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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 4:01:07 AM

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I dont see how him asking me to make him a drink is rude....

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When she explained what she was making it sounded good so I said "Sounds good make me one too."
Could she have refused? I would have expressed my disapointment in terms appropriate to her station in my life.

He didn’t ask; I don't see a question mark there--rude!
He believes he is entitled to service from a stranger---rude!
He believes he is entitled to chide a stranger if she disappoints him---rude!
He believes he is entitled to assign a stranger a ‘station’ in his life without consent---rude!

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 4:14:34 AM

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Exactly how I see it catize. I will go further and say I would find it harassment and complain to the store personnel about him. It just feels creepy to me to have some strange man act in that manner.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 4:31:16 AM

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Do you as a Master, dom or vanilla treat your girls different according to their choice of vanilla ,sub and slave?
Do you as a Vanilla ,sub or slave treat men different according to their choice of calling?

I treat people as people...nothing more, nothing less. Unless....we have a pre-existing agreement as to the dynamics of our relationship. If I meet a man who identifies as submissive, until we have an understanding of how we'll relate to each other, he's just a man I've met. The same goes for a man who identifies as dominant.
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The other night at the fast stop while checking out I was talking with a girl making a drink at the fountain. When she explained what she was making it sounded good so I said "Sounds good make me one too."
A vanilla gf would have taken that as a question with a option "Sounds good make me one too?"
A sub would have taken that as a request "sounds good make me one too" and thought to herself this will please someone so I will do it to make him happy.
A Slave would have heard "sounds good make me one too" and immediatly thought I have a task to do.

But my thought was the same, in any case, it sounded good and I expected her to make me one , yes even though she was a vanilla who wasnt even my Gf.

She made it too.

Could she have refused? Sure ANY of them could have. My behavior then would have stayed consistant. I would have expressed my disapointment in terms appropriate to her station in my life. Yes each would have gotten a different responce but MY behaivior would stay the same.

You know what they say about not assuming....
Why do you feel you have the right to expect this person to do anything for you simply because you want it? What do you mean by "Appropriate to her station in my life"? It appears in this example the woman (not girl...not your girl...right?) was a stranger serving herself, not you. What "station" would that be?

I would have handed you a cup and told you to go for it. Strangers are just that...people not part of any agreed upon dynamic.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 4:29:34 PM

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Exactly how I see it catize. I will go further and say I would find it harassment and complain to the store personnel about him. It just feels creepy to me to have some strange man act in that manner.

One does wonder of he treats men in the same manner! Somehow I doubt it! So, not just creepy but sexist, too.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 4:51:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: catize

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I dont see how him asking me to make him a drink is rude....

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When she explained what she was making it sounded good so I said "Sounds good make me one too."
Could she have refused? I would have expressed my disapointment in terms appropriate to her station in my life.

He didn’t ask; I don't see a question mark there--rude!
He believes he is entitled to service from a stranger---rude!
He believes he is entitled to chide a stranger if she disappoints him---rude!
He believes he is entitled to assign a stranger a ‘station’ in his life without consent---rude!

Yes you can infer that from the way he TYPED what he said to her, and his internal thinking behind it, which he also let us know.

So, can you then read someones mind if the bare bones of this situation happened to you? If say some tall good looking man smiled at you and said "hey that looks good, make me one too." note I put a period there and not a question mark, for the simple fact, that hey maybe he did not raise the octive of his voice a bit so it sounds like a question....for all we know he could raise that left eyebrow in a quizical manner, or do anything else to make it SEEM like a question...

get my point?

That girl at the drink stand will never know what he thought of her or his internal thinking. All she knew was he commented about the her personal choice in drinks, and then convayed his wish of having the same drink, and she complied.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/1/2009 5:31:47 PM

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I have no comment or opinion on the woman’s actions. I assume she had no clue regarding his presumptive dominance over her, but that is irrelevant. We do know because, as you pointed out, he told us.
My response is not conjecture; it is a negative opinion about his mind set as he described it.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/3/2009 8:04:09 PM

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Sunnyfey, if it had been a question, a sort of pick up line, an opener to conversation then he would not assume he had the right to chastise her for disappointing him. That's what says to us that this wasn't a pleasant and friendly interaction as you represent.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/3/2009 8:48:11 PM

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I don't think he meant that a complete stranger had a "station in his life," just that he would react differently toward her turning him down than he would if she were his submissive or his slave.

FM69, I asked my Master/boyfriend something similar, while we were still casually dating. I wanted to know what his expectations were of a slave compared to a submissive, in mindset, behaviour, punishment, and other areas. I needed to know what I was agreeing to *before* making that commitment.

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RE: Different Treatments? - 10/13/2009 6:21:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: CarrieO

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ORIGINAL: fantasy69maker
Do you as a Master, dom or vanilla treat your girls different according to their choice of vanilla ,sub and slave?
Do you as a Vanilla ,sub or slave treat men different according to their choice of calling?

I treat people as people...nothing more, nothing less. Unless....we have a pre-existing agreement as to the dynamics of our relationship. If I meet a man who identifies as submissive, until we have an understanding of how we'll relate to each other, he's just a man I've met. The same goes for a man who identifies as dominant.
MasterLordDomlyDom will be treated the same as any person.

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The other night at the fast stop while checking out I was talking with a girl making a drink at the fountain. When she explained what she was making it sounded good so I said "Sounds good make me one too."
A vanilla gf would have taken that as a question with a option "Sounds good make me one too?"
A sub would have taken that as a request "sounds good make me one too" and thought to herself this will please someone so I will do it to make him happy.
A Slave would have heard "sounds good make me one too" and immediatly thought I have a task to do.

But my thought was the same, in any case, it sounded good and I expected her to make me one , yes even though she was a vanilla who wasnt even my Gf.

She made it too.

Could she have refused? Sure ANY of them could have. My behavior then would have stayed consistant. I would have expressed my disapointment in terms appropriate to her station in my life. Yes each would have gotten a different responce but MY behaivior would stay the same.

You know what they say about not assuming....
Why do you feel you have the right to expect this person to do anything for you simply because you want it? What do you mean by "Appropriate to her station in my life"? It appears in this example the woman (not girl...not your girl...right?) was a stranger serving herself, not you. What "station" would that be?

I would have handed you a cup and told you to go for it. Strangers are just that...people not part of any agreed upon dynamic.

Why do I feel entitiled to ask for something? Because I am . Its that simple. Can I DEMAND? Yep I can do that too. Can They ignore me? LOL OF COURSE!
As for what I ment as her appropriate station in my life? Obviously since I have no hold over her, its casual meeting type of relationship. Had she refused obviously the most that I could have reasonabley done was express my disapointment and got my own , that of course would be a compliment on HER taste.

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