes me.....That's some good shit right there.

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