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ORIGINAL: leadership527

*chuckles* Bad news for you there porcelaine. It seems to me that there's a fairly strong mystical element among the BDSM'ers. I see no reason why any particular brand of mysticism ought to be excluded. It's kind of like south park I think... nobody gets out unscathed.

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Amongst my many and varied friends and associates, I've hear Obeah referred to in a similar context as Santera and other practices loosely grouped as Voodoo or Voudun from the West Indies and specifically Haiti. I'm pretty much on the outside looking in here but am treated with respect as much due to my respect for the secrecy of such practices and my own knowledge and practices of Western rites. If Neets and I decide to leave Aussie, one of the options we are seriously looking at is moving to the BVI (British Virgin Islands) if so I will definitely be looking at learning all I can about such religions and practices. 

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

It's a very interesting religion, but as you say, there's a lot of secrecy and you get the impression that a lot of what's been written is the result of researchers being fed a line of crap that amused somebody. The fact that the workings are an integral part of the religious ceremonies instead of being something completely separate always hugely impresses me. I love that.

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Amongst my many and varied friends and associates, I've hear Obeah referred to in a similar context as Santera and other practices loosely grouped as Voodoo or Voudun from the West Indies and specifically Haiti. I'm pretty much on the outside looking in here but am treated with respect as much due to my respect for the secrecy of such practices and my own knowledge and practices of Western rites. If Neets and I decide to leave Aussie, one of the options we are seriously looking at is moving to the BVI (British Virgin Islands) if so I will definitely be looking at learning all I can about such religions and practices. 

they are all african traditional religions. but the differences are vast. as you move up the scale it does get darker and there are two paths in some practices, like vodoun. the latter term generally refers to the the haitian style. voodoo has its roots in new orleans. it isn't uncommon for those that follow it there to use this and hoodoo as well. different but complimentary paths. santeria utilizes Orisha's and the santos - catholic saints. that is how the religion was hidden.

as for what can be learned, much of what you read is incorrect and information has been intentionally left out. you'd have to find a house that would be willing to teach you. perhaps overseas the attitude is different than here in the states. there's also the money component. be prepared to spend quite a lot. these religions don't come cheap. although my curiosity is piqued about your desire to learn. is it for education's sake?

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: UmbraDomina

#2 - a bdsm related black supremacy group that does not allow black submissives or white dominants, was formed as early as the late 60's and is still active today.

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I am well used to the secrecy surrounding these traditions and yes I agree that most of what is written is either wrong or just barely scratches the surface.

My desire is both educational so that I may understand such things better. The few Practitioners/Initiates I do know have commented that I would find much to complement what I already do albeit from a ritual area rather then a spiritual one which will as I understand them not clash with my own beliefs and practices anyway, both working with the earth and nature. Were we to live in the British Virgin Islands, it is not half a world away from Haiti (I have a deep love of the Haitian Voodoo Drum music when I can get it. It calls to me at a very primal level), and by that time I would have retired as Grand Master of a Hermetic Lodge and be free of obligations to that body other than my vows of secrecy and thus if I wish am free to explore other paths. Money of course would not be any object as far as the costs of training were I lucky to be accepted.

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ORIGINAL: Missvparis

I see that this subject generate lots of answers
the sub I was talking to send me the "contract " or what's seems to be
if interested just I can send it to you

have a good day