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Level -> Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 3:25:43 AM)

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Police said they discovered the remains of four more people at the house of Anthony Sowell, a convicted rapist, in Cleveland Ohio, after the bodies of six women were unearthed there last week.

Detectives said the latest four bodies were found in the back yard which is still being excavated. A skull was also found wrapped in a paper bag in a bucket in the basement.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6497493/Police-find-four-more-bodies-at-home-of-suspected-serial-killer.html

CBS mentioned that neighbors complained for years about the smell, but not much was really done.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 3:58:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

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Police said they discovered the remains of four more people at the house of Anthony Sowell, a convicted rapist, in Cleveland Ohio, after the bodies of six women were unearthed there last week.

Detectives said the latest four bodies were found in the back yard which is still being excavated. A skull was also found wrapped in a paper bag in a bucket in the basement.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6497493/Police-find-four-more-bodies-at-home-of-suspected-serial-killer.html

CBS mentioned that neighbors complained for years about the smell, but not much was really done.


Bizarre shit. 

I read this the other day and wondered....what the fuck allows someone to do this, moreover, for years (I presume), get up, go to bed, get up again and go on every day as normal....with all those bodies in the back?

Freaky shit.




sirsholly -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 4:01:16 AM)

The six bodies they found are thought to have been there for 6 months...yet the neighbors have been complaining about the smell for years. God only knows how many he has killed.




cpK69 -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 4:39:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

I read this the other day and wondered....what the fuck allows someone to do this, moreover, for years (I presume), get up, go to bed, get up again and go on every day as normal....with all those bodies in the back?


People only have to believe their actions were for a good cause, or 'just' in order to live with their them.

Kim




LadyEllen -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 4:53:11 AM)

The scariest thing is that for every one of these people thats been caught, there must be many more who havent been; take a look at how many people disappear every year - in western cultures where its almost impossible to do so willingly - without a trace. And in those same western cultures where very often we dont even know our neighbours' names, let alone what theyre like or what they get up to, the next serial killer that emerges could well be in your street.

But how it can be that complaints like these, (rotting flesh is very distinctive on the nose), over years went unanswered, when we quite often it seems have other, often minor, occasionally ridiculous, complaints investigated vigorously and pursued efficiently through the justice system is concerning; I recall the prosecution of a man who collected piggy banks and displayed them in his window and the complaints from local Muslims, and just lately the case of the naked man that has been discussed here. Meanwhile Fred West - a notorious serial killer in Britain - must have attracted numerous noise complaints from his "building work" (he buried his victims in the walls and floors of his home), which obviously were never followed up.

In the end though, a serial killer can only pursue his trade if he is a good actor and a reliable liar with little or no consience; this is more than likely why such cases, as awful as they are, are so rarely discovered.

E




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 7:35:10 AM)

I'm afraid it even gets a little scarier, Lady E. He may have found some of his victims on Alt.com. Here's an article about his Alt profile, which is no longer up.




cpK69 -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 8:05:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I'm afraid it even gets a little scarier, Lady E. He may have found some of his victims on Alt.com. Here's an article about his Alt profile, which is no longer up.




~Gen. Question~

Does this open the door to the possibility; even the brightest of us can be fooled, or would it simply imply; the people he got his hands on were ‘idiots’ to the game of dating?

Kim




Musicmystery -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 8:57:52 AM)

Wow. Faulkner's "A Rose for Emily" comes to life (the characters sneak onto the grounds and spread lime around the house to combat the smell, but do nothing else).




servantforuse -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 8:59:41 AM)

I'm just glad that it didn't happen in Milwaukee this time.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 9:36:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

quote:

Police said they discovered the remains of four more people at the house of Anthony Sowell, a convicted rapist, in Cleveland Ohio, after the bodies of six women were unearthed there last week.

Detectives said the latest four bodies were found in the back yard which is still being excavated. A skull was also found wrapped in a paper bag in a bucket in the basement.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6497493/Police-find-four-more-bodies-at-home-of-suspected-serial-killer.html

CBS mentioned that neighbors complained for years about the smell, but not much was really done.


The incredible parts are that neighbors complained of the smell of "dead bodies" for years! Using those specific words. Wouldn't one think that the first time someone came up missing and a complaint of that smell came through it would be investigated a little deeper? Instead a food processing plant in the area overhauled twice because the onus was attributed to them.

Even more incredible he's on parole and home visits were made. How did those that visited never smell anything even if they never entered the premises???? I think that kind of tells us that home visits weren't being made at all.

I read this same article, they're now saying that some of those 10 bodies may go back years. Same thing with Gacy in Chicago. Same thing with in Milwaukee. Sigh.




DarkSteven -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 9:53:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I'm afraid it even gets a little scarier, Lady E. He may have found some of his victims on Alt.com. Here's an article about his Alt profile, which is no longer up.




~Gen. Question~

Does this open the door to the possibility; even the brightest of us can be fooled, or would it simply imply; the people he got his hands on were ‘idiots’ to the game of dating?

Kim


The article says that he checked off no fetish interests, and had a misspelled and crude profile.

They were idiots.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 10:22:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I'm afraid it even gets a little scarier, Lady E. He may have found some of his victims on Alt.com. Here's an article about his Alt profile, which is no longer up.




~Gen. Question~

Does this open the door to the possibility; even the brightest of us can be fooled, or would it simply imply; the people he got his hands on were ‘idiots’ to the game of dating?

Kim


The article says that he checked off no fetish interests, and had a misspelled and crude profile.

They were idiots.



Not being snarky or bitchy but...

While they may have been idiots does this mean they somehow deserved to be killed? They also believe that at least one of the bodies is that of a woman from his neighborhood.

His having an alt profile will only feed the public views of the BDSM community as being unsafe and vilifying the lifestyle yet again. Just once I would love to see a story about a hero mentioning they had a profile on an alternative lifestyle site. Never going to happen though.




subrob1967 -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 10:27:46 AM)

Cleveland tourist video




DarkSteven -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:00:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

Not being snarky or bitchy but...

While they may have been idiots does this mean they somehow deserved to be killed? They also believe that at least one of the bodies is that of a woman from his neighborhood.

His having an alt profile will only feed the public views of the BDSM community as being unsafe and vilifying the lifestyle yet again. Just once I would love to see a story about a hero mentioning they had a profile on an alternative lifestyle site. Never going to happen though.



I in no way intended to imply that anyone deserved to be killed.  I was simply responding to Kim's question about whether his victims were bright people fooled by a brilliant man, or idiots fooled by a dolt.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:09:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

Not being snarky or bitchy but...

While they may have been idiots does this mean they somehow deserved to be killed? They also believe that at least one of the bodies is that of a woman from his neighborhood.

His having an alt profile will only feed the public views of the BDSM community as being unsafe and vilifying the lifestyle yet again. Just once I would love to see a story about a hero mentioning they had a profile on an alternative lifestyle site. Never going to happen though.



I in no way intended to imply that anyone deserved to be killed.  I was simply responding to Kim's question about whether his victims were bright people fooled by a brilliant man, or idiots fooled by a dolt.



Ahhh, so I guess even brilliant people can be a little stupid sometimes. LOL Obviously I read too quickly and jumped. My apologies.

I think of it more as someone who took advantage of a situation and used it to his advantage. Which makes neither of the subjects brilliant, idiots, bright or dolts. Simply very sad.




DemonKia -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:12:46 PM)

As to the smell thing, the article states there was a sausage factory in the neighborhood.




Termyn8or -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:14:02 PM)

I think as of yesterday the body count is up to twelve. They are searching abandoned builings in the area for more. They have no idea how long this guy has been at it.

Suffice it to say this is not the ideal way to get Cleveland back on the map.

T




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:21:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I think as of yesterday the body count is up to twelve. They are searching abandoned builings in the area for more. They have no idea how long this guy has been at it.

Suffice it to say this is not the ideal way to get Cleveland back on the map.

T


The Browns had their chance to seize the center stage, and they dropped the ball. I guess that just leaves sausage factories and serial killers as Cleveland's claim to fame.




Jill805 -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:25:15 PM)

As to the smell thing, the article states there was a sausage factory in the neighborhood - DemonKia

WTF - Just what are they putting into sausages these days!   




DemonKia -> RE: Cleveland horror show (11/4/2009 12:28:33 PM)

Well, he was in prison for a period of time (from the link provided, above, about his having an Alt account):

Sowell appeared to have setup his Alt.com profile in July 2005, only one month after his release from a 15-year prison term for choking and raping a 21-year-old woman, who, police say, was lured to his bedroom in 1989.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I think as of yesterday the body count is up to twelve. They are searching abandoned builings in the area for more. They have no idea how long this guy has been at it.

Suffice it to say this is not the ideal way to get Cleveland back on the map.

T




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