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DemonKia -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/24/2009 11:39:35 AM)

Porcelaine, you brought up something (bolded in the quote, below) I've had a thought about, maybe worth sharing . . . .

I was feeling very not-listened-to, some years ago. & I was alarmed at how I was reacting to this by getting more strident & loud & obnoxious & etc. & for a separate reason I started listening to myself rather intensely. & the more I 'heard' myself the more I felt 'listened to', & the less I needed others outside of myself to 'hear' me . . . . . Epiphanic.

Since then I've made a habit of writing out stuff I feel needs to be 'heard' & reading thru it repeatedly. Most especially, setting it aside & reading it at later points in time when I'm in different frames of mind. & I've found that the more thoroughly I listen to myself the more 'heard' I feel & I have thus greatly reduced my 'need' to 'make' others 'hear' me . . . . .

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

perhaps this is a distraction or merely isn't filling the void you'd hoped it would. your continued participation regardless of real time interruptions, relationships, etc. would be testament of a sincere desire to be part of an online community of this nature. it is commonplace to take a hiatus when warranted or necessary, but people usually return when their period of isolation is behind them.

only you know what brings you here and what is taking you away. the lack of friendships is by your own making. if you wanted to have real connections you'd allow them to occur and extend yourself in this way. what i glean from everything that is said and not said is that in this moment you sincerely wish to be heard. rather than focus on what you're not receiving, you may wish to ask others what you can do to have the very thing you seek.

porcelaine





SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/24/2009 12:12:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule
It did not help that he did not know what he was talking about.
He could not even define God / god. Nor did he deign to respond to my reasonable definition of the Divine being my pillow.

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ORIGINAL: Rule
Well, I did and do respect him.


Strikes me that I would not respect someone that didn't know what they were talking about.

He was very knowledgeable as are most here but sadly most people seem to like subjugating their own ideas for those written by a stranger in a book. If I want to know the definition of this or that or understand the point of view of a common atheist I would perhaps rather read a book directly by such an author rather than a third party tell me their ideas are right because they coincide with this author.




Acer49 -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/24/2009 2:33:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Esinn

It is funny. I am going back to school, back to the gym, back to work and playing world of warcraft on a full time basis. I am also trying to learn more about piercings. Another avenue I am pursuing is becoming s certified sex/life counselor. I am not too busy to post here like I used to, I just do not. I was really into 3 gals here too. They all seemed like amazing women, I do not think we typed about getting laid either or meet ups - they were just good people.

I have also noticed myself getting more involved with off line issues relevant to non-theism as I truly believe nothing can be accomplished here.

A lot of people agreed and disagreed with what I said. Onlt here for a few months it I pushed it seems my topics could have went on for ages. I always feel compelled to be here but dedicate time to other useless hobbies. I think about the people I talked with..... I had no friends so no one to miss really.

I wonder is the nature of all forums? People are fairly active for a few months then change direction? Not really because of time or lack of it. Just for other reasons - hmmm


-Tony S
Indy, Indiana

TTYAL I am sure one day. As I still always feel compelled to be as active as I once was.


Ultimately, there are only so many topics that are covered, people ask those questions and leave. New people come in and ask the same questions as the ones before them, so if you live on this board as some do, it does get repetitive at times




Rule -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/24/2009 4:42:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Strikes me that I would not respect someone that didn't know what they were talking about.

He was honest and motivated. I respect that.

I was far more of an atheist than he was when I was younger. I thought then that all religious people were crazy, just as he apparently does.

I have grown a lot since then.

I guess that he was psychologically harmed by the weird religious people in the USA. I myself grew up in an atheist family and we never bothered with religion, and except for the Jehova's we were never bothered by religious people. My siblings went to Sunday school, but I didn't.




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/24/2009 9:32:47 PM)

look, he's not a athiest (or even a proper agnostic by the non-current use of the term), he's just unhappy with the deal structure of EXTANT Creeds and mistakes a creed for a RELIGION (the 2 are not mutually inclusive.  IN fact, more than one Christian-based - faith is ANTI establishment, and if E-sinn spent 10% of his time finding one of these - listed in EVERY available dictionary, by the way - he'd be a much happier wannabe-be-tatt-pseudo-pop-culture-god).




Termyn8or -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/25/2009 12:13:14 AM)

Notice that the OP has not revisited this thread with a response.

T




DrkJourney -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/25/2009 12:26:53 AM)

hmmmm...really?

I got married in May...met mine here...oh well, guess you know best




DesFIP -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/25/2009 9:18:54 AM)

The op had a nasty habit of attacking people. So his complaints of not having any friends are caused by his own making. He caused it, only he can cure it. But of course it's easier to go someplace else with the same attitude hoping for a different result than to actually do something about his own problems.




sirsholly -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/25/2009 9:33:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The op had a nasty habit of attacking people. So his complaints of not having any friends are caused by his own making. He caused it, only he can cure it. But of course it's easier to go someplace else with the same attitude hoping for a different result than to actually do something about his own problems.
so true. But in the same way a mad man cannot see his insanity, someone that creates difficulty for himself will blame others. Sad...especially when he will end up at the end of his life all alone.




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/25/2009 8:38:25 PM)

" --- he will end up at the end of his life all alone."


without any HAWWWWWWT chick in go go boots or thigh-highs.  by his bedside.





SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/27/2009 10:11:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly
Sad...especially when he will end up at the end of his life all alone.

People do say that don’t they?
I think everyone is ultimately alone since we can't guarantee how long anyone we know will live for, we can also be surrounded by people but alone since the people surrounding us may be incapable of understanding us the way we assume they do. Also being alone at the end of your life is probably not really much worse than being alone at any other point in your life. I'd guess being alone at the end of your life is better because you don't have to worry about those you leave behind.




kdsub -> RE: Compelled to be here - musings of a mad man (10/27/2009 10:21:04 AM)

How can that be true...after all he is going to be a sex/life counselor… certifiable at that.

Butch




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