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lronitulstahp -> Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 4:12:00 AM)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090827/lf_nm_life/us_workplace_bosses

And to think....i thought i was the only one. i have recently gone back to work, after an injury and requisite surgery had me on Worker's comp. for the summer. If it weren't for the economic impact, i would have put in my notice the day i went back.(it was THAT bad!)

The company for which i work is understaffed, overworked, and downright stressfull. Several of the higher ups and executives, feeling the pressure, are having quite a field day trying to find someone to kick around. But today, the way things are, turnover is at a record low. (even with quite a few layoffs) The recession requires me to stay in a job i no longer like because of the scarcity of jobs available.

How many of you are just biding your time in a workplace that has become "toxic", planning on making a run as soon as things pick up with the economy? Any workplace horror stories....anyone need to just vent? Anyone have a boss that they wish could disappear a la Jimmy Hoffa? Anyone have a positive outlook on things...a happy ending from similar situations, perhaps? Let's post, rather than go postal....

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Unable to make a move when jobs are scarce and some 14.5 million workers are unemployed, many employees feel trapped and are seeking ways to cope, experts say.


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 The unemployed people we know who really can't find jobs are actually happier than the people that are employed because it's so difficult right now




Musicmystery -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 8:16:32 AM)

Interesting add...divorces are down, as economically strapped couples agree to live unhappily as roommates as they can't afford to sell the house in this market.




GreedyTop -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 8:19:50 AM)

I love my job, usually.  MY boss drives me batshit.  I'd love to take a second job, but there just ISNT anything around here that I qualify for.






Arpig -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 8:51:27 AM)

I hate my job. It is poorly paid, it is boring as hell, it sucks the soul right out of you because you are effectively just a machine, you spend your day annoying people, the supervisors pace the floor like prison guards to make sure nobody is even doodling while making calls, there is a daily quota of completed surveys one must make, if you don't make the quota you are in trouble but if you exceed the quota there is no benefit, the bosses are never seen and they blatantly don't give a shit about the workers...they have even started trying to prevent people from going to the washroom except on their breaks. On the bright side I am volunteering at a place that refurbishes computers for poor people and am loving it, I hope to parlay that into a job soon...wish me luck.




SteelofUtah -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 8:59:17 AM)

My Job is Economy Driven. When People are Building homes we are Flush and in the Black, when the economy tanks we need to make ends meet on service and the Bosses get annoying.

No one wants to stand up and do more than they have to. Me, who is willing to do more am told it's not my job, yet them not doing their job seriously affects my ability to do my job. I am responsible for every job that comes in and goes out of this office as far as Paperwork and Payment processing goes, if I slack on my job we lose SERIOUS Money, and yet I am also at the BOTTOM of the Totem Pole.

I am dealing with the fact that someone who is in the office maybe 3 days every two weeks is supposed to me my direct supervisor, because they are not there I deal directly with the Owner and they two of them do not always agree (They are Married) and so I am often being told to do the same thing two different ways and depending on who reviews it it will always be wrong one way or the other.

Getting everyone on the same page will NEVER happen because everyone is afraid to give someone a "Shit or get off the Pot" Lecture so I am basically the Catch all for the shit that rolls down hill.

I LOVE what I do I just dislike who I am doing it for, but right now people are trying to get away with paying Office Managers Less and get more work out of them so most of the companies that I have contacted want me to do more than I am here for less.

That is what life is like right now.

Steel




Mercnbeth -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 9:07:32 AM)

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Anyone have a positive outlook on things...


this slave absolutely ADORES her job!!!
 
the boss is OMGsexy and an absolute joy to please...even though the hours are long, the reward is priceless!!![:)]




popeye1250 -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 9:26:50 AM)

Funny, the people who makes millions a year for fucking up think you are all "overpaid" at $50-$100k per year.
And unless you get a degree in some type of medicine or a few other fields you're just wasting your money.
If I were to take out an ad for 100 house painters I'd get people applying with degrees in psychology, sociology, political science and a bunch of other types of degrees. I call those "waitress degrees" as all the waitresses seem to have one or more of those degrees these days and a $600-$900 per month student loan payment for the next 15-20 years.
These days the waitress without a degree is better off financially as she can take that $600-$900 and invest it in a few mutual funds every month and hopefully in 15-20 years have a sizable fortune.
I keep wondering when people in this country are going to finally wake up and realise that this "global economy" crap needs to go.
Everytime they ship 100,000 blue collar jobs overseas they also get rid of 30-40,000 white collar jobs and all the ancilliary jobs that go with them.
Until we *demand* that our govt. get us out of all the outsourcing deals disguised as "free trade deals" nothing will get better and the obscenely rich will become even more so.
We have a seperation of church and state in this country, we *need* to have a seperation of big business and state!
I'd like to see a "movement" in this direction and soon!
They could have a logo of a guillotine on their literature and flags.




littlewonder -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 10:59:50 AM)

I'm one of those stuck in a job she hates. I'm just waiting it out till I find something that pays better and I'm not constantly waking up every morning dreading going back. I keep reminding myself that it's not forever. I won't allow it to be forever. Eventually something's gotta change.




Musicmystery -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 12:11:07 PM)

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We have a seperation of church and state in this country, we *need* to have a seperation of big business and state!


I'm with you there, but wonder how it could be accomplished.

This was Teddy Roosevelt's goal, but a century later, we have Enron.




Vendaval -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 2:43:02 PM)

You gotta hustle in a recession. I am working 2 part time jobs and no benefits right now. Last employer before this closed shop in November. One of the owners is now a cashier at a local car dealership. They were cheated by another business that refused to pay them. [&:]




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 4:00:57 PM)

~FR~

I am taking smaller jobs and going back to much of what I started with. I cannot be as picky with my clients, but I still refuse to accept bad behavior (cussing, yelling, etc.) towards me. I have actually added two more software packages to my stable of products I consult for, as well as I am doing sales for come of the contract work I do.

It is not what I would be wanting to do at this point, but I do what I need to do to survive.




Musicmystery -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 4:33:25 PM)

~FR~

It's interesting that U.S. savings is now averaging 4% of income--up from zero before the recession. Seems backwards from what common sense planning would dictate, but then, we've long been a nation of short term thinkers, reacting instead of looking ahead, squandering better times rather than setting aside for the down cycles.




Slavehandsome -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 4:38:42 PM)

"Economy Forces Downturn Of Military Spending"




DomImus -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 5:24:33 PM)

I do genuinely enjoy the work that I do. I am not always enamored with my employer (the company) but that has been the case in the previous three jobs I have had in the past thirty years and I didn't enjoy the work as much in those places. We've had a lot of attrition through retirement lately so those of us still here are in good shape and not in jeopardy of layoffs even in this soft economy. In their defense, the company does mostly realize that one man can only do 8 man hours of work in 8 hours and doesn't continually try to dump more more more on us. They're just riding it out till things improve. Some things are sitting on the back burner that are going to become front burner issues eventually but that will be management's problem when that time comes. We're still plenty busy so all in all life is good.






DarkSteven -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 5:41:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

It's interesting that U.S. savings is now averaging 4% of income--up from zero before the recession.


Not a surprise at all.  Prior to the downturn, you had people with negative savings - they tapped into home equity to finance their lifestyle  Those people counterbalanced the savers and the result was net zero. 

Now the savers are still saving and nobody is tapping into home equity for spending money.




NeedToUseYou -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 6:06:15 PM)

My advice to those with the willingness to learn, and the fortitude to accept failures is start learning how to build websites. By that I don't mean a blog, I mean how to program in the language of your choice, if I were to start over or dive into another it would be python, because of google app engine.  My problems going forward would not exist if I were on an autoscaling platform like that. Though scaling is manageable even in the current form.

Anyway, pretty much last December I started making progress in my efforts in that regard. You probably won't get rich overnight, but from the websites I own now, and have made, and populated, This month they are going to pull in about 2200.00 a month, cost of operation is about 100.00. 2200.00 is not a lot, however, that would continue producing even if I died tonight. All effort is to grow that. Last month made 1575 month before around 1200, month before around 900.00. Essentially its growing rather quickly by my standards. I hope to be about 6000.00 a month next year. We(me and business partner) still at present bring in money by rent, and the other business, but the hope is to eventually produce enough from the internet empire [:)], to allow me to  travel for a few years, as I can do the internet thing literally anywhere a internet connection exists. I think that will become feasible in less than a year, hopefully, no more than two.

The thing is with internet websites is you will make a site you are sure will make you money and it won't(couple months trashed, but you generally learn something so not complete waste), but you just keep testing new ideas and one works, then you find another. Etc....

You have to learn a programming language though. Money is not really a factor as a hindrance to entry, as it really only costs like 10.00 a month to start, plus 10.00 a year for a domain name. And lots of time and learning. The only reason my costs are a 100.00 a month is because its a dedicated server now, and I got the costs down to that because of a 25 percent off promotion, which I pay semi-annually to lock in the deal. (cheap).

Anyway, just telling people what is working for me, as I'm not worried about competition, as there are literally dozens of sites I've thought of and will eventually build I'm sure most will make okay money, the web is such an unorganized mess, there is really opportunity everywhere. It takes time though, patience, and willingness to fail repeatedly. I'm only at 2200, but see no reason that won't keep growing every month, because I literally add, stuff 6 out of  7 days at least, and see no reason to stop.


So, business start up cost:20.00 (domain name, shared host to start).
Time Cost:Months to get going in a real way.
Income Potential:0-billions.

So, if someone is unemployed, or whatever, there is no excuse, it really is your own decision to stay in a subservient position to the whims of employers.  Literally it will take in my opinion 3 years or less for someone of average intelligence with a good work ethic, willingness to try and fail, to give themselves a decent middle class income, untied to any location or direct employer.

To clarify, my other business is selling on ebay and small amount of rent income, what I'm talking about above is not selling anything, rather building informative useful sites in areas lacking such. It's all ad revenue.





Irishknight -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/27/2009 8:42:39 PM)

Some days I hate my job but it is steady employment. As long as there are bad parents who inflict horrible things upon their children and kids who are just batshit crazy, I will have a job. I wish that my type of job was laying off workers. Less parents mistreating kids and less kids that are nucking futs would be worth me going on unemployment.




barelynangel -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/28/2009 5:37:45 AM)

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this slave absolutely ADORES her job!!!

the boss is OMGsexy and an absolute joy to please...even though the hours are long, the reward is priceless!!!


laughs, Beth that was just wrong! lol.




Termyn8or -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/28/2009 7:58:36 AM)

FR

As the holder of a damnear bulletproof job I can tell you, I feel the crunch as well. Although they are not too pushy about it, performance is stressed, and I know because I have been on both sides of the big desk, production is essential.

I also know that for years US workers have not been working to full potential, but that has now gone overboard. When you have Phds applying for jobs at McD's something is wrong.

T




awmslave -> RE: Economy leaves some U.S. workers stuck in bad jobs (8/28/2009 8:33:03 PM)

This piece of journalism fits into the pattern how the current recession is portrayed by most media; a temporary  inconvenience as opposed to serious matter.  What about tens of millions with no jobs?




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