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Life=risk - 10/4/2009 9:19:06 AM   
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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 10:24:38 AM   
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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 1:01:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjYoKCBYag
I'm lovin' it..everybody needs a little motivation from time to time


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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 3:00:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Edison after another unsuccessful attempt to make a working light bulb, "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that do not work".

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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 4:43:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjYoKCBYag
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This is an outlier fallacy.


Yes, all of these people suffered setbacks and kept trying, and eventually won. But that doesn't mean YOU will.

All it means is that if 10,000 people each believe they can Be Somebody!, then statistically, one of them will out of sheer dumb luck. And then the other 9,999 become worthless, hollowed-out shells of people, fit only to be mocked and scorned by society - but that one that makes it inspires 10,000 out of the next generation, and the whole process cycles through again.

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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 4:52:52 PM   
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... All it means is that if 10,000 people each believe they can Be Somebody!, then statistically, one of them will out of sheer dumb luck. And then the other 9,999 become worthless, hollowed-out shells of people, fit only to be mocked and scorned by society - but that one that makes it inspires 10,000 out of the next generation, and the whole process cycles through again.


Wow!

Words escape me on this view of the world.



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RE: Life=risk - 10/4/2009 5:05:31 PM   
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Words escape me on this view of the world.


Not me! Let's talk about Thomas Edison, first.

Did you know Nicolai Tesla died penniless and alone?

Now, what did Edison have that Tesla didn't?

And even Tesla we still worship. There's THOUSANDS of people we don't even HEAR about.


We worship and admire success. We ignore the strewn wreckage of failure that they separate themselves from, because that shit's just depressing.

This is something I try to explain to all the post-apocalyptic Ayn Rand-hardon types that start playing Internet Tough Guy:

"You keep envisioning this awesome post-apocalyptic wasteland, but what you have to understand is that you aren't Mad Max. You're part of the pyramid of skulls in the background."

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RE: Life=risk - 10/5/2009 1:05:00 PM   
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RE: Life=risk - 10/5/2009 1:11:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth
Not me! Let's talk about Thomas Edison, first.
Did you know Nicolai Tesla died penniless and alone?
Now, what did Edison have that Tesla didn't?


A large an unending defamatory PR machine.

Ron

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RE: Life=risk - 10/5/2009 6:43:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth
Not me! Let's talk about Thomas Edison, first.
Did you know Nicolai Tesla died penniless and alone?
Now, what did Edison have that Tesla didn't?


A large an unending defamatory PR machine.


Which, incidentally, is also what several other successful anomalies - Walt Disney, Bill Gates, L Ron Hubbard, etc. - had in common.

The lesson is, if you want to get ahead, you have to make sure that anyone else in your league falls behind. Be ruthless, and ensure that no one but you can win, and you increase the chances that you win.

What a world.

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RE: Life=risk - 10/5/2009 9:05:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		    Hitler enjoyed success for a time period , somehow You don't seem to get the moral of the story !  Sad

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RE: Life=risk - 10/5/2009 9:21:46 PM   
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    Hitler enjoyed success for a time period , somehow You don't seem to get the moral of the story !  Sad


Yes, he did, as did Stalin. The question of who was right, in the end, was decided with bombs and bullets - not with words.

What "moral" is there to learn from anything?

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